2004  July to December

Date: Fri Dec 31 20:49
SeanT (Punk's Not Dead):

Happy New Year everyone , love Sean.

Date: Fri Dec 31 19:10
Alan (bouncing baby ):

boy... Shea Everett... 7lbs 15.25oz... 12/30/04... !!!

Date: Fri Dec 31 16:51
thin (scrolling indefinitum):

yip, now time ponder in its ponderings, been good readin nice best of lists, ta muchi, must add some of beethovens piano groovy stuff into that mix I think and some chet baker and sidney bechet blowing, aged but well aged. bigug to ya all.the thin thinkings and mussings of a new year beatniccc. sage venue look sweet.

Date: Fri Dec 31 10:56
Flynn (Thanks):

Thanks for the info, Lars.

Date: Fri Dec 31 06:13
Lars (Scrolling for Flynn):

Yeah, I guess that was a call for me, eh guys? ;-D ### As of yet Under Byen has not been released in the US. I think it was about to happen through The Orchard (.com) a year ago or so, but fell through. So in 2004 it's been released in several European countries outside Denmark. So yes, you'll have to go the import route. ;-) Plenty of people doing that these days to get Under Byen. You can find som shopping suggestions at these two: http://www.larsdideriksen.com/underbyen/discography.htm AND http://www.larsdideriksen.com/underbyen/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14 (check all three pages on the forum thread) ### I know of an Australian who recently got good and prompt service from the Danish shop www.cdskiven.dk (there's an information page in English on the site). www.theothermusic.com is a Danish shop with an English site. Got lots of cool stuff. At www.gemm.com there are also people selling Under Byen. ### If you would like to hear more right now the entire second album is streamed in high quality here: http://www.cuttingedge.be/downloads/underbyen_determig.html ### And live shows streamed (also Giant Sand and Calexico there): http://3voor12.vpro.nl/3voor12/groups/index.jsp?groups=16057467 (I would suggest the Eurosonic show - it's by far the best of the two). ### And if you're into downloading bit-torrents www.easytree.org would be a good place to visit. ;-) ### Right, that's all for now. I hope it was helpful. Happy hunting! AND HAPPY NEW YEAR GREETS FROM ÅRHUS, SANDIES!!! / Lars

Date: Thu Dec 30 23:22
great movie (Garden State):

The best thing since (Amelie)You will see!

Date: Thu Dec 30 21:54
Flynn (Under Byen):

I checked out the Under Byen mp3s on their website and would like to hear more. Can't find any US stores/ websites selling their CDs, though. Does anybody know if they're available in the States or am I gonna have to go the import route? Oh, and Happy New Year, Sanditos!

Date: Thu Dec 30 14:13
t.g (Left actually #14 on Threadwaxing Space Live cd):

...just discovered this...

Date: Wed Dec 29 19:11
dj insight (Bill Janovitz - Lonesome Billy - '96):

very good to have this cd arrive today along w/ Low Max - Spitzbube. I know I'll be listening to these. Actually I already have. Howe is on both. A year after 1995's Giant Sand BBQ Broadcast...inbetween OP8 - Slush (1997). One uture upcomings go after this cd. Good and calm new year.

Date: Wed Dec 29 03:54
buxfix (join the sandman series but don't join now):

i can convince everyone to join the sandman series - it's so much fun to get in contact with other sandinistas but please do not subscribe for the very next days - i am working on a database to store all addresses - and geee it's a lot right now - will tell you, when everything works fine - and then gazelle join us... a happy new year to erveryone!

Date: Wed Dec 29 02:46
gazelle (gazelleiam@lycos.com):

heyyyyy everybody...a belated merry christmas to you all...how is tucson? how is denmark? how is howe? it has been raining in california, girl let me warn ya'...i want some more bootlegs. maybe i should join the tree. anyone want to convince me? i think there needs to be a tree for dummies or something. me pee brain no understand. does anyone here like to my space or friendster? it's a fun world (wide web). looking forward to new releases...mine is on the way

Date: Tue Dec 28 21:32
todd ('04 selections Wunderbar hofbrauhaus, AB. (Dec. 27/04)):

hey Alan...the new christams collection on Mint Records is very good. Calexico - Praskovia - '04...howe gelb - ogle '04...giant sand w/ Scout Niblett - remote...Sigmatropic - Haiku Ten - '04...AA Sound System - Stratochief - '04 - local Alberta - Los Monstros del Tucson Rock - That's what You Always Say - '04...Shuyler Jansen - Write your Will - '04 - Alberta local...Lampchop - Nothing adventurous Please - NoYoucmon - '04...10 second pause...Los Mocosos - Bandolera Era - American Us...Rich Hopkins & Luminarios - Soul Leecher (El Paso) - The Best and Worst - '04...fade out...Twin Fangs - mujer angel - Quelque Chose - '04...Unbunny - Water and the spanish Tongue (alt) - CWAS #16 - '04...Grandaddy - Nature Anthem - Below the radio - '04...Bebop Cortez - mustachio - the romantic panther commander - Alberta local - '04...Tom Waits - Real Gone - '04...Califone - trickbird - Heron King Blves - '04...Lampchop - being Tyler - Awcmon - '04...Jon Rauhouse's Steel Guitar Rodeo - Indian Love Call w/ Howe Gelb - '04...Jesse Sykes & the sweet hereafter - Troubled Soul - Oh my Girl - '04...Wendy McNeill - the sparrow - '04 - AB local...Richard Buckner - a chance counsel - dents & Shells - '04...Neko Case - Train from Kansas City - The Tigers have Spoken - '04...The Sadies - song of the Chief Musician - Favorite Colours - '04...Neko Case - if i'm gonna sink (I might As well go to the bottom) - Touch my Heart - A Tribute to Johnny Paycheck - '04...Jay Farrar - like a hurricane - Stone Steel & Bright Lights - '04

Date: Mon Dec 27 14:10
Alan (Lump of Coal or...):

Hey, a long time ago I got the X-mas collection "A Lump of Coal." It remains my favorite "rock"-ing Christmas collection... do any of you have other favorites/preferences? cold here... alan

Date: Mon Dec 27 09:03
Lars (gig?):

Giant Sand gig tonight at L'Estragon I am told?! Posted on a sign in front of the restaurant? 22.00 hours? And I'm far away on Zealand. What a bummer... :-( I hope you have fun, guys! (I have the feeling you will. Last time was a laugh). Greets! / Lars

Date: Mon Dec 27 07:42
Lars (Newz for ze Germanz...):

Just stumbled upon eight new soon-to-come live-dates for Under Byen in Germany and Austria (Köln, Frankfurt, Stuttgart, München, Wien, Dresden, Berlin and Hamburg) at this website: http://www.fkpscorpio.com/kuenstler.asp?nummer=107551 --- Thought that a least a few of you might find it interesting (and to you others: try checking them out... ;-) ). Best x-mas greets! / Lars

Date: Sun Dec 26 06:59
Jörg (Drunken Bees):

2004 is coming to an end now, and I wonder if the plans of releasing the 2004-anniversary-edition of the "Drunken Bees" - DVD (details at: http://amormusic.com/marianne/drunkenbees/db.html )are put to rest or if it's gonna come out next year? Anybody knows?

Date: Sat Dec 25 11:32
archivist (Al Perry at archive.org):

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays.. Just posted for you - Al Perry on KXCI from August of 97. Recorded on KXCI's 'The Tucson Musician's Showcase' radio program (later replaced with 'Locals Only'). Featuring a bunch of unreleased tracks, demos, live cuts, and a few live in the KXCI studios. This will be the first of a buch of great stuff from Al Perry to get posted for download at archive.org! Enjoy! http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=20787

Date: Fri Dec 24 16:30
Todd (Don't turn away / Christmas eve):

Fun this week I got a copy of GIANT SANDWORMS don't turn away 7", Steve Wynn - Kerosene Man, Los Monstros del Tucson Rock and The Best and The Worst of - Rich Hopkins & Luminarios. Love the cover art (1986) don't turn away 7" of some artist named Hugh James - 1939. Anyways I'm operating the Alberta public radio broadcaster tonight being Christmas eve and then boxing day. I'm making it home for the Christmas Day. Glad about alot of things especially Howe Gelb/Giant Sand & Old Reliable. What a treat to hear the 7" Soloman's Ride - Goin' to New Mexico (on the eve). I've also got the 7" Con Lo Mejor del Momento Polena & Seashells - Friends of Dean Martin(ez). Nice warm sound on these vinyls. Merry X-mas to you around the globe. On the local Alberta west went to a lovely show last night from Edmonton it was Shuyler Jansen's Hobotron and from Calgary Chad Van Gaalen.

Date: Fri Dec 24 09:36
The Distance (is getting closer):

Merry Xmas to all the sander's

Date: Fri Dec 24 09:14
- (-):

This is the very very best of this year: Giant Sand is back...all over the map....on tour again! Thank you, Howe!!!!

Date: Fri Dec 24 05:12
jesus (Xtmas):

Felices Fiestas to everybody!!!

Date: Thu Dec 23 04:54
mike (sa-wa-ro):

sadly, after reading your 'best of the years', i realise i did'nt get any new albums this year........ apart from the sadies 'colours' and a couple more that were given to me on tour. the best one i did receive was a great compilation for the tea room by young shaun hendry.... which get's played a lot. the only stuff i've got (through ebay) are older albums i didn't get first time around.... and there's a long list of those to get. i think i'll stay in the past, pick a good year and just keep living that one over again ala groundhog.... there's very little new in this world... happy christmas all...... see you on tour

Date: Wed Dec 22 19:01
2004 glue (best of bacon):

Nothing Engine ' Silent Song' Noose for luke 'What wrong with the speaker'EP Colin Hartley '4 song accoustic demo' Louis gordon and john foxx i forget giant sand in london and for laughs the bands called woo 'party at sams place' oh yes and the stutterkicks 'eight almost half past' just to remainse. also enjoyed chips with more salt. baiting the eupropeanas from eurpoa sitting on trains and getting engaged / enradged looking forwar to mared life. See you all on the flip side? so so wrong.

Date: Wed Dec 22 16:53
J (new year, schmoo year):

Map, year of the monkey, still listener and most of the rest. banharts both and all else I can find. ian brown 'solarised' and 'music of the spheres' kris kristofferson, anything I have liked. trojan retrospectives (the label) under byen freebies do the biz... hayden, american music club. waiting with baited breath for the newish kevin kinney. dylan/band-basement tapes. As you probably can tell, I'm not enamoured of 'lists' and yearly awards and stuff cos it's all always in flux. whatever, have a nice cold season people

Date: Tue Dec 21 17:27
From: pollyharvey.co.uk (Not True...):

NME have quoted Polly as saying that Paris was her last concert ever...!!! This was a mis-quote, what Polly actually said, at the show, was 'This is OUR last show' referring to the current line up for the Uh Huh Her tour. It is believed Polly is about to take some time away from public view, let's just hope it's not too long... Thanks for all the concerned e-mails in the meantime.

Date: Tue Dec 21 13:45
Guni ('s favourites in 2004):

in no particular order - and yes, I'm aware that some of them had been published in 2003 but somehow they're still growing on me - Giant Sand "Is all over the map" * Howe Gelb "Year of the Monkey" * Whip "Atheist Lovesongs to God" * Timesbold "Eye Eye" * Willard Grant Conspiracy "Regard the End" * Woven Hand "Consider the Birds" * The Band of Blacky Ranchette "Still looking good to me" * Fink "Haiku Ambulanz" * Missouri "In Voodoo Rama" * FODM "Random Harvest".

Date: Tue Dec 21 11:35
Dk (DK):

PJ : http://www.nme.com/news/110873.htm

Date: Tue Dec 21 10:57
james s (pretty girl):

milkin' a cow. oh yeah.

Date: Tue Dec 21 10:56
DK (dk):

Have you heard the bad news, PJ is done doing live shows. ”This is the last show I’ll ever play!”, she proclaimed at a show in Paris!

Date: Tue Dec 21 10:51
gene (krupa):

merry christmas to you all, fellow sandies

Date: Tue Dec 21 04:24
Lars (Hey, it's not me!):

Haven't been buying much on eBay lately. Only a microphone (guess what that's gonna be used for ;-) ). No sand-cds or something similar. I rarely loose an auction there. I bid in the last second and never on an equal amount. And well, remember: cough up enough dough! Tally-ho, chaps! / Lars

Date: Tue Dec 21 02:31
sSeanT (kEVIN kINNEY):

J - It's worth the wait.....

Date: Mon Dec 20 23:15
phill (great music dvd):

Damon & Naomi on tour with Kurihara (SONG TO THE SIREN)Great for true music heads. And a very merry Christmas to all on the board, God bless and hold tight to every great minute.

Date: Mon Dec 20 22:56
john krajicek (krajicek@tamu.edu):

can anyone point me to some downloadable wilco shows (tweedywankiness aside)??

Date: Mon Dec 20 21:46
Flynn (Moot point):

Moot, have you heard any of the recordings of Wilco's recent tour? The addition of Nels Cline does wonders for the new material. His guitar is an excellent counterpoint to Tweedy's wankiness (which I like, but I see your point -- the new album is definitely a difficult birth). And if you haven't heard the latest incarnation of Giant Sand live, check out the Rubigen show at archive.org. Splendid! BTW, the Vermontress festival link was a random find after being directed to bradley's almanac for a recent Arcade Fire show download (their album, The Funeral, is one of the best I've heard this year, too).

Date: Mon Dec 20 21:18
Moot (Topping off):

2004 saw my return to Sandland. Bootleg #3 and 4 were new to me, and heartily enjoyed! "Map" and the Blacky disc received heavy spinnage. Grandaddy's 'Sumday' was new to me too, and I loved that as well. Actual '04 releases I liked the most were Drive By Truckers "The Dirty South", and Sonic Youth's "Sonic Nurse".(I liked the Wilco CD enough, but it came out the same time as SY's, and the inventiveness of SY's gtrs compared to Tweedy's wankiness, just soured me on the disc)

Date: Mon Dec 20 21:06
Moot ((Vermonstress)):

Flynn, big thanks for posting that Vermonstress link! I was @ that show, and it soured me on the band. I saw them @ TT's 8 mo. prior, very user-friendly set w/ Dando/Hatfield manning the stage.I talked the show up to a buddy and took him w/ us to Verminstress. Howe was pretty looped, thrashing the most violent sounds outta that acoustic. We wondered if they were "grunging out" cause it was a Sub-Pop sponsered deal. We were blaming it on the news that V. Williams, who was supposed to be on the bill, had just been diagnosed. Sorrows being drowned and what not. Anyway, very happy to hear the show after all this time. Not as sloppy as I had reckoned. Here's that link again: http://www.bradleysalmanac.com/songs/vermonstress.htm mp3s of Giant Sand live at Vermonstress (a SubPop Festival) at Club Metronome (Burlington, VT) October 10, 1992:

Date: Mon Dec 20 20:55
J (Sean T):

Thanks for reminding me about Kevin Kinney, bleedin' xmas post is standin' in the way of my listening pleasure

Date: Mon Dec 20 18:01
i keep loosing at ebay (lars go to bed):

what ever percentage your on LEAVE IT

Date: Mon Dec 20 10:47
graham (2004's top ten or so):

Giant Sand "All Over the Map", Friends of Dean Martinez "Random Harvest", Califone "Heron King Blues", Richard Buckner "Dents and Shells", Tom Waits "Real Gone", Drive By Truckers "The Dirty South", The Anomoanon "Joji", Tracker "Blankets", Will Johnson "Vultures Await", Grant Lee Phillips "Virgina Creeper", Cary Hudson "Cool Breeze", Chris Whitley "War Crime Blues".

Date: Mon Dec 20 06:59
Lars (best):

The best artists this year in my opinion were Bleubird, Deerhoof, Berg Sans Nipple and Bobby Birdman. Brilliant stuff! / L

Date: Mon Dec 20 06:57
Lars (competition):

Anyone not ready to pull out cash for some Under Byen, yet maybe being curious, could check out the competition at the fansite: www.larsdideriksen.com/underbyen - 3 copies of the debut album "Kyst" as well as merchandise is up for grabs. Merry x-mas from Aarhus, sandies! / Lars

Date: Sun Dec 19 19:47
geoff (oh yea):

the new steve earle and the creek dippers are good political fun

Date: Sun Dec 19 19:46
geoff (not really a top ten...):

but a few more to add to favorites from this year. i echo a lot of other people's mentions, but thought i'd add chuck prophet's age of miracles, jon dee graham's great battle, 1100 springs' bandwagon, bonnie prince billy's country album, the mountain goats' we shall all be healed, and the silos' when the telephone rings.

Date: Sun Dec 19 19:03
t.g (purchase picks):

...that's right...TOm Waits - ReaL GONe, and Alberta locally...shuyler jansen's hobotron

Date: Sun Dec 19 11:14
Alex (2004 picks):

Big ditto on William Shatner's HAS BEEN. I was amazed on how good it is, maybe because I was expecting it to be campy. The poem about finding his dead wife in the swimming pool is chilling. It reminds me of Peggy Lee at times, like "Is That All There Is" (another Giant Sand cover). Shat's verison of Pulp's "Common People" is really great, and I bet Jarvis approves.

Date: Sun Dec 19 05:30
Jörg (2004's best - appendix):

Oh, I forgot OGLE also came out this year. Surely one of the highlights, too. And I have to add two more killer records: Laura Veirs "Carbon Glacier" (dark, stark & moody plaintive songs, very unique sound. I forgot "Shadow Blues" in my songs-of-the year-list below) and Firewater's "The Man On The Burning Tightrope" (if you liked Tom Waits' Real Gone don't miss this one!)

Date: Sun Dec 19 01:11
dj insight (5 more 2004 picks & purchases):

howe gelb - OGLE SOME PIANO, Sigmatropic - Sixteen Haiku & Other Stories, Grandaddy - ARTIST'S CHOICE, Jay Farrar - STONE, STEEL & BRIGHT LIGHTS, Calexico - CONVICT POOL

Date: Sun Dec 19 00:38
todd (top 2004 picks and purchases):

Upside Down Home 2004 - The Year of the Monkey, Is All Over...the Map, NOYOUCMON, AWCOMON, HERON KING BLVES, dents and shells, THE TIGERS HAVe Spoken, FAVORITE COLORS - The Sadies, Scout Niblett - Uptown top Ranking...and Last Call Records re-issue 2004 The band of...Blacky Ranchette

Date: Sun Dec 19 00:22
conch (apparently tall in the saddle):

Uh...er...that was supposed to be Flaming Lips. Or Sparklelips...whichever.

Date: Sun Dec 19 00:20
conch (right):

Songwise...the Sparklehorse/Flaming Horse collaboration of Daniel Johnston's "Go".

Date: Sat Dec 18 20:52
conch (I'm serious):

William Shatner's "Has Been". If you haven't heard it yet...you should. In my top ten of 2004. I was oddly...oddly moved by it.

Date: Sat Dec 18 15:38
Jörg (nonendingranking04):

I'd like to throw in some of my favourite songs of the year: Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds "There She Goes, My Beautiful World", You-know-who "Classico", Jolie Holland "Old Fashioned Morphine", Creekdippers "The End Of The Highway", Tom Waits "Hoist That Rag" & "Trampled Rose", M. Ward "Story Of An Artist"(D. Johnston-cover), The Libertines "What Katie Did", Will Oldham & Tweaker "The Color Of My Dreams, If I Had Dreams", Jon Langford "Hard Times", Devendra Banhart "Wake Up, Little Sparrow"

Date: Sat Dec 18 14:43
doug r ((top 04)):

so many good uns mentioned already --just to add more worthies. Eszter Balint "mud" is highly recommended ; Woven Hand "consider the birds" continues his excellent output :Jim White "drill a hole....." : Chris Whitley "war crime blues" : FODM "random harvest" : Chuck Prophet "age of miracles" in addition to GS, PJ, Tom Waits and Wilco.

Date: Sat Dec 18 09:12
frank c (Top 8 concerts):

(in Hamburg except otherwise indicated): Divine Comedy (Brussels and Hamburg); Die Sterne; Giant Sand; Lambchop (the first Hamburg gig); Heinz Strunk; Studio Braun; Nick Cave

Date: Sat Dec 18 08:34
tomma gailer (scrolling for faves in 2004):

1. Giant Sand – is all over the map 2. Tom Waits – Real Gone 3. Nick Cave – Abbatoir Blues/Lyre of Orpheus 4. Lambchop- Aw c`mon/No you c`mon 5. Bonnie Prince Billy - sings greatest Palace Music 6. Peyroux Madeleine - Careless Love 7. Wilco – A Ghost Is Born 8. Elliott Smith – From a basement on a hill 9. Ron Sexsmith – Retriever 10. The Divine Comedy- Absent friends 11. Sam Phillips – A boot and a shoe 12. Kante – Zombi 13. Jack Johnson – On and on 14. Magnetic fields – I

Date: Sat Dec 18 08:25
Frank C (top 10 04):

GS - Is all over the map; Paul Weller - Studio 150; Feist - Let It Die; Morrissey - You Are The Quarry; Wilco - A Ghost Is Born; Lambchop - Awcmon/NoYouCmon; Divine Comedy - Absent Friends; Beastie Boys - To The 5 Boroughs; Bonnie "Prince" Billy - Sings Greatest Palace Music; Thomas Dybdahl - That Great October Sound And then some old stuff I discovered during the year which I love even more than the most new releases and they are, at least, new to me: Elton John - Madman across the water / Captain Fantastic And The Brown Dirt Cowboy; Neil Young - Tonight´s The Night; Bryan Ferry - These Foolish Things / Another Time, Another Place; Roxy Music - The Early Years / Avalon; Rocket From The Tombs - The Day The Earth Met... Nice weekend everybody!

Date: Sat Dec 18 07:58
buxfix (songs and concerts):

some perfect songs of the year: GS: NYC of Time, Feist: Mushaboom, WGC: Soft Hand, Black Keys: the lengths, joanna newson: sprout and the bean, nicolai dunger: hunger, grandaddy: nature anthem, preston schoolof industry: get your crayons out! best concerts: giant sand in zurich, american music club: hamburg, KOC: hamburg and beulah also in hamburg - think thats it! have a nice weekend - bux

Date: Sat Dec 18 07:45
buxfix (best of 2004):

sittin over the review of the year md i say: feist, kings of convenience, giant sand, broken social scene, american music club (what a comeback), morrisey (what a comeback - hey), polly jean, kings of leon, joanna newson and gus black, devendra banhart

Date: Sat Dec 18 07:00
The Distance (gets closer):

Fav's this year, Giant Sand, Interpol, Silver Saddle, Rosie Thomas, Jesse Malin, Darren Plant, Mark Lanagan, Chilli's GH, Richmond Fontaine.

Date: Sat Dec 18 05:26
SeanT (LP's of the year...):

My faves this year : Social Distortion , Arcade Fire , Mark Lanegan , Giant Sand , Green Day , Kevin Kinney , The Beastie Boys , The Faces , The Zutons , Guided By Voices , Wilco , Tift Merritt , The Twilight Singers , Wreckless Eric .

Date: Fri Dec 17 23:19
conch (FROWN):

Crap, how could I forget SMILE!!!??? Yep yep yep, it's right up there.

Date: Fri Dec 17 19:55
hijo (ofkf):

How can you possibly forget Brian Wilson SMILE... But for sure THE MAP takes the firstQ

Date: Fri Dec 17 11:26
conch (faves of 2004):

Hmmmmmmmm...I'm really gonna need to sort through my CDs and figure out what struck me the most this year. But obviously "Is All Over The Map" is up there, as well as the two Lambchop discs. Hitchcock's "Spooky," (for the song Television alone), and Neko Case's live CD. Oh, while the concert dates from 1985, Pete Townshend's full length release of "The Deep End Live At The Brixton Academy" is really fantastic (available only through his web site). And I've been enjoying the Spongebob soundtrack quite a bit. I need to ponder through the stacks and get back on this one. Hey, where's Em gotten off to?

Date: Thu Dec 16 21:16
Flynn (best of 04):

still trying to hash my list out for my annual 'some of the best of this year' radio show next Thursday. Would be very interested in others' suggestions. Without question, 'Is All Over the Map' will be there. Califone's 'Heron King Blues' and My Morning Jacket's 'Acoustic Citsuoca,' too. Torn between Britney's pop opera and Devendra Banhart's two releases. Best live shows in ought-four? Wilco in Portland, Maine and Giant Sand in Cambridge, Mass. It's a tie.

Date: Thu Dec 16 18:42
hugh (LCC):

hmmm...the listener coffee companion out of stock.Glad I got mine just two weeks ago.Am thoroughly enjoying the videos.

Date: Thu Dec 16 14:55
Hanway Films (a new film by Terry Gilliam):

For those who might be interested: http://www.tidelandthemovie.com/

Date: Thu Dec 16 05:37
Richard (richiep@notforu.com):

Its that time of year and im going to list what i found to be the best albums of the year. For reasons none other than boredom and interest in other sandworms opinions. 1. Giant Sand - Is all over the Map. - You cant really argue with Howe when he returns with his head firmly in the sand, and the muted response to this album on this site is unfortunate. 2.Candidate - Under the skylon - Brilliant British indie folk or whatever label fits the bill best. 3. The Czars - Goodbye - Amazing return from an amazing band that is criminally ignored in the US 4.Owen - I do perceive - Late discovery but hear wrenching stuff from Owls/cap n jazz/joan of arc - drummer mike kinsella 5. Lambchop Awcom on/no you come on - Perhaps a liitle bit too clean and produced form one of my all time favourite bands, but this was still above and beyond most records that came out this year

Date: Wed Dec 15 19:18
paulK (Glasgow):

Prefer Glasgow although Edinburgh has its good points. Used to frequent it in the 70's mainly, cool record shops then. Tom, don't recall seeing Hot Tamales. Used to like the preservation Halls. A friend of mine, also called Tom, plays fiddle in some Edinburgh pubs

Date: Wed Dec 15 14:37
J (specifically):

http://www.shavedneck.com/Miscellani/pages/c05-GiantSandwormsCellar.htm

Date: Wed Dec 15 14:33
J (tucson hardcore flyers):

Natives may find this nostalgic, via metafilter http://www.shavedneck.com/ Dangloo, liked track 1...

Date: Wed Dec 15 12:33
Lars (cap):

What is "natural" colour? Skin colour? If so, English or Tucsonian? ;-) / L

Date: Wed Dec 15 11:26
Glue (For......?):

Fore how long did you die or just tease me tell me what is my time scale. I have a new job working with the naughtiest of santas elves. its lovley i get to be a calme voice in a world of mad !!! Catsuits not allowed. I am also devistated that nobody has bothered to insight me by being rude about my music? this is an open invitation to all you people who think i am a girl to stick the knife in the wife as it wernt. last chance www.stationforshrewsbury.co.uk/music.htm try it its not crack.

Date: Wed Dec 15 07:50
SeanT (Glue v Golf):

Enough is enough . Golf , I play golf not ever in the middle of a wedding .However I have noticed wedding parties in the clubhouse , don't worry you will be safe from the Pringle jumpered hordes. FORE !

Date: Wed Dec 15 04:27
tom (front desk):

Edinburgh.Paul did you ever drink in any of the Oyster bars or Whistle Binkies?You might have seen me playing there in the nineties.I played in 32-20 and Hot Tamales,both small blues combos.

Date: Tue Dec 14 21:11
Greg Haldane (gmhaldane@hotmail.cm):

Edinburgh or Glasgow, which do you prefer?

Date: Tue Dec 14 18:55
paulk (edinburgh):

Tom they are at the Queens Hall, check the Giant Sand homepage for details.

Date: Tue Dec 14 17:33
conch (archive/rainer):

Fantastic! Thank you!!!

Date: Tue Dec 14 11:21
archivist (Rainer added to Archive.org!):

Here is the first show.. As promised - 12-5-83 - http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=20514

Date: Tue Dec 14 10:37
glue (verifacation):

Sorry Thats my ill gal had a poerly quim . Oh stop me please

Date: Tue Dec 14 09:47
SeanT (gLUE):

Is Quim illegal now ?

Date: Tue Dec 14 08:36
tom (dont frisk):

Paul,where in Edinburgh?I used to live there.MMMMMMM...Rapido fish supper....

Date: Mon Dec 13 17:58
paulk (p.kerr@ntlworld.com):

Thanks to Christoph I've got the Haarlem disc to send to a few luckypeople who can then reoffer it. Mail me at the above address. AND.... GS in Edinburgh in February!!!!

Date: Mon Dec 13 14:49
J (OWOM):

Thanks a lot folks, got my year of the monkey, cap etc way before expected what with christmas n'all. Good work fellas! (and lasses)

Date: Mon Dec 13 14:12
OWOM (Listener Coffee Companion):

Sorry folks, we are out of stock of the LCC and it may be a while before we get them back.. So, the free cd offer is over and hopefully we will have a few more to see in the future. Also, we have taken down DH 02 which has finally sold out.

Date: Mon Dec 13 10:41
jy (christmas wish list):

I want a reissue of Storm on cd. It should be in a standard jewel case, and the liner notes should fold out to show the original cover art in big size. Bonus tracks not necessary, but maybe some new words of enlightenment of the procedings. I also want some tires for my new used $600 car. And some candy.

Date: Sat Dec 11 16:20
frank c (Dimebag):

What a sad and senseless death! I haven´t listened to his riffs since "vulgar display of power" (which I remember as one of the heaviest sounding and most powerful records ever). Maybe I should dig for Pantera in that hill of old tapes in the cellar...

Date: Sat Dec 11 12:23
glue (RIP DIMEBAG):

That man was god missed by me xxxxx

Date: Sat Dec 11 10:33
glue (weeding's and fun):

Whats going on! did you do this why is my wedding day on the same time as an emormouse golf fair? oh god i want to die why won't they leave me alne/ all these peop;le playing golf over my weeding day? what is golf / i hate it / why do all these furkers exists / is there anything eles that could push my already (see earilier comitmetment comments) realitionship over the edge peolle been laughing at me for being too nice / golf the bastards no rroms for family best man has to stay long way away / bastruds / i want to ssee golf become as illigal as quims. thats enough to angrty to even type even. NIGHTY

Date: Sat Dec 11 10:13
International Fantastical (Frank?):

A German who doesn't identify with his country or has national pride? That's probably a good thing. hahahahahahahaha. Just having a laugh. I'm smiling, and you should be to. :)

Date: Sat Dec 11 09:58
conch (europe/america biggle puss):

I think, perhaps, Europeans have an edge over us here in the U.S. in pointing out American export crap--i.e. fad diets, shallow taste, a suspect foreign policy--whereas most Americans are, for better or worse, blissfully ignorant of the more questionable aspects of European culture. Truth be known, much of what comes this way from across the Atlantic tends to be some of the better stuff created over the seas. We get the more artful films instead of the really bad ones, the more interesting TV shows--like The Office--instead of the horrible ones. In that regard, we're much more fortunate than our European counterparts, because we aren't swamped with every single thing created in your neck of the woods, both horrible and wonderful. So that tends to define the distinctions that are being made on both sides. However, as Europeans who are informed by so much American export, your comments are those of people who are being discriminating (discriminating in the best sense, that is)--but the sentiments don't always filter accurately, and that has much to do with our limited access to what is created over there. In other words, the regard is usually high over here because of the quality of European/U.K. material that finds its way into our homes, stereos, or big screens (as limited as it may be). So when the culture critiques come our way (which are justified), it sounds less like people who are sifting out the crap in favor of the good, but, rather, like a knee-jerk kind of judgement that has a reductionist aspect to it (and, I suspect, that might wrankle those who don't regard themselves or large chuncks of this country as being part of a homogenous whole). That said, if our cultural seed is pumping blindly about the globe, birthing both love children and vile mutants, a certain degree of import commentary should be welcome and useful. Anyway, I get my news from the BBC World Service, which is growing in popularity over here--so there's hope.

Date: Sat Dec 11 08:49
Frank C (The (international) diet conspiracy):

Ok, it´s discussable if one has to bring up issues which are not directly related to Giant Sand etc. But then: as Pitiful said this is an international board with many independent minds "all over the map" reading and writing, so why not discussing some international issues? Isn´t it quite remarkable that some of those supposed internationals feel offended when an absurdity like this low carb diet (which accidently happens in the States) is beeing discussed? In general: why is it anoying if a foreigner is curious about a certain dumb behaviour of a certain part of their people? Can´t understand why an American should feel insulted because it´s not directed against "the Americans" but against everyone everywhere who believes in crap like this. On the other side, maybe as a European (especially as a German for obvious reasons) I don´t have enough sense for patriotism, national pride, identifying with your country (...) to understand this. In this case: sorry. And: (international) Giant Sand is great, of course!

Date: Sat Dec 11 04:01
thin (a hollerin from thinland):

wellwell, all saints church, in february look like a good place to hang up coat, grin, open the ol' ear holes and say a thank ya very much monsieur gelb and cohorts. could be a new year for new ears.bigug

Date: Sat Dec 11 03:22
Leo (Down in the dirt):

Anyone up for a game of cornhole?

Date: Sat Dec 11 02:53
J (Pitiful and Greg):

Tell it like it is people. Cold Canada and Howe with a choir, whatever next? That's why the man has got such a hold on folks I guess! Snarkiness? That's a good addition to my vocabulary, thanks a lot.

Date: Fri Dec 10 23:17
International Dork (aka Pitiful):

Exactly...this is an international board...why people on this board want to stir up the international relations escapes me...nothing better to do ...kinda like me...but the "Giant Sand is more European than American" (or the other way around) bullsh*t...or the US is so wasteful crap... is just boring and gives me a sharp pain in my eye... so my post was just what I had on my mulletized redneck mind at the time ... no rehersal ...no proofing...it kind of dribbled out...kinda like Mr. Glue only not as good...it was meant to be vague... I guess...I think...I really did not ponder very long about it...I live in Tucson and was born in Oaxaca, Mexico... towns where you do need cars and you don't need cars...what does any of that have to do with Giant Sand?...Does Howe need a car? probably not here in the barrio...probably not in Denmark...Yeah Bush sucks... so do all leaders in Europe...W just has more military muscle....Hitler anyone?...Yeah Hummer's suck (gas)... so do Ferrari's ...Oil for food anyone?...low carb, low cal, low fat, low cholest....what the F*ck?...I am more interested in how Howe and his family are doing...anybody?... I am smiling just in case you wondered...ciao, aaaaaadios, later and goodluck with the relations.

Date: Fri Dec 10 20:58
Greg Haldane (gmhaldane@hotmail.com):

There seems to be a lot of snarkiness on the board lately. Do I have to put all of you kids into timeout?

Date: Fri Dec 10 18:59
A Dumb American (Me Talk Pretty Someday):

Uh...er...what? Maybe I'm reading it all wrong, but I can't tell if that's an anti-Europe or anti-America slam. Hmmmmmmmmm...confusing. Well, I'll just cover both ends and say, "You international dork!" Just kidding, of course. But clue me in Pitiful, really, because I'm not following, although I get the overall neg. vibe, just can't navigate the direction of your jab. Uh...keep up the good work, though.

Date: Fri Dec 10 18:43
Pitiful (American):

Europe, Europe, Europe...We just want to be like you...We are just cowboys...riding our horses...in the desert...with dusty chaps...it is such a shame to we are not like you...Boo ****ing Hoo

Date: Fri Dec 10 07:41
Lars (Richard):

Be sure to click "Tours - Giant Sand" and not "Tours - Howe Gelb"....and scroll all the way down. And if still nothing happens click your refresh-button (but that should not be the case now). / Lars ... happy dane ;-)

Date: Fri Dec 10 05:45
hugh from paris (seant(canada)):

sean-this will probably reach you too late but if you have a chance on your last night for a drink stop by the Cameron House(408 Queen St. West)just a half block west of Spadina;look for the orange ants crawling up the side of the building.The Horseshoe(just east of spadina)on Queen St. West is good too-sometimes depending on the band playing that night.Howe played there about 3 years ago.Cheers!

Date: Fri Dec 10 05:21
peasoup ( - himself):

tour starting late january in scandinavia also bring GS to great britain, yes

Date: Fri Dec 10 04:43
Jörg (Richard):

All the dates are there......good news for everybody in Denmark, Italy, Austria and UK. (Stefan, I guess you finally will catch up on some more shows this time around - maybe even Italy ;-)?)

Date: Fri Dec 10 04:07
Richard (Richardperring@hotmail):

Hi guys, but unless my computers lying to me, which is a possibility then the tour page doesn't seem to shed any light bout these jan tour dates

Date: Thu Dec 9 18:49
J (moorwood mike):

Giz an easy to buy Rain Parade thing if ya have the power???

Date: Thu Dec 9 13:47
Thats (Thats):

Thats posted at www.rickygelb.com

Date: Thu Dec 9 13:47
Thats (Thats):

Thats posted at www.rickygelb.com

Date: Thu Dec 9 13:46
Ricky Gelb (mail(at)rickygelb.com):

The answer to my trivia question to win the 7 inch, first Giant Sandworm record, is posted on the comment page at www.ricktgelb.com Also, I think the future January GS tour dates are on.

Date: Thu Dec 9 13:45
Ricky Gelb (mail(at)rickygelb.com):

The answer to my trivia question to win the 7 inch, first Giant Sandworm record, is posted on the comment page at www.ricktgelb.com Also, I think the future January GS tour dates are on.

Date: Thu Dec 9 11:56
Lars (scrolling for Richard):

How about checking the Giant Sand tour page? ;-) / L

Date: Thu Dec 9 09:44
Richard (Richardperrins@hotmail.com):

European tour jan/feb 2005? Dates please. I hope to god that the boys come back to the UK because i was too wasted to remember the Bush Hall gig properly

Date: Thu Dec 9 05:10
tommy gailer (scrolling for hayseed dixie):

that`s maybe the funniest taping policy ever: http://www.hayseed-dixie.com/taping.html

Date: Wed Dec 8 23:15
lookin for Mike Sa-Wa-Ro (I need a answer!):

what does Howe call the bear and when did it first appear and howe. please give us the story about YO-MOMMA BEAR, thanks, Phill

Date: Wed Dec 8 19:05
J (Mike):

Well, I never wear non protective hats, or badges. But I do paypals. Testing the newborn sawaro store...

Date: Wed Dec 8 17:59
glue (i must ahve dropped off ):

Giant sand returning? the same week i am producing an opera? feel free to visit Shrewsbury to Watch The beggars Opera 18th century satire all welcome its the last thing of my old life.

Date: Wed Dec 8 17:36
mike ([sa-wa-ro]):

hi all..... have finally put up the first part of my web store, the giant sand bit at any rate, have some tour t-shirts (xxl only at present)but getting some more made for the next part of the european tour (january/february)... also some older t-shirts, and some caps, badges and cd's.... link is www.sa-wa-ro.com/GS-Store/gs-store.htm .... tucson and related will be next, followed by guitar/americana stuff.... payment is by paypal, or cheques (uk banks only) or even cash'll do...

Date: Wed Dec 8 16:02
Canada (CDs/Cassettes):

Because it's cheaper.

Date: Wed Dec 8 15:36
T.G. (Blaine):

That's a good question?...I'm puzzled? Why is it that cd's/ cassettes get printed or made in Canada? Man I shouldn't of typed anything about the Canadian dollar it just dropped again :( One good thing about being Canadian over being an American is that we have no problems if we want to go to Cuba.

Date: Wed Dec 8 11:54
Frank C (mild years):

Well, I guess "Uncle Sam" should admit himself to laugh at his relatives if there´s reason to laugh (as his neighbours from the other side of the lake do, too - well, at least, Lars does ;-)). This diet idea sounds quite funny (thoug I missed the beer and dope in it) so what ´s the problem? (I unintententionally started the diet 12 years ago by drinking buckets of coffee every day). And of course, I brought this topic up with a self reference: most good, bad and ridicolous ideas from the States swap over to our place with little or no delay (rocknroll, diet coke, aerobics...). So please don´t worry too much about Europe´s supposed arrogance.

Date: Wed Dec 8 11:02
Lars (Carbs á euro - US the greatest etc.):

The "no carb" thing has been here in Europe a little while. This week's there's a documentary on the dumbest tv-channel here (I hope they come to the right conclusion). Regular healthy people shouldn't do the diet. You WILL loose weight by doing it, apparently, but your colestorole skyrockets (and other things that should stay low)....so it doesn't make you healthier at all. Also says to drink lots of coffee, if I remember correctly. But yeah, someone will always try it, for sure. No matter how stupid it sounds. One thing's for certain: shortcuts NEVER work. It's the hard way if you wanna get healthier. I recently started doing aikido, which I find quite interesting. My body hasn't experience any serious exercise for years, so it's complaining. Still, I'm gonna keep at it. ### "America is the greatest country in the world" makes me wanna puke also. Well, whatever country is saying it! I just hear it more from Mr. Bush that anyone else....and he seems hell-bent on doing the opposite with your country. Hmmm, maybe time to give the ol' Jello Biafra "Martial Law" spoken word-thing a listen... "This country is now under martial law. All constitutional rights have been suspended. Shut up! Do not attempt to think or depression may occur. The number one enemy of progress is questions. Remain calm. Do not panic. Sports broadcast will proceed as scheduled. Shut up! Be happy! Obey all orders without question. The comfort you've demanded is now mandatory. At last: everything is done FOR you." He-he! What's the title of that track? "Message from our sponsor", I think. :-D ### Over here we're in the grasps of the bureaucracy called The European Union where no one knows what each other is doing (it's probably the same) and the politicians get fatter and fatter... Jeez, I'm getting blue now....time for "Plants And Rags" á la "Cover Magazine"? Uh, nice save, don't ya think, dudes? ;-) Greets! / Lars

Date: Wed Dec 8 09:26
james s (frank's wild years and uncle sammy):

No, Frank. It's not a hoax. It's hard to find a menu these days without the "low carb" section. On a side not, I saw a clever political poster a few months ago that said, "No carbs in 2004: no Cheney, no Ashcroft, no Rumsfield, no Bush." Don't think, though, that we americans are a homogeneous lot. There are many of us over here hoping that this fad dies off before too many of it's practitioners do. As for Europeans embracing mindless US imports, clearly it happens, but I don't imagine the Eurofolks are a homogeneous lot either. As for mindlessness, it knows no geographical boundaries. Just for fun, though, you Euros should try holding and eating a hamburger without bread, especially one with lots of "special sauce." As for high and mighty finger pointing, aka cultural arrogance, that seems to know no geographical boundaries either. If I hear the statement, "America is the greatest country in the world," one more time, I might just spontaneosly combust. For those of you that get irritated with posts that aren't giant sand related, let me just say, Giant Sand is cool. That's all from this quarter. Is it the weekend yet?

Date: Wed Dec 8 06:23
Uncle Sam (with a can of Spam):

Well, Europe, here's your chance to actually avoid the low-carb diet. So just say no for once, and spare yourself--and us--the annoyance of pointing high-and-mighty fingers when another dumb American craze is embraced by those who routinely lament mindless U.S. exports. Really, the two-faced nature of it all gets old.

Date: Wed Dec 8 06:05
Frank C (diet issue):

I know it´s not about Giant Sand but it´s worth wondering ... Read in the newspaper yesterday that there has been a serious "low carb" diet fasion in the US?! People eating as much fat and proteine as possible and no carbohydrates like potatos or pasta? Coke developped a "no carb" diet coke? MCDo selling burgers without the bread? Bill Clinton being surprised that he got sick after eating steaks without sidedishes all day? Cmon, tell me that was a hoax! Or will this diet flood hit old Europe next year?

Date: Wed Dec 8 00:37
Blaine (TG-DJ):

Question for ya - why do covers/insert for albs & cds get printed in Canada?

Date: Tue Dec 7 20:42
Todd Gray (whoops two entries):

...just flipped the cassette and the old tape has to be heard on a road trip. I'm giving the second The Love Songs cassette to a good friend.

Date: Tue Dec 7 20:31
Dj Insight (AB) (promo cassette 'The Love Songs' OR):

...@ my old friend's now and the cassette sounds good. John Convertino is not listed on related but plays on 'The Gradual Moment' by Old Reliable. Just beginning side two of Thelovesongs. The voice of Falling James....this would be his first appearance? then Swerve...pronounced CA-CA-VAS right? 1988 Homestead Records still printed in Canada. oh just ended the cassette. keep flippin'...

Date: Tue Dec 7 20:28
Dj Insight (AB) (promo cassette 'The Love Songs' OR):

...@ my old friend's now and the cassette sounds good. John Convertino is not listed on related but plays on 'The Gradual Moment' by Old Reliable. Just beginning side two of Thelovesongs. The voice of Falling James....this would be his first appearance? then Swerve...pronounced CA-CA-VAS right? 1988 Homestead Records still printed in Canada. oh just ended the cassette. keep flippin'...

Date: Tue Dec 7 19:23
todd ("how'd you get past the gates"):

...finally figured the coded message from the song 'Inner Flame'. Just got Inner Flame in the mail, ah good listen fer sure. I like how Howe and Rainer are on a bunch of tracks and also Howe's liner notes. I never seen this cd anywhere so I went after it on ebay...pretty good deal 9.20 American...don't forget the Canadian dollar is getting stronger. oh and I also got two copies of The Loves SOngs on Cassette!...Good deal @ musicweb.com...Minus 20 up here freezin' faces and few smiles. We adapt and play shinny...time to get my skates sharpened. Check out related records to find that my Old Reliable was included in Howe Gelb, Joey Burns and I think John Convertino. Good on Mr. Mike Brewer. New record by Old Reliable in the spring called 'The Burning Truth'. DJ Insight (AB)

Date: Tue Dec 7 18:41
J (Ricky):

Yeh mon,but dem cherry lip gloss fulla dat shat

Date: Tue Dec 7 15:44
r (m@r):

winners.....YES....there are......Kinda......Close enough. Last shots anyone????? By the way J, see things are looking up. You influenced a female to offer up the slow motion image of her licking her lips in aknowledgement. So lovely and tasty is lip gloss, so see through like a magnifiing glass of those pink delicate lips. ........ok then, back to the aspartame thing.

Date: Tue Dec 7 15:34
Ricky ("" " ):

I will really try to give the answer tonight after work/kids/!@#$%^&^/..... .. . put .... . . .. . .put ........put

Date: Tue Dec 7 15:34
job (ricky--no winner yet?):

if in a car checks her self out in the mirror--anywhere else, the nearest reflective surface (window, or whatevever) will do.

Date: Tue Dec 7 15:17
Ricky Gelb (mail(at)rickygelb.com):

Just came across an article that is located in a magazine from up in Hudson, New York : http://www.chronogram.com/issue/2004/11/backbone/earwhacks/ for you folks that like reading about my brother. I was actually was looking for a review of a documentary that I am working to get out to the media/public. It pertains to how deadly Aspartame is. Its a product many folks consume thinking its safe, such as diet coke and pepsi or jello. Its in 9,000 food products. If you know anyone that drinks diet soda you should check it out. www.soundandfury.tv (Its were I work)

Date: Tue Dec 7 11:25
Lars (USA-DK):

I remember when I was in New Jersey back in '95 or so. Stayed at a villa, but everytime one had to go somewhere it was by car. Going past villas and villas....until we found the freeway....which lead us to the mall. No shop around the corner from the house. Of course we got housing areas here too, but usually there's a supermarked within walking distance (10 minutes)...unless of course you like in the countryside. Right now, in the middle of Aarhus, I've got it made. Although, living in a way too expensive and small-ish one room apartment it's dead center. Shops, venues and work is within immediate reach. Very nice. But of course Aarhus is small. 250.000 inhabitants...so there you go. The second largest city in Denmark, ha-ha. Capital Copenhagen has got about 1 million...with the suburbs. Probably ridiculous figures in your ears. :-) The two cities are 3 1/2 hours apart by train. ### But I got everything I need here (I do come from a small town in the countryside where there were no nice cafés and cool music shops). Hmmmm, where am I going with all this? Nowhere...and fast. Just an amusing comparison to the US maybe? :-D Greets! / Lars

Date: Tue Dec 7 09:03
james s (lars):

i envy you, lars, for being able to do without driving, for living in an environment that was made for human habitation, with public transport that actually works, and then the walking factor. Where I am, it's all spread out, and ugly. Walking or cycling is a good way to get hurt. Not only do we not have any kind of workable public transport, we don't even have sidewalks, much less bike lanes. This country is built for cars, trucks, SUVs, and their manufacturers, and the oil and gas people. There are cities over here, of course, where one can get by without a car of their own, but the vast areas are vast and spread and roads everywhere, covered with Molluscs in their shells, with not a person on foot in sight... six miles to the next chain restaurant... oh boy. :(

Date: Tue Dec 7 05:20
SeanT (Canada):

Off to Toronto tomorrow , never been to Canada before. Any tips or ideas ? Only there 4 nights , I'm going to a wedding . I guess it will be freezing.

Date: Tue Dec 7 03:33
Lars (sulksulk):

No gas-whining from me. Not even a "gotta-get-a-car"-whine (everything here is within walking or cycling distance - otherwise it's the train). Hmmmm....what else....? Ah, yes....whiiiiiiiiiiine...Where's the gospel record?!?! ;-D Otherwise just looking forward to going home for christmas. Happy X-and-all! / Lars

Date: Tue Dec 7 02:34
hank (temples of gas):

You gotta stop i dont mean please / you gonna change or im a goina leave

Date: Mon Dec 6 19:51
ferump (lars):

Sure, Lars, we'll stop whining. But when are you gonna stop? :)

Date: Mon Dec 6 15:37
Lars (girlies ):

Jeez, we sure sound like a sad lot, y'all...getting mostly odd reactions. Hmmm....I'll spare you my musings on the matter. :-) Maybe I should start with getting a car and then take it from there? Easier to raise the roughly 23.000 of the current "low tide dollars" to buy a car than... ### (and you Americans, stop whining about your "high" gas prices!) ;-D / Lars

Date: Mon Dec 6 14:33
J (Nah):

Small town coastal UK. Sorry to spoil it. What's the word on the gospel album?

Date: Mon Dec 6 14:32
J (james):

Sure are. ((;-~

Date: Mon Dec 6 14:30
J (gazelle):

well you must have the speed, smell and desire as well. Dilemma. Wassup Ricky?

Date: Mon Dec 6 14:29
james s (#:-o):

the emoticons are evolving...

Date: Mon Dec 6 14:12
gazelle (j is right):

i agree with j. i mean, that's what i would do. only i might look off to the side after looking down at the ground and then brush back my hair and look back to see if he's still looking. maybe then i'd bite my lip and raise my eyebrows or something as a sign of recognition. this is all happening in downtown tucson right because that's how i'm picturing it. ;OP

Date: Sun Dec 5 17:13
archivist (one other note..):

This set from Rainer from 1983 will be made avaliable in the coming week (or so) at archive.org. I am very excited about this and you should be too! Thanks Patti.. visit raineroftucson.com & www.kxci.org/rainer

Date: Sun Dec 5 17:05
archivist (KXCI on Monday Night!):

As part of our 21st Anniversary celebration, KXCI will re-air something I put together for last year's anniversary. It is the material from KXCI's 1st broadcast & recorded on 12-5-83 featuring the entire set from Rainer & Das Combo (42 min) and individual tracks from a few other groups that played including The Giant Sandworms. This will be on 'Local's Only' on Monday night. The first hour of the show will be hosted by Al Perry and will be featuring the best local music of the last 21 years. That's Monday night - starting at 8 PM (Das Combos set at 9:15 or so...) on 91.3 FM KXCI - Tucson AZ (www.kxci.org)

Date: Sun Dec 5 15:04
ricky (mail(at)rickygelb.com):

sorry, never found the time yesterday and I am now back at Bentely's with my herd. I will post the answer today. Thanx

Date: Sun Dec 5 14:49
stefan (munich):

Coyne was one of my musical favorites in the early 1980's. Sad to learn he's gone.

Date: Sat Dec 4 19:19
paulk (another man done gone):

After old Peelie going I found out today that Kevin Coyne died on Thursday. Older UKers will remember him,maybe some others, sad sad news.

Date: Sat Dec 4 13:51
OK then, (from ricky trivia land) (Winner or r's):

I am jugaling my 3 yr old girl Piper, My twin boys 6 Y.O Gibran and Gabliel., and My oldest girl Frankie 7 goning on 33. You know. We are at Bentely's coffee house in Tucson. My wife is in bed with a hang over. Wouldn't you know it, She stayes up till 4 am whatching Real Sex (HBO) and Fear factor rerundes, drank 2 bottles of wine and I did not even get laid. The humanity. After the sedtives kick in with the kids, I will scroll down to review all asnwers and determine the winners.

Date: Sat Dec 4 06:01
glue (all this talk..):

........musta busted a junction in my head/ go out last night / my fine lady is away / this girl is talkin to mee on and on buys me a drink / i have a flaming sambuca lit and going in my mouth woo she does the same and sets fire to her self / i explain that i am / coming up to being a / maried man but still she persues all the time / riddling in my mind is the question why after all this talk and chunder would a woman full of splender and doused with wonder / arpoarch a hoax and turn in her charm / defiantly not to be on an arm/ she was wasted i felt the blame / i walked her home talking dhit to kkep her sane arrived at her house left her for dead / she past out over sofas don't know if she would have made it to bed / so being polite and a;lso to blam / though aparetnly an exboyfriend fulled more of this drink shame / i made her a fresh glass of water and squash and left her to rest on the place she bequothed. / the moral of this story is always stay in and dont drink like a yid / partcipate in boxing matches for tuppaware lids / hold true to yourself and keep the rest within reach / but probably most of all to any old dog theres tricks you canb teach. miss you xxx

Date: Fri Dec 3 17:46
Flynn (impress your friends):

http://www.ringtones.net.au/Detailed/91357.html

Date: Fri Dec 3 17:37
Leo (Down in the Dirt):

Has the cornhole craze hit Europe Yet?

Date: Fri Dec 3 16:56
Blaine (BOC minus umlat):

It doesn't get much perfecter than Reaper, esp in radio wasteland. The Red and the Black, anyone?

Date: Fri Dec 3 16:54
Blaine (Bo Diddley or the Yardbirds or somebody...):

...I was looking back to see if she was looking back to see if I was looking back at her.

Date: Fri Dec 3 14:06
Graham (reaper):

I've got a fever...and the only prescription is MORE COWBELL.

Date: Fri Dec 3 13:48
Flynn (Reaper):

Wilco closed their recent shows with "Don't Fear the Reaper," while playing in front of a backdrop image of George Bush giving his infamous one-finger salute.

Date: Fri Dec 3 12:49
J (james s):

Not gonna get that riff out of my head for a while now...

Date: Fri Dec 3 12:35
james s (unrelated last thoughts):

admit it... "Don't Fear the Reaper" is a cool song.

Date: Fri Dec 3 11:57
J (Last thoughts):

Glue is right, taken a smile and free a scold. Gimme the record!

Date: Fri Dec 3 11:28
ricky (..):

I will put an end to this today. Any last thoughts?

Date: Fri Dec 3 10:45
glue (Hello?):

have any of people ever looked at a woman looking at a woman looking at a man? cook books you have. it only works one way - if your taken you get a smile if your free you get a scold unless you are some kalvin kline model which and no offence to the giant sand fan steryo type here i doubt any of us are - i probably could have been a contender had i not been struck at speed buy the ugly bus as i fell from ugly tree where i was trying to gaze through the window of a lady but enough. This realy is weird and for me to say this is also very weird people look the world is a small fish bowl everybodies looking for a corner to slink off into and we can't that leaves us bouncing like bowling balls being thown buy a 3 years old bouncing down the runway opf life. if you relay on looks alone you are feeblke but if you manage it fair play your a better man/lady digging lady than me. I went to mingle with the Cheltenhamtypes this week and even played a gig. it was realy weird just before i began in front of a full house of 8 and a small dog a guy i used to know from school entered to the room / fate has always thown me such strange bones / complety flustered i held a D/G rythem going for 10 mins with me Monologueing / rantiung about life rafts and quincy / at the end a small boy / came over and asked me if i had rehursed said monolougionation i just gave him a stool and left. Well i enjoyed it./ ps judging by the lack off critial acclaim i am guessing that i did'nt relight any fires must trie harder. love ya all xxxxxx

Date: Fri Dec 3 08:00
tHom (I'm with J):

been following the thread with some amusement and waiting to see if anyone else would say it and I think J has nailed it. She first glances down at her feet/shoes/the ground just in front of her - always. The look back up or at the guy and the hair touching thing are optional extras and it varies. But that first instantaneous glance downward is obligatory amd may be just to check for any obstacles in the flight path ...

Date: Fri Dec 3 03:17
J (Ricky thread...):

Looks at her shoes, back at the driver, brushes imaginary hair from her face, looks at her shoes again. In my experience it could be in a strange town and the leading lady a person I do/don't find to be my 'type' Or it could be nearer home and go on occasionally for years. Eventually something has gotta give (In the latter scenario) That's when someone plucks up the courage to say hello.

Date: Thu Dec 2 23:06
john krajicek (krajicek@tamu.edu):

rolls her eyes with a little shake of her head

Date: Thu Dec 2 22:39
john krajicek (krajicek@tamu.edu):

she sucks in her stomach (hey, it ain't just us, boys)

Date: Thu Dec 2 20:24
james s (listening to old cassettes of Golden Earring):

that's freakin' great.

Date: Thu Dec 2 18:21
Paulk (Pretty women):

Checks to see if her fly is down.

Date: Thu Dec 2 16:49
karlos (hellooo laydeeezzz):

attractive women never catch my eye. it's like they've spied me from an adjacent post code and realised the peril of looking in my direction...such is my devastating handsomeness and heroic stature with blonde locks flowing in the wind, they would have to give up their mundane lives as stuntwomen or parachutists and join me on a hedonistic tour of the low countries, gargling with absinthe and listening to old cassettes of Golden Earring. Or maybe just no-one looks at one another and smiles any more. not in londinium anyways.

Date: Thu Dec 2 16:13
james s (could it):

be something as simple as a blush?

Date: Thu Dec 2 15:52
r (.):

no.....not so deep, its a reaction I doubt girls even realize they do until it was brought up and they thought back.....and may say.....oh yeah, i guess i do do that.

Date: Thu Dec 2 15:09
john krajicek (krajicek@tamu.edu):

she quickens her pace... escape mechanism... caused by some deep seated fear...

Date: Thu Dec 2 14:06
Gloria (Sticky Buns):

MMMMMMMM.....Glue, you sound like my type of man. Do you like fat chicks with ten cats and scars?

Date: Thu Dec 2 14:02
rg (" " "):

2 people are close. The last person "she", could you be more specific. I find it interesting, these conditioned behaviors that seem to be amongst large populations. ………. i.e. Females. Half the human population. I am angered by the rhetoric of government and their reckless regard for mankind. Wasted money and energy that serve the future poorly. Why is a yawn contagious? Now there's something worth understanding. Anyway, since my brother is occupied with such sad circumstances of life and beyond. At least I can offer up some brotherly entertainment.

Date: Thu Dec 2 13:18
Blaine (Glue Wins):

I agree, Glue takes the crust, I mean cake. But my sister is looking into that temporary restraining order.

Date: Thu Dec 2 12:10
Ricky (mail(at)rickygelb.com):

Let me be more specific. A Guy is driving; traffic is at a halt (stopped or very slow). The driver looks around since he is stopped. Notices a girl walking on the sidewalk in the near distance. The gets that built in sense and does a peripheral check. Makes eye contact, possibly quicker than a moment. Hasn't even gotten to the thought process of whether she finds the guy attractive or considers her own personal situation of availability or possibility. This is the point when girls walking down the street, taken by surprise, realizes she is being observed. What is the behavior that typically happens? That's the question. I will be back after I get to work. Please send me emails, so I can send you an email when the fun starts at the end on January. This happens 8 out of ten times, maybe 7 or nine. Off to work at www.soundandfuryproductions.com. And I would like some female imput, but not sure they would know the behavior more than the guy in the driving position.

Date: Thu Dec 2 12:07
conch (she...):

looks away, before looking back.

Date: Thu Dec 2 11:54
Ricky (mail(at)rickygelb.com):

Let me be more specific. A Guy is driving; traffic is at a halt (stopped or very slow). The driver looks around since he is stopped. Notices a girl walking on the sidewalk in the near distance. The gets that built in sense and does a peripheral check. Makes eye contact, possibly quicker than a moment. Hasn't even gotten to the thought process of whether she finds the guy attractive or considers her own personal situation of availability or possibility. This is the point when girls walking down the street, taken by surprise, realizes she is being observed. What is the behavior that typically happens? That's the question. I will be back after I get to work. Please send me emails, so I can send you an email when the fun starts at the end on January. This happens 8 out of ten times, maybe 7 or nine. Off to work at www.soundandfuryproductions.com. And I would like some female imput, but not sure they would know the behavior more than the guy in the driving position.

Date: Thu Dec 2 11:07
Jörg (Ricky's question):

No use trying anymore - I'm sure glue's answer is the correct one.

Date: Thu Dec 2 10:31
john krajicek (krajicek@tamu.edu):

Ricky's question. Her response completely depends on whether or not she's attracted to the guy. Yes, the response is inevitably a smile... but if she's not hot for the guy, that smile says it clearly (oh god, boys, don't we hate that smile that says "thanks for looking, pal, but it ain't gonna happen"). But oh luscious the wonders of that magic smile if she IS attracted... the tingles of anticipation. Ahhhhh... the nuances of body language are quite remarkable, are they not?

Date: Thu Dec 2 09:13
james s (new insights):

It's a good question, Ricky. Each guy will answer according to his own experiences. I envy the guys that get the smiles. It would be nice to have a females perspective on this... though the board seems to be entirely dominated by male posters these days. Come on girls, if you are out there lurking, jump in and win this record.

Date: Thu Dec 2 09:08
glue (Girls):

In my case a wave of relif passes through thier face as they realise that 'it wasn't all in their heads' and that ' no mom im not being stupid there is a man hiding in our garbage' and that that man is here, probably stood in some jelly waveing a crust old torn flag with a picture of Diana Prices of Whales on one side and doidi alfied smeared over the back . Then i run

Date: Thu Dec 2 06:45
tom (belgium):

she looks away for about ten seconds, then looks back to check that the looker is still looking.

Date: Thu Dec 2 03:17
tom (front desk):

Breaks into some moves from Electric Boogaloo,screaming'' Guys dig me!!! I am so HOT!!!!!!!''And then falls into a table.

Date: Wed Dec 1 22:14
Greg Haldane (gmhaldane@hotmail.com):

Or how about she wishes the guy unexpectedly looking at her was a stud like Ricky Gelb?

Date: Wed Dec 1 22:09
Greg Haldane (gmhaldane@hotmail.com):

Touches her hair?

Date: Wed Dec 1 21:08
Flynn (answer):

she smiles.

Date: Wed Dec 1 21:06
peter (nyc):

if alone, she stares back, and sometimes smiles, if she's with her friends, she tells them to check out if the looker's looking really looking

Date: Wed Dec 1 18:31
J (sand collector):

Looks at her shoes

Date: Wed Dec 1 15:01
gelbagain (mail(at)rickygelb.com):

Hell why not try to win one now, before the January event. Answer this: When a girl unexpectedly notices a guy is looking at her. Most of the time, what is the very first thing she does?

Date: Wed Dec 1 14:54
Gelb, Ricky (mail(at)rickygelb.com):

I have recieved several emails pertaining to the 6 white 7" Giant Sandworms records that will be given away in mid-january. www.mansiononthehill.biz is honoring Mike Brewer/ www.sa-wa-ro.com and my self during a week towards the end of January. The give-aways of the first Giant Sandworms record will be possible from all 3 websites. There may be a few xtra copies beyond the 6 given away, primaraly by listening to www.mansiononthehill.biz. I will be offering a couple on my site by answering a trivia question corectly. Who knows? BUT if you want information about when and how. send me an Email Or leave me a messege on the comments page at www.rickygelb.com Thanx BULKY LOW MAX

Date: Wed Dec 1 10:47
stefan (vermonstress):

hey flynn, thanks for the link. I asked this guy for a copy a while ago but he didn't respond.

Date: Wed Dec 1 09:58
james s (for J):

don't know if you ever got my email reply... got a message this morning telling me it hadn't been delivered but that it would continue to try???, so i'll use this forum (sorry others), thanks for the photo links, loved the mirrorproject shot.

Date: Wed Dec 1 08:54
Flynn (Giant Sand Oct 10, 1992):

mp3s of Giant Sand live at Vermonstress (a SubPop Festival) at Club Metronome (Burlington, VT) October 10, 1992: http://www.bradleysalmanac.com/songs/vermonstress.htm

Date: Wed Dec 1 03:00
phil (ghog22077@msn.com):

great concert to watch, http://www.woodsongs.com/showlist.asp #319 Tuck and Patti, but ya gotta check out Jason White. ya ya

Date: Tue Nov 30 19:16
J (trashed and rehashed):

Happened to me once in Harlesden, long story. Support was from I think Gods'Eye who had a datsun, nearly killed me in the car park... Once saw a scary bigger boy from school do the same on the front steps of guildford civic hall. He missed a goo Bauhaus set...

Date: Tue Nov 30 16:22
Squad (ohikes1@yahoo.com):

I went to see GS recently at SouthPaw in Brooklyn. I got trashed before hand and wound up with an unexpected and stomach churning spiritual experience in the bathroom for the entire set. I missed GS. GD!

Date: Tue Nov 30 11:53
james s (interesting VU find):

http://www.portlandmercury.com/current/feature3.html

Date: Tue Nov 30 00:09
atom (rubigen vine):

thanx to Tom, I can send a copy of the Oct 15 Rubigen show to someone in the usa who will keep the vine going. Contact me at atom-eyes(at)excite(dot)com

Date: Mon Nov 29 19:29
J (mid january):

Jeez Ricky, that's around the time of my birthday. james s u got mail...

Date: Mon Nov 29 15:31
werd (?):

hi

Date: Mon Nov 29 14:57
Lurch (!@#$%^&*):

Unreal, I have tried to find a copy of that white record Howe's brother is giving away for years. I plan on winning a copy so sorry to the rest of you GS fans.

Date: Mon Nov 29 14:55
Bulky Low Max (mail (at) rickygelb.com):

By the way, Billy Sedlmayr is alive. Recently there has been some talk that he died, but it is not true. I ran into Rich Hopkins yesterday at Bentleys coffee shop and he gave me a copy of a recent release of Rich and Billy called "The 50 percenters".

Date: Mon Nov 29 14:49
Bulky (mail (at) rickygelb.com):

Welcome all, The comment page on www.rickygelb.com is now working. Thanx to Mike Brewer the wizard. In mid-January www.sa-wa-ro.com, www.mansiononthehill.biz (Internet Radio Station) and www.rickygelb.com will be giving away 6 of the very first Giant Sandworms first record ever. It's a 7" white vinayl that collectors have paid hundreds for. If you would like more info on this, email Ricky Gelb at mail@rickygelb.com

Date: Mon Nov 29 14:10
james s (calexico movies):

for any interested at http://www.kdhx.org/programs/mystery.htm

Date: Sun Nov 28 21:20
todd (message to the people pg. 4):

to quote Marcus Garvey..."Try never to repeat yourself in any one discourse in saying the same thing over and over again except you are making new points, because repetition is tiresome and it annoys those who hear the repetition"...I qualify by saying 'looking forward' my fault...sorry bout that.

Date: Sun Nov 28 20:28
conch (Big Bad Love):

Very sad, indeed. He was a fine man & a fine writer.

Date: Sun Nov 28 18:23
james s (r.i.p.):

l a r r y b r o w n. sorry to space the words, but it won't let me post his name for some reason. heart attack. sad sad sad. i'd wager most sandfans would appreciate this mississippi writer's novels and stories.

Date: Sat Nov 27 05:44
buxfix (gig in january):

what a wonderful start of 2005 - giant sand in aarhus! travelling to danemark 50 euros, tickets for the show 16 euros, seeing giant sand again -PRICELESS! very happy to make the trip with oke and hoping to see some of the danes in real time!

Date: Sat Nov 27 01:56
John Krajicek (krajicek@tamu.edu):

I haven't heard yet from anyone here in the U.S. re. the Haarlem show vine... thanks to Christoph in Germany, I should have the CD in a week or so, and after I make a copy, I'd be happy to pass it on to the first taker. Just email me at the above address.

Date: Fri Nov 26 16:34
oke (Re weed - Giant Sand in Haarlem 2004 ):

Thanks to Martin from the Netherlands I can offer copies of the Giant-Sand-show in Haarlem (10-10-2004) to the first three in Europe who contact me (simons AT foni DOT net)and promise to re-weed. It's a good audience recording and I'll send it with artwork. Greetings from Flensburg, near the border to Denmark and only 180 kilometers away from Aarhus ;-) Oke

Date: Fri Nov 26 16:13
tommy gailer (scrolling for rodeohead):

very good, very funny too

Date: Fri Nov 26 15:15
J (Lars Rodeohead):

Had it already. Yes go get it, quality musicianship throughout. Go sandies, go

Date: Fri Nov 26 12:02
Lars (this and thisthat):

Aarhus is a slice of the Howe context too. ;-) We gots da right cobblestones, ha-ha! ### Anyone into both bluegrass and Radiohead. Download this one: http://www.hardnphirm.com/music/Rodeohead.mp3 --- Damn, it's funny!!! Best medley I've ever heard, I think. / Lars

Date: Fri Nov 26 10:04
wind swept (home grown home boy howe):

What can be better than Giant Sand in Århus on a saturday? How about Giant Sand in Tucson on a Saturday. Sorry, but it's all about context.

Date: Fri Nov 26 08:52
Lars (Jæj! :-D):

That's great news, Torben. Thanks! Tonight...at the same venue: Under Byen and Jomi Massage. It'll be a blast. For those liking early PJ Harvey Jomi Massage might be something, I dunno. -- www.jomimassage.dk -- Starring in the role as "the listener" this evening: LARS! Greets all around! / Lars

Date: Thu Nov 25 13:35
TDH ((Giant Sand Århus...YES)):

Taken from Voxhall's homepage.... ""GIANT SAND (US) Genre Billetnet E-billet Entré Koncertstart Alternativ Rock Køb billet Køb billet 120,- 29. Jan, kl. 21:00"" What can be better than Giant Sand in Århus on a saturday ?

Date: Thu Nov 25 04:33
stefan ((hi mike: never gonna leave)):

... will be with you soon. ;-) Vague? Us?

Date: Thu Nov 25 04:27
mike ((swiss not sa-wa-ro)):

Jörg, reg. Rubigen: they played "love knows no borders", "i did not" and "paradise" (the last two with lousy audience participation, including me :-( ). No "Never gonna leave", would love to hear that. cheers mike

Date: Thu Nov 25 04:14
stefan ((ah, and by the way, I'm living only 1 mile from the Hofbräuhaus...)):

... but many miles from the Wunderbar Hofbrauhaus which I'd much prefer on a Monday night (or any night, for that matter).

Date: Thu Nov 25 04:09
stefan (((very qualified reviewer))):

From a review of Calexico's World Drifts In DVD in songlines magazine (27): "When multi-instrumentalist Joey B. and drumer John C. took time out from Howe Gelb's Big Sand to create Calexico in 1997, they never expected their side project to take on its own life."

Date: Wed Nov 24 22:05
todd (Insight):

...regarding Kate's music. I would say it's sorta ah Northern Canadian style. She hails from Sudbury, Ontario. I like her songwriting, honest words and great articulation...but different from Neko. Turns out Kate Maki will be coming to western Canada in the new year so I've got another show to look forward to. Hope that helps...I'm not really into describing peoples music.

Date: Wed Nov 24 18:18
alberta al (hugh and todd):

Thanks for the info, and thanks for the offer Todd. I am in jasper myself. I haven't been to Edmonton since I saw Calexico at the sidetrack during the jazz fest in june. How would you describe Kate's musical style? Is she country ala Neko Case? I just picked up Neko Case's latest live cd. Also bought Cat Power you are free at the same time, it is getting played more often currently.

Date: Wed Nov 24 17:27
hugh (todd/kate maki):

seems you beat me to the punch but glad for the up to date info-thanks much

Date: Wed Nov 24 17:24
hugh (alberta al/re kate maki):

I saw Kate Maki open for Howe and Oh Susanah in Toronto last Dec.-Unfortunately missed half of her set as she wasn't listed on the bill -glad to be reminded that she very well might be worth checking out-about a month or two after that show did see a feature on her in a local paper.If I remember correctly she hails from Ottawa,Canada and has had her first album released-I think independantly but really can't remember the details.The journalist did praise the album quite highly though.

Date: Wed Nov 24 17:17
todd (kate maki crush +):

re: Kate Maki...over a recent e-mail she told me that she sings on the upcoming Howe/Giant Sand album...most likely the Gospel record. She just finished her second album and will be releasing it @ katemaki.com and @ her Canadian shows. I'm into her 'Confusion Unlimited' and also recommend her. Also it turns out that I'll be hosting a weekly dj night of local indie, Americana, 12" Reggae & other non-crap music. I wanted to call it 'One More Should do it' or 'Naturally Lonesone' Mondays from the first Blacky record but in a discussion w/ the mangers they wanted 12" Mondays. I'll jot down a playlist from a night and share em...Hey Al(berta)...drive down one monday and hang out. Here's more info...Wunderbar Hofbrauhaus 8120 - 101 Street Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.

Date: Wed Nov 24 15:17
stefan (((Hunziken and Glennie))):

Hi Jörg, see Jim's post below: "Edited as per his (Howe's) request." ... And yes, Evelyn Glennie is the deaf percussionist. Strangely, I hadn't heard of her before. The film is a portrait of her a little in the style of "Step Across the Border" about Fred Frith (who's also featured).

Date: Wed Nov 24 15:00
Jörg (Rubingen setlist):

I just noticed that the recent Rubingen-show, which is available for download at archive.org, doesn't include any of the great new songs (Paradise, But I did not, Never gonna leave). Now I wonder if they were edited out because Howe didn't want to make them 'officially' available pre-release or if they didn't even were performed, maybe for the same reasons (because the show was filmed for TV)?..............Stefan: Evelyn Glennie - isn't she that (famous?) deaf percussionist? Think I saw her once perform with Björk (at some kind of 'Unplugged' show, if memory serves me well).

Date: Wed Nov 24 13:58
alberta al (kate maki):

I was reading an interview with Howe, he mentioned the name Kate Maki as someone he thought was worth a listen. Is anyone familiar with her?

Date: Wed Nov 24 11:34
stefan ((bmg, touch the sound)):

Hm, I've never thought that "Blue Marble Girl" was an image for planet Earth, but as Howe often said "this is a song about your home town" in various places wherever he played it, this might well be the case. ........... Something else: I saw the movie "Touch the sound" about Evelyn Glennie yesterday and can only recommend it most urgently. My sense of hearing was altered when I left the theater. Weird.

Date: Wed Nov 24 11:11
Alan (BMG/RCB):

Hi all, first of all... have I gone back and listened to blue marble girl before posting this? Well, no, but that's not going to stop me. It is perhaps my childhood in 1970s and my goal of being a professional environmentalist that lead me to always see the to see the picture of earth from space -- a blue marble, eh? -- whenever I hear the tune... just another girl, however iconic for the singer of the song, from/of the planet. As to red cap boy, that's about as iconic/generic an image of an american (male) kid as I can think of. I've always heard the song as grounded in the relations/tensions between these two iconic images and assumed that their iconic status means that each persons interpretation of their meaning is deeply personal/highly contingent as a result. Thinking WAY too much again, Alan

Date: Wed Nov 24 10:40
http://mansiononthehill.biz (Mark Johnson) (sonicspacealien@yahoo.com):

To the guy who was looking for a good name for a Giant Sand cover band, I suggest The Sandbaggers. There was a good British spy show from the 70s by that name as well. *** I feel a tad bemused for non-native English speakers who try to learn English from Giant Sand. Good luck, you'll need it. *** Speaking of Bible Black, King Crimson had an an interest album from the 70s entitled Starless and Bible Black. They also had a great song of that same name off the album "Red." Very 70s, very proggy.

Date: Wed Nov 24 09:46
Garry ssssonjes (Meet blue marble girl and 100's others tonight):

so i have recovered from the things that made me cross eyed. look what i found on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=53511&item=5340709112&rd=1 . Lars had better get his bid in soon. hey lars!!!!!! also if you want to hate me which most people here would do if it wasnt for there pesky indi race records lovething image tyres for wet thing that happens. so visit www.stationforshrewsbury.co.uk/music.htm and listen to track 1 tell me what you thank and i'll go away leaveing this suburbain outlet of in homoerotic viynal collection in pieces. thanks glue

Date: Wed Nov 24 08:48
Frank C (bmg etc.):

Thanks to all for sharing their thoughts on bmg (and translating some words my dictionary forgot)! My interpretation of the blue marble girl is that she and her red cap boy are fairy tale characters (remember the bmg intro on "confluence" spoken by saholi?). Maybe some guardian angels of your home town which welcome you everytime you return and walk through the well known streets of your childhood...

Date: Wed Nov 24 05:09
Jörg (poetry & vocabulary):

Nice topic you brought up, Frank. And great replys & additions by Mike & FLynn! I guess sometimes it's better not to know too much - until now I thought 'bible black' and 'black ice' to be poetic creations by Howe - didn't know the first one is a rather common expression and the latter has a rather profane meaning (which makes the resulting unwrapping a little less romantic). The famous Dylan quote springs to mind (from a mid-sixties press conference).Q: Can you tell us what your songs are about? A: Well, some are about 4 minutes, some about 5 minutes and one even about 11 minutes.

Date: Wed Nov 24 04:55
mike ([b.m.g.]):

.... and our take on "blue marble girl" is that as the song is about drugs (crystal meth), the blue marble relates to the veins on the pale skin, and the red cap boy is the dealer.......... ah whatever..

Date: Tue Nov 23 19:56
mike ([4 frank c]):

... "i often have no idea what Howe is singing about" .... yeah right, you, me and the rest of the world included...... but who cares!!... the words are great! i never really listened to lyrics much in the past, but with howe, they work on two levels (for me anyhow)...they're the notes of the throat.. as made by an instrument... but also they're a poem/story/lyric/song/whatever that have these wonderful words contained in them, and in such a fascinating order (but not always the correct order)...... and believe me, these things aren't at all obvious to english speaking people.......... which reminds me, do you guys remember that morecombe and wise sketch with andre previn, where eric's playing the piano (badly) and andre says he's playing the wrong notes, and eric replies "i'm playing all the right notes, but not necessarily in the right order"......... anyway, "starless and bible black" is how dylan thomas descibes 'the night' in "under milk wood"... (wouldn't it of been great if dylan named his son thomas!... but i suppose he'd be tom zimmerman then...which wouldn't have been as much fun) ..so, now, don't take this literal... but don't take the lyrics literal..

Date: Tue Nov 23 16:30
J (Flynn):

Cheers, hesitated to say ghetto myself. But that's the way I perceived the lyrics years ago. Blue marble girl sounds like a woman known to whoever listens to the song to me. Subjective. All you German folks, Danish, wherever, your grasp of English is enough to keep you hooked and thar be the crux of the flux of what kept me hooked on Howes stuff since long ago. Drunk, obviously, It's Friday night for me...

Date: Tue Nov 23 16:04
phil (phil):

why dont you write down some of the lyrics and add them to some lyrics pages - only about then or so are to be find at the internet

Date: Tue Nov 23 15:48
hugh (frank c):

frank c-while i don't know what the lyrics to a lot of songs might mean it is usually certain phrases and the music itself that catch my ear .however i always took blue marble girl to mean this planet earth and the red cowboy to represent the planet mars.but i guess only howe knows for sure

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Date: Tue Nov 23 14:48
Flynn (word play):

Barrio is a Spanish term for "district," but in coloquial Spanglish it usually refers to a Spanish speaking neighborhood, sometimes a ghetto. Bible black is a common description for a dark shade of black, since bibles were (are?) bound in black leather. By invoking the bible, it adds some severity, I think. Jeff Tweedy also uses the term in the Wilco tune 'I am Trying to Break Your Heart': 'I want to hold you in the bible-black predawn . . . ' Howe writes on more than one level, so even for folks whose first language is English, I think it can be tough to settle on one specific "meaning" for some word choices. It's one of the things I love about Giant Sand. He's constantly playing with word sounds and meanings and many times I've heard new meanings in a song I'd heard many times before.

Date: Tue Nov 23 12:50
frank c (bye bye, black ice ):

Dear Just Poetry Man, the info that no one else knows what a blue marble girl would be worth my question. it´s just that i want to know the meaning to such words and references which are obvious to native speakers. i remember some Giant Sand shows where Howe at some point asked the audience: "do you have any idea what this song means?". and then there´s this remarable lecture on "pontiac slipstream" during a show in london with matt ward, when Howe played the song from discman and explained the meaning to every line... so, interpretations from others (native speakers are not) are always welcome, not only on "bmg" and "bible black". by the way, the other day (after spinning the down home 04) i accidently discovered what "black ice" really means. i alway have been amazed by the picture of a black coloured field of ice on the Arizona roads - maybe from leaking oil tubes. then i was slightly disappointed that it´s only the common term for a slippery ice surface.

Date: Tue Nov 23 11:25
christoph (re:giant sand @ haarlem 10/10/04 vine (chrbeckmann@aol.com):

haven't got the cd yet, but I already got one taker:look for john-christopher-krajicek@neo.tamu.edu to keep the vine going in the us for the people from the old world: I got two more copies to send to the first two people to contact me (chrbeckmann@aol.com) with the promise to keep the weed going

Date: Tue Nov 23 11:08
J (barrio):

Ain't that the old mexican built part of town in Howe's neck of the woods?

Date: Tue Nov 23 10:36
just (poetry, man):

Dear Just Curious: Okay, it is true that there is such a thing as cultural reference and language idiom, etc., etc., but maybe you're being too analytical and/or too objective. Maybe no one else knows what a blue marble girl is any more than you do. The cultural backdrop you bring to such a poetic term may just have as many interesting spider webs of meaning as does anyone else's. If you really want to know what it is, man, explore what it might mean in your own world. But having said all that rot and rave, how about a girl with eyes like blue marbles?

Date: Tue Nov 23 10:35
Martin (rappard@dds.nl):

For those interested in Giant Sand shows - the show below will be sent out tomorrow (on CD-R) to the following people who will offer it back to the board, time permitting. Feel free to contact them in advance for a copy, but ONLY if you can make copies for others. finvarra@chariot.net.au chrbeckmann@aol.com simons@foni.net Infinite thanks to Stefan Roehrich for all his help (cables, guest list, a superb transfer job and so much more). Giant Sand - 2004-10-10, Roots Of Heaven Festival, Patronaat, Haarlem, AUD MID MST, 44, none 1. intro music / Napoli 2. Uneven Light Of Day 3. Trickle Down System 4. NYC Of Time 5. Neon Filler 6. The Inner Flame 7. Rainer - Life Is Fine (DVD) 8. Chore Of Enchantment 9. The Muss Of Paradise 10. Love Knows No Borders 11. Classico / band introduction Recording by Martin van Rappard (rappard@dds.nl) and transfer by Stefan Roehrich (stefanroehrich@t-online.de): front center stage (0.5 metre from Howe) - Marantz EM-8 - Sharp IM-DR420H and Pioneer MJ-D707 - optical cable - Hoontech DSP24 Value - WaveLab SE (track marking only) - CD-R, slight overload in 2 (2:28-2:40)

Date: Tue Nov 23 09:37
frank c (who´s that girl?):

As I mentioned sometime ago in a comment I often have no idea what Howe is singing about though I understand most words and of course notice and admire this special "Howe flow" of putting words together. Reading in the dictionary often doesn´t help (I couldn´t find words like "barrio" etc.). I guess this must be ridiculous for some but, for example, I really would like to know what/who a Blue Marble Girl is (and maybe the "red cap boy" as well) and what this has to do with Howe´s home town. And what is a "robe of the bible black"? Is a "bible black" the same as a black bible or.... Any help available? Just curious.

Date: Tue Nov 23 05:56
cover (band):

Call it Giant Glue and get it done with.

Date: Tue Nov 23 04:53
glue (giant cover hands):

some time ago i sujested supporting giant sand with a cover band and you people all lept on my throat like lions eat gloves!!! i am real eee taking your atitude personaly/ i would sujjest calling your band giant fan / and hope that the elite reclusisivtiy of the natured captivity held long enough to alow for a trasatlantic crossing. on other notes i see we are all setteling in nicely to flow, how dull. Sorry to hear of your recentl loss Ell Gleb's seems like life and death are puppets in the dark.

Date: Tue Nov 23 04:37
alberta al (herenorthere.net):

the sandstorm, cover magazine, the thinline men, warm storm,

Date: Tue Nov 23 03:40
Conch (cover band moniker):

Uh...how's about The Gelbsters. Or...why not...The Gelb Sisters. Or just Gelbicle. The Mountains of Love? Hmmmmmmmmmm...

Date: Tue Nov 23 02:53
Tommy Gailer (sandman scroller):

i even have sandman`s debut "Western Blood"...like it.

Date: Tue Nov 23 02:34
Lars (The Sandmen):

Well, as long as you don't play in Denmark... http://www.dr.dk/musik/rock/artikel/030918_sandmen_profil.asp ;-) / Lars

Date: Tue Nov 23 02:06
cover (name):

The Sandmen

Date: Tue Nov 23 01:07
Tim (cover band name):

The Cousins of Blacky Ranchette

Date: Tue Nov 23 00:15
John Krajicek (jkrajicek@cox-internet.com):

Here's one you fine folks might find amusing. After adding yet another Howe cover to my band's already Howe-laden repertoire, my wife suggested that we start a side project as (presumably) the world's first Howe tribute band. She suggested the name Tiny Sand... not bad, but I'm currently favoring the name WWHD. SO... I hereby solicit your suggestions for the name of said band idea. What think ye?

Date: Mon Nov 22 18:56
finn (hayden (again)):

Yep, skyscraper is also my favourite, great anytime but sunday morning coming down inparticular...

Date: Mon Nov 22 12:02
http://mansiononthehill.biz (Mark Johnson) (sonicspacealien@yahoo.com):

Any word on whether "Mope-A-Long" is going to be included in the latest incarnation of the game Hitman? Is this for real?!?

Date: Sun Nov 21 23:20
alberta al (mountain land.com):

Thanks for the info folks.

Date: Sun Nov 21 16:35
love songs (and other out-of-print sand CDs):

I seem to remember talk about plans to re-release these (in remastered form?) sometime soon - any updates on this front?

Date: Sun Nov 21 16:29
love songs (and other out-of-print sand CDs):

I seem to remember talk about plans to re-release these (in remastered form?) sometime soon - any updates on this front?

Date: Sun Nov 21 13:42
Søren (DK):

Go to http://www.musicweb.com/cgi-musicweb/cheap_cds_search.cgi?search_field=giant+sand - to find the love songs on cassette. Only three dollars Go to http://shopping.yahoo.com/p:Giant%20Sand:1927009777 to buy the love songs cd - 14 dollars.

Date: Sun Nov 21 12:40
Jennifer L Lowe (jennl17@hotmail.com):

howe gelb, sands, and co.: howe, it was great meeting you in seattle at the tractor, and i was more than happy to give you the info re: radio station in my home state of montana (also f'n happy to know they've been playing gs!). at any rate, i'm so sorry to hear of the loss in your family. Please know my thoughts are with you and your loved ones. I had planned to leave for holland tomorrow (mon. the 22), but due to my own crappy health (you might remember the crutch), i cancelled. i'm wishing you all the best, and hope to cross paths again someday. oh - also, tallulah would fit in perfectly in missoula...trust me. best wishes, j. lowe

Date: Sat Nov 20 22:21
alberta al (stiff mountain breeze@jasper.ca):

Can anyone tell me if the love songs is available anymore? I just lost out on ebay, the seller would not ship to canada. I recently purchased all over the map, currently really liking the second version of classico.

Date: Sat Nov 20 18:36
Todd (Dallas & Travis Good):

...ok it was great show. I took 30 digital pictures. Got everyone from The Sadies to sign a show poster. Then after the show I talked w/ Travis, Dallas and Sean Dean (Bass)...too much r-wine...I should know better.

Date: Sat Nov 20 09:28
Flynn (Rubigen):

the Rubigen weed is now closed.

Date: Fri Nov 19 21:27
Todd (off the hear/see the sadies):

...I loved selecting inner flame and Junkpile. Naturally Lonesome and Classico reprise.

Date: Fri Nov 19 18:25
Lars (Hayden):

Started listening to Hayden back at the debut "Everything I Long For" in the mid-90s. That cd is for me today is still one of my favourite albums. Haven't heard the latest ones, as they are hard to come by over here. The debut is a must, though. And the "hidden tracks" hilarious, by the way. :-) / Lars

Date: Fri Nov 19 18:02
Flynn (Hayden):

I had a chance to host Hayden in-studio on my radio show a few months back and saw him live that night w/ a full band. I have to agree w/ J -- he's definitely worth checking out. Even better than 'Elk Lake Serenade,' I think, is his record 'Skyscraper National Park.' He has a nice live CD out too.

Date: Fri Nov 19 17:01
peter (howe's geartar):

at the nyc gig he played a pink telecaster modded with three pickups. also a gibson archtop style acoustic with thw f-holes. had another glitter guitar onstage that went unused.

Date: Fri Nov 19 16:48
J (SeanT takes credit for the video link):

Hope you got it to work mate... Blaine and james S and not only but also everyone else heard Elk lake serenade by Hayden? Top tunes, a find like M Ward, rare these days. Hope Howe, Sophie and family r bearing up. Mike what's the weather likely to be in yr neck of tha woods in late feb? (Traditionally I mean) mail me offsite for a booking probably. Cheers

Date: Fri Nov 19 08:19
Flynn (Rubigen):

The Rubigen Euro-weed is closed with copies heading to Scotland and Belgium. If you're in the US, I can do one more.

Date: Fri Nov 19 05:47
stefan ((archive.org etc.)):

I'm in the process of downloading the Hunziken show and offer a few copies for people without broadband connections. Drop me a line at: stefanmuc2001 at yahoo dot com. Thanks a lot, Jim (& Howe, of course), for making it available. And hey Jim, more shows from the recent European tour will be coming your way soon. ..... And now for something completely different (for the German sandos): there's a fantastic interview with James Last (!!!) in the November issue of the free Intro magazine. Really.

Date: Fri Nov 19 01:22
Jennifer Welch (blindredtitch@yahoo.com):

Loved the Howeloweeeen show in S.F. Thanks for another utterly different gelbian sound.... Jennifer

Date: Thu Nov 18 22:03
Flynn (again):

BTW, thanks Jim & Howe for getting such a recent show up at archive.org.

Date: Thu Nov 18 22:00
Flynn (Rubigen):

I can send copies of the Oct 15 Rubigen CDs to 2 folks. Contact me at wmpgfarm@yahoo.com

Date: Thu Nov 18 20:20
archivist (archive.org):

Perhaps folks with a fast connection can make copies for those stuck in the 90's - I mean those w/out broadband connections.. Blanks and postage..

Date: Thu Nov 18 18:32
PaulK (link for Tucson weekly article):

http://www.tucsonweekly.com/gbase/Currents/Content?oid=oid:62987

Date: Thu Nov 18 18:09
Blaine (gtrs/video?):

A guess in the new clip would be steel body National; Harmony/Silvertone f-hole acoustic and maybe a Dobro or a small body National electric. Ropes is prob H/S f-hole and maybe that's an old parlour Martin. Was the red Gretsch in there too? Nice old steel gtr also. If you ever get to Tucson spend an afternoon in the Chicago Store - tons of funky old gear.

Date: Thu Nov 18 16:30
Razz (sunbursting sun):

Does anybody here know which guitars Howe is playing? Branch and model? He's got this great looking semi-acoustic, it could be a gibson, but not I'm not certain.

Date: Thu Nov 18 16:28
Razz (rabupost@hotmail.com):

Does anybody here know which guitars Howe is playing? Branch and model? He's got this great looking semi-acoustic, it could be a gibson, but not I'm not certain.

Date: Thu Nov 18 12:27
shammy (mt):

Howe, our condolences, Sean & Melissa

Date: Thu Nov 18 10:53
Greg ((as Tom mentioned)):

Howe's made the BIG TIMES with a front page article in the Tucson Weekly. I imagine the cover of Rolling Stone can't be too far behind. http://www.tucsonweekly.com/gbase/Cover/index

Date: Thu Nov 18 10:48
Lars (Mike - download):

I think about a long afternoon or so, I dunno. Got 512/256 here. Which isn't the fastest thing around, but a sprinter compared to regular modems. / Lars

Date: Thu Nov 18 10:14
james s (thanks J):

those vidies are a treat.

Date: Thu Nov 18 09:36
Blaine (Mike):

DSL is PDQ -- it seems like a commercial site, but the vidoes stream pretty good.

Date: Thu Nov 18 08:26
tom (front desk):

Nice article on the Guvnor in this weeks Tucson Weekly.Check it out on their webpage.

Date: Thu Nov 18 03:46
mike ([sa-wa-ro]):

this archive.org thing...? (http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=19715) .... it'd take me over 60 hours to download this/these files, which isn't viable for me. now i know i live in the back of beyond, where no road (or broadband) goes.... but how's it for other folk? what sort of download times does it take for you.....?

Date: Thu Nov 18 01:37
Greg ((for Tom)):

Muchas Gracias!

Date: Wed Nov 17 23:30
Blaine (videos):

Wow

Date: Wed Nov 17 21:34
J (well out on yer ropes.):

Hope the folk I told can look at it. http://launch.yahoo.com/artist/default.asp?artistID=1010209 Once again.

Date: Wed Nov 17 07:30
tom ( greg):

i should be able to get some art over to bicas befoe sunday.

Date: Wed Nov 17 07:27
tom (front desk):

Howe and Sofie, sad to hear the news,big hugs to the both of you.

Date: Wed Nov 17 05:03
SeanT (Videos on launch):

Ok anyone know how to view these videos on a Mac ? http://launch.yahoo.com/artist/default.asp?artistID=1010209 It tells me to download Netscape 4.7 , but I use OSX and this version of Netscape does not work on OSX...

Date: Tue Nov 16 19:26
todd (Rainer cd's / selecting / viewing the Listener Coffee companion video portion):

...other than someone stealing another bike of mine my past 24 hours have been good. I just received two Rainer cd's from Patti K... great addition to my collection and good timing because I've got two fill-in radio shows to do this week. Last night I auditioned for a night selecting at a bar and they only had the turntables working so I utilized the songs 'Center of The Universe' (Gelb) and 'Polena' (Burns) on 7" vinyl. Other than that I went to my friends recording studio and viewed/heard the Listener's Coffee Companion. Cool editing by Amy Harrington...I think it would make a nice December holiday gift. My recording engineer/producer friend who has recorded Howe really like the companion...he was humming 'Lie There'. From Northern Alberta...sorry to here of your loss.

Date: Tue Nov 16 19:01
olis (liso):

you´re welcome bro!

Date: Tue Nov 16 18:59
Flynn (thanks):

thanks for the link to the 'remote' video.very cool. Howe, my sincerest condolences to you and yers. I hope the smiles you brought to me last week in Boston return to you a hundred-fold as you remember and celebrate the life of your mother in-law.

Date: Tue Nov 16 17:19
olis (liso):

yeah the remote video is quite hard to find onthe internet, though i found it http://launch.yahoo.com/artist/default.asp?artistID=1010209, including yer ropes. Go watch'em . All thoughts go to the Gelb family!

Date: Tue Nov 16 17:16
olis (liso):

yeah the remote video is quite hard to find onthe internet, though i found it http://launch.yahoo.com/artist/default.asp?artistID=1010209, including yer ropes. Go watch'em . All thoughts go to the Gelb family!

Date: Tue Nov 16 15:07
Greg Haldane ((for Tom Walbank)):

Tom, any chance that you could donate some bicycle-related art to the BICAS art auction this Sunday?

Date: Tue Nov 16 15:06
Greg Haldane (gmhaldane@hotmail.com):

Has the Drunken Bees DVD been released yet? If Marianne is on board - I have a great picture of Naim taken during the All Souls Procession this year that I can send you.

Date: Tue Nov 16 14:57
archivist (Remote video):

Shot by Bill Carter in the Gelb's backyard. I did the audio for it (though not credited). Hope to see it someday myself :)

Date: Tue Nov 16 11:43
SeanT (Richard):

Richard , the only video of Howe I seen is the Coffee companion thing , that MTV show is on far too late in the day. The only Rainer I have seen was on the big screen at Bush Hall . I'd love a GS / Howe DVD and a Rainer one would also go down very well , ....Patti ??

Date: Tue Nov 16 10:20
richard (richardperrins@hotmail.com):

Hi, thanks for all the Rainer info, i shall be paving my way into what shall undoubtedly will be a long new love affair shortly, probably with the live album that has been recommended. Also as point of interest i was watching on British digital TV a show called this is Americana and to my AMAZEMENT there were two Videos with our man Howe himself featuring. The first was a great and slightly dsiturbing video for Lie there from the listener, where Howe is watching TV. And then to my further joy they played an acoustic version of Remote with the new line up playing live but with John Parish on drums. The photos in the sleeve for 'Map' are obviously taken from the same day. The only Giant Sand video i have seen and have been aware of previously was yer ropes and i couldn't believe it when these songs came on TV. Was anyone else aware of these (am i just embarrasingly out of touch) and are there anymore? DVD DVD DVD DVD DVD?

Date: Tue Nov 16 09:38
lilly de haan (ljdehaan@dds.nl):

Dear Howe, Sorry to hear the sad news about your loss. I send my condolences to Sofie, you and your children. Take care and best wishes in this sad time. Lilly de Haan Amsterdam Netherlands

Date: Tue Nov 16 05:13
SeanT (Rainer):

I think if I was going to suggest a Rainer "starter" LP , I would go for the live one . It's a stunner , often to be heard drifting out of the cottage in Epping Forest on a Sunday morning .But I think once you hear that you'll be on the site buying the lot.

Date: Tue Nov 16 04:25
Lars (Zelda Panda zoundz - with a pinch of Lars):

I put up the first demo of fellow "sandie" Zelda Panda on my website (with permission of course). This time the sounds go out under the name of Marzipan Marzipan. The Hank Williams cover was recorded in Aarhus last year with the assistance of yours truly (on helpless guitar). The cello was added later. The Berliner panda also contributed to the Fandango, as you might remember. Knock yourself out with mp3 downloads on this address: http://www.larsdideriksen.com/personal/music/mp3-marzipan.htm --- I guess any comments are welcome. ;-D Best greets! / Lars - whose personal favourites so far are track 2 and 5.

Date: Mon Nov 15 19:23
J (moorwood):

I'll send u a pic of the gamh shirt eebay only other bidder. See your hospitality before the spring hopefully. Usual drunk post, just heard Ricky Gelb and Johnette N***politano sounds like an ice cream Italian style (SP) Someone's left alone. Now heading into Om Vinteren. Cheers Lars, and all the good folk who reside in the sandthang. House is haunted, but only by a ghost.

Date: Mon Nov 15 18:12
mike ([sa-wa-ro]):

you can, of course, get the rainer cd's here..... http://www.giantsand.com/rainer/rainer-page.htm

Date: Mon Nov 15 17:34
http://mansiononthehill.biz (Mark Johnson) (sonicspacealien@yahoo.com):

I just checked out the new Rainer page. There are still a few pages that aren't up yet or aren't compatable with my browser(Patti's page and the contact page). Still what a treasure! I did a feature on it on my web blog(http://mansiononthehill.biz) which will hopefully generate some traffic to the site. Thank you Patti!

Date: Mon Nov 15 16:54
archivist (NLT..):

So far...

Date: Mon Nov 15 16:53
archivist (NLT...):

There are two Nick Luca Trio sets avaliable at archive.org..

Date: Mon Nov 15 15:55
sean ((up here in the winter)):

A great show in Boston, very nice indeed, all my thoughts also go out to Howe and his family, I also discovered another Tucson family tree member in Nick Luca just the other day via a friend, Nick now has two albums out, One at Loose Records and another at In the sticks Records, Im really enjoying the jazz-i-ness of them both.

Date: Mon Nov 15 15:16
geoff (in austin):

please travel safely and add my condolences to the list here on the comments page.

Date: Mon Nov 15 14:31
peter (nyc):

raineroftucson.com is a true treasure, thanks pattti! and howe and family i am so sorry; my condolences and prayers to all of you and remember that she will never leave your hearts.

Date: Mon Nov 15 13:22
SeanT (Condolences):

and also my thoughts to Howe and his family , best wishes.

Date: Mon Nov 15 12:47
SeanT (Rainer):

which Rainer LP to buy ? All of them.......

Date: Mon Nov 15 08:22
Jörg (life is fine solo-version):

Have to correct myself: "Worried Spirits" includes an acoustic version of "Life Is Fine".

Date: Mon Nov 15 08:07
Jörg (Richard):

The song Rainer performed was "Life Is Fine". The unbelievable electric version of this song (my favourite Rainer track) can be found on "Barefoot Rock With...". Don't know if an acoustic version is available on an official release. Otherwise "Live at the Performance Center" would be a great start, as it captures the spirit you witnessed watching that Jools Holland performance pretty well. And "Alpaca Lips" is my favourite Rainer studio-album.........................And my condolences to the Gelb family, too. Sad news...

Date: Mon Nov 15 06:47
Richard (richardperrins@hotmail.com):

Firstly, condolences to the Gelb family in the wake of another sad loss. Secondly, i've decided that i need to buy my first Rainer album but i have no idea where to start. At Bush Hall there was an interlude where they played a Rainer performance on the BBC's later with Jools Holland and the song blew me away. It eclipsed everything that the Sand were doing on stage (which was fantastic). I can't remember the name of the song but i figured whatever album that was off would be a good start. So if anyone can recommend an album to start with and where to get it i would be most grateful. The most melancholic would probably suit me best. I've been on the new website and have seen that you can order the cd's from there. but i'm not sure if you can order to the UK.

Date: Sun Nov 14 23:25
Blaine (Home):

Howe - Sorry to hear the sad news of your loss, Blaine.

Date: Sun Nov 14 23:18
will (w31162r@suscom.net):

Peace be with you all.

Date: Sun Nov 14 22:21
todd (#3):

Is all Over...the Map is now #3 on cjsr.com music...selected Napoli and A Live Muss earlier this weekend.

Date: Sun Nov 14 20:19
phill (ghog22077@msn.com):

Howe, I send my condolences to Sophie and you and the kids, (travel fairly well) season cycle, The