2001 July to December

Date: Mon Dec 31 12:25
christine, diane, anne (amsterdams finest):

thanks for a year of great music, live and not. WE WISH YOU AN INCREDIBLY GOOD NEW YEAR !!! looking forward hearing, seeing you and listening to your gardening again! enjoy! and yaah, peace and love to all !!!!!!!!! kisses and hugs from all of us for all of you.......

Date: Mon Dec 31 12:25
kirkland (goodfever@hotmail.com):

From the good ship Oracle, wishing everyone great joy and providence in the next of new years...2002. Had a great time at the almost new years Giant Sand show in Tucson night before last. Recorded most of it, and have uploaded a few tunes to the orthanc site. Peace and love...Ciao' out!...Kirkland

Date: Mon Dec 31 11:19
e (m):

*********************************************************************** AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! HAPPY 2002!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOVE, EMME

Date: Mon Dec 31 11:18
em (***):

*I've been looking for "Edie" forever with no luck:( now I just want it all the more but yeah-andy warhol's philosophy is great-especially the part about Edie:)

Date: Mon Dec 31 09:11
howe (home):

hi. i hope you all have a wonderul night tonight and a better year ahead. peace and love, more then ever, right here, right now.

Date: Mon Dec 31 09:02
tom (dress codes):

Have a nice one, all of you fine sandy people. Don't forget to dress sharp and jazzy..Best of wishes to all of you.

Date: Mon Dec 31 08:55
james s (kciwegdes eide):

Yes, that Edie Sedgewick by George Plimpton is the same book as the one I mentioned, "Edie by Jean Stein". It's actually by a multitude of folks, I suppose, lots of things edited together by people associated with Edie and Warhol. Fun reading. It's worth buying (or checking out of the library) just for the stuff Truman Capote has to say about Andy Warhol. Funny stuff. Hope everyone has a fun time this evening, and HAPPY NEW YEARS (eve) to all.

Date: Mon Dec 31 08:53
matthewmatics ((chowyunmat)):

BORSTAL BOY by Brendan Behan is a fantastic tale of growing up. Also, for all you Murakami heads, his main translator, Jay Rubin, has a book out about him early next year - Murakami, The Music of Words. Great title, I think you'll all agree!

Date: Mon Dec 31 07:24
Blaine (@work):

Em -- if you are still on the hunt here's a few biographies that come to mind: Really the Blues by Mezz Mezzrow; Edie Sedgewick by George Plimpton; Beneath the Underdog by Charles Mingus; If they Move, Kill 'em (Sam Peckinpah - not sure of the author)

Date: Mon Dec 31 06:08
erwin (wishing):

well.. time is here to dress sharp.. may O2 contain a lot of that! have a good one all!

Date: Sun Dec 30 21:37
e (m):

**Well, Erwin-you've sold me! That's a great name:)

Date: Sun Dec 30 19:13
erwin (_- again -_):

oh, and 'how bluegrass music destroyed my life' by john fahey will crack you up! everyone here, if you haven't already -- try to get a hold of that one!

Date: Sun Dec 30 18:50
erwin (_-):

em.. say the bookstores were all closed today and you would want to wander off again tomorrow. 'my last sigh' by luis buñuel. a book i 'lent out' once -- never seen it again.. an absolute must for a book written by a filmmaker. honest passionate revealing surreal..

Date: Sun Dec 30 17:17
e (m*):

wow! ask and ye shal recieve..thanks y'all! better wrangle up some more money once again..Hey, james-I read positively fourth street sort of by accident& it was sort of interesting--made me feel mighty sorry for joan baez. also, did you know mimi died a short time ago? well I'm off to buy a book or two:)

Date: Sun Dec 30 17:02
james s (Re: bio):

I enjoyed the biography Karen Armstrong did on Buddha for the Penguin Lives series. There's a bunch of interesting looking stuff in that series of biographies. I just bought the one on Dante, but haven't read it yet. My wife is reading Edie by Jean Stein and is enjoying it. I'm reading Positively 4th Street by David Hajdu which is sort of a biography , I guess, ( about Joan and mimi Baez, Dylan, and Richard Farina in the early sixties) and it's kind of fun.

Date: Sun Dec 30 15:41
Mitch (last one really, I promise):

Don't think it's in-print any longer, but if you can find William S. Barring-Gould's fictional biography of Sherlock Holmes (Sherlock Holmes of Baker St. it's called), I'd say snatch it up. It's written like a straight forward and well-researched biography, as if ol' Holmes had been born and lived to be 103 on his bee farm in Sussex (no clue is given that this person didn't actually exist). Very clever and deceptive, and apparently hard to find.

Date: Sun Dec 30 15:36
Mitch (once again, sorry):

One last one...which isn't a human biography as such, but a biography none the less and quite interesting: Alfred K. Mann's Shadow Of A Star (the neutrino story of supernova 1987a).

Date: Sun Dec 30 15:34
Mitch (again):

Just remembered...one of the best biographies I've ever read was Ray Monk's Ludwig Wittgenstein: The Duty of Genius. Also, Robert Kennedy & His Times by Arthur M. Schlesinger. Seems I'm falling way short of putting any women in here, so perhaps someone else can cover the other half of the sky a little better. Oh, yeah, In Exile From The Land Of Snows by John F. Avedon, which is the definitive account of the Dalai Lama and Tibet since the Chinese conquest.

Date: Sun Dec 30 15:23
Mitch (My Life As A Log):

Hey, em...tryin' to think of auto/biographies for you. I really liked Peter O'Toole's autobiography, just can't remember it's name. And John Nathan's biography on Mishima (called just Mishima) is fascinating. The Last Tsar: The Life & Death of Nicholas II by Edvard Radzinsky is good.

Date: Sun Dec 30 14:59
lindsey in tucson (lbar9109@aol.com):

hey howe....great night of music here last night ....wanted to thank you for making my friend from modesto who came up to you to profess much love feel so at home...and i think that team of you, naim, walbank, doug smith , and convertino was the winner of the night. thanks again

Date: Sun Dec 30 13:24
**e (mm**):

***A question should you choose to answer. I am in need of a book and am thinking a biography. What's the best and most interesting biography or i guess autobiograohy out there? sand people of inherit good taste! I beacon you:)

Date: Sun Dec 30 12:37
spoink n cranky (gatekeeper):

thanks frak. we will keep the next watch. we never sleep.

Date: Sun Dec 30 11:59
frak (()):

Guess what, bird...no one cares.

Date: Sun Dec 30 10:33
Mitch (taters & tots):

Great show last night at Solar Culture, hard to explain, kinda got going and then stopped and the rumbled some and then slowed--like jump-starting a car that finally roared to full glory. Toward the end of the show, Howe gave Joey his Xmas gift: a magic motion/lava lamp, which then was removed from its packaging and glowed onstage a bit during the concluding "Satellite". Was so good hearing "Sage Advice", and fabulous covers throughout: "The Beat Goes On" indeed. Trains came and went. Pennies got flattened.

Date: Sat Dec 29 13:19
Paul S. (doga@theriver.com):

What happened to Howe last night? I thought he was gonna play?

Date: Sat Dec 29 12:48
di (lucky you, tracey):

you're so right being this happy - enjoy the 'valley of rain/ballad of a thin line man' cd, they are two faaaantastic albums ! the only sad part is that "barrio" one of the greatest giant sand songs, from the 'valley of rain', is not included in this cd...but you can also find it on the first 'giant songs' collection - so, this year is leaving us and the best albums for 2001 aaare: howe-'confluence', nick cave + the bad seeds-'no more shall we part', bob dylan-'love and theft'.....with songs like "3 sisters", "vex(paris)","pedal steel and she'll", "cold" and "available space", 'confluence' turned out to be an amAzing album - that's the great thing about howe's music - from the 1985's 'valley of rain' to the 2001's 'confluence' it never ever ceases to surprise us again and again giving us melodies that will keep us company through the days and the nights, the best and the worse, through our hopes and our dreams - hope it won't be long till the new solo album gets realised that'll be the best gift for the new year to come - mmm m...yeah..can you think of anything better ???? ....I WANNA COME to the giant sand SHOW tonight !!!!!!....but az is sooooo far away...pif!

Date: Sat Dec 29 12:15
Rob Stanier (Robtstanier@aol.com):

James S. The film you caught a little of was Matewan. Great movie. Seems Will was a bit of a child actor at one point. He also crops up in Harmoy Korines Julien Donkey Boy but has spoke of his distaste for the uninteresting roles he was offered early on. Have you seen Requiem For A Dream? No Oldham but great film.

Date: Sat Dec 29 10:53
tracey (happy in halifax-no hurricane):

today on my way back from the market i was drawn to the used cd store. what the heck i'll take a look (like i always do) for some sand action. not expecting to find anything (like i always do) i was humbly surprised to find not only Swerve but also a combo of a Valley of Rain/Ballad of a Thin Line Man! yeehaw. i just had to tell someone! happy holidays to all.

Date: Sat Dec 29 07:03
james bridges (jdzbridges@hotmail.com):

"scenic" was a band based in sedona, az and as far as i know only put out one record in '96..

Date: Sat Dec 29 01:32
geoff (swerve):

Great Calexico show tonight. I wish I could make it to tomorrow's Giant Sand show too. Happy Holidays Howe and co.

Date: Fri Dec 28 18:02
peter s. (to archivist: sandman series):

... jim, the giant sand show i'd really love to see (or hear) again is the one the band played back in nov. 1989 (guess it was): howe, john and mark walton; arena, vienna, austria: a four hour lasting no-shit-forget-all-you-have-heared-before-rock-until-you-drop-kick-ass-convert-your-grandmother-rock-and-roll-set. a show that urges the audience to go outside; buy a guitar, a bass and a drumkit and praise the word: R O C K!

Date: Fri Dec 28 13:16
james s (boo hoo):

have fun all you'uns that are getting to be at Solar Culture this weekend. I'll be housesitting for a friend who has a tv and vcr, catching up on some flick action. Got to see a little bit of a movie on television over there yesterday afternoon about striking west virginia coal miners, starring no other than a young Will Oldham. ha. Listening to Oh Yeah (mingus) as I write. Lovely. Bye.

Date: Fri Dec 28 09:50
Greg Haldane (gmhaldane@hotmail.com):

Thanks for the doggie name suggestions! I will run them by H.R. Puppenstuff and see if he responds to any name in particular. I'm glad to hear that his Howeness will be performing tonight. It would be nice to put some faces with the names that I always see on this board. I will be wearing a red rose in my lapel so that you can recognize me. J/K.

Date: Fri Dec 28 08:41
fracas (kxci):

I'll be there.............

Date: Fri Dec 28 08:34
Archivist (....):

Mr Gelb will join Calexico for tonight's show, but no solo set is planned... Great rehearsals from both Giant Sand and Calexico last night at Solar Culture.. We will broadcast the 1st show live tonight starting at 8:30 PM on KXCI and when it is over we plan on airing the Barbican (most or all of it) from last November.. Thanks Howe!. That will start sometime around 1 AM or so...

Date: Thu Dec 27 17:57
Geoff (Solar Culture show):

I too hope Howe has not cancelled the Friday show...I'll be leaving AZ on Saturday and hope to catch the Friday show before taking off. I'll be driving down from Phx., so if anyone knows for sure please post....i'll check the message board before heading down there...gracias

Date: Thu Dec 27 14:51
j (re:dog-name):

"Slow Cut" (Works best if you live in a shopping cart hut)

Date: Thu Dec 27 12:38
Jim Kotsonas (schlaff@pacbell.net):

Hey all, Hope everyone's holidays have been good and safe so far. Just wondering if there was any artwork still available for the very first "Sandman Series" release. Thanks, and take care. Jim

Date: Thu Dec 27 12:24
Blaine (Pt II):

..not to be too further coincidental, but my ex used to have a pit bull named Mingus.

Date: Thu Dec 27 12:22
Blaine (@work):

Greg -- my black and white Border Collie mutt came from the pound as well. Her name was Sonic (orig in homage to the MC5, but also an apt description of her, as it turned out.) While not a master food thief she could catch veggies before they hit the ground like she had radar. Get her chasing a frisbee and you will tire before he does. Everything they say about dogs are true when it comes to these kind. Nice work.

Date: Thu Dec 27 11:01
Mitch (er...oops...):

Oh, sorry, just saw that you already mentioned what kind of dog. My fault, haven't had my coffee yet.

Date: Thu Dec 27 10:59
james s (Re: Greg):

if you ever have to put one of those lampshade thingies on his neck to keep him from chewing himself up (you've seen those, right?), you could call him Lester.

Date: Thu Dec 27 10:58
Mitch (year of the dog):

Greg, what about "Lester" if he sleeps a lot, or "Faithful" if he comes right to you when you call, or "Catapult" if he zooms after sticks, perhaps "Not Good" for stealing food, or "Francoise" if it somehow fits. Come to think of it, if he chews up a lot around your house you could call him "Hard On Things." What kind of dog did ya get? Did Em end up naming the cat?

Date: Thu Dec 27 10:21
james s (Re: greg):

I don't know if Black Saint is the one or not (shrink writing liner notes), haven't really had the chance to look and listen yet with all of this holiday craziness. I look forward to a peaceful moment to dig into it. I don't know if Howe has cancelled or not for friday at SC. Anyone??

Date: Thu Dec 27 10:17
Greg Haldane (gmhaldane@hotmail.com):

Can anyone think of a good Sand-related name for my new Christmas pound pooch? He's a little black and white border collie mutt. He's a terrible mooch and a master food thief.

Date: Thu Dec 27 10:16
james s (Re:):

well, Gatekeeper, if you were to go back and correct misspellings, it would save me from having to correct myself with a second post everytime I try to say something on this board. (just kidding)

Date: Thu Dec 27 10:15
Greg Haldane (gmhaldane@hotmail.com):

James S, Black Saint and the Sinner Lady is one of my favorite Mingus albums too. Is that the album where his shrink writes the liner notes for him? I've been listening to Ah-Um a lot lately. Me and my little doggie dig it. Anyone know if the Mingus Mts in Arizona are named after Charles? FYI, Mingus was born in Nogales, AZ.

Date: Thu Dec 27 10:07
the gaurdian ((gate keeper)):

Dear James You are correct in your assumtion that there is now facilitation to lean on the deletion of that which has become bothersome. Happy new year. Your pals - Spoink n Cranky

Date: Thu Dec 27 07:22
james s (ARRGGGHHHH!):

...what made frak so mad. that's what I meant to say.

Date: Thu Dec 27 07:18
james s (Yo, Mike...):

... now I see what you mean by "editing". I, for one, am glad to see that you have a tool to prevent someone from abusing and poisoning this board. You've shown patience by waiting until now to use this tool, which suggests you are not quick to censor and won't abuse it. So, as far as I'm concerned, bravo. Of course, some of the continuity is lost and any visitors just reading through the comments might wonder what made frak so made. ha.

Date: Thu Dec 27 06:57
Greg Haldane (gmhaldane@hotmail.com):

Greetings all! Does anyone know if Howe has cancelled his appearance this Friday at Solar Culture? My friends Juli/Jay and I were counting on seeing him that night as they are returning home on Saturday after the holidays. Say it ain't so Howe! I would also like to comment on what a great forum this board has become. Even though I haven't contributed much lately I've been actively reading your comments - terrific stuff.

Date: Thu Dec 27 02:42
Guni (snowed in...):

Yes, a very HAPPY NEW YEAR to anybody out there. And to the lucky ones in Tucson (like Mitch): have fun at the Almost-New-Year-Events, I have to admit that I envy you!!!!!

Date: Thu Dec 27 01:36
Sean (URRGGHH !):

Urrgghh ! Back at work already .

Date: Thu Dec 27 01:00
Mitch (Oh...):

And belated Xmas/Holiday greetings to my very extended family here in Sandland. Good knowing you folks are here, and I hope 2002 brings wonderment and all that you deserve & need.

Date: Thu Dec 27 00:57
Mitch (trailways bus turning west):

Sorry, no idea what "Scenic" is, besides certain state-sanctioned highways and biways. All right, in response to an earlier put forth question here--I finally picked through this year's faves and came up with a semi-list (non-Sand/Howe, right?). In no order: The Shins "Oh, Inverted World"; Gillian Welch "Time (The Revelator)"; Ryan Adams "Gold"; Jim White "No Such Place"; Cannibal Ox "The Cold Vein"; Aterciopelados "Gozo Poderoso"; Leonard Cohen "Ten New Songs"; New Order "Get Ready"; Mark Eitzel "The Invisible Man"; Joe Strummer & The Mescaleros "Global A Go-Go"; Gorillaz "Gorillaz"; Bob Dylan "Love & Theft". Of course, really, how can I leave "Confluence" by just Howe out? All right, okay, was hard to pick stuff this year--not sure if 2000 was better, or maybe I've been too busy, but my 2001 batch was harder to sort through. Will say that I think it was a strong year for the old guard, with Dylan, Jagger, & McCartney all putting out decent work.

Date: Wed Dec 26 16:32
j (@the-woodpile):

Very quiet here over the holiday. Much love and understanding goes out to all parents reading this. Out into the frost in the morning:( Does Howe or anyone else from Arizona (Or anywhere) know of a musical experience called 'Scenic'?

Date: Wed Dec 26 07:05
james s (a little frost but no snow):

I hope everyone is having a good holiday season. Hey, Santa must be paying attention to the recommendations for music listed on this message board. He (well, she) brought me Black Saint and Sinner Lady (Mingus) yesterday. As for nonSand in 2001, I didn't hit on too much this year apart from Giant Sand. Musically, Sand has been my monomania in 2001. I've listened to other things I'd not paid much attention to before (silver jews, pavement, friends of d.m., stereolab, sparklehorse, palace, granddaddy, etc...) and liked much of it, but nothing hit me with the impact that Chore did. Backyard BbQ and Hisser too. The Matt Ward record was a good thing. Well, cheers.

Date: Tue Dec 25 23:24
J (lordouch@aol.):

So I finally made it to see Amelie the other day and just in case anyone has been left wondering who the amazing twangstress in the b/w video might be... the credit roll mentions Sister Rosetta Tharpe performing "Up Above My Head". wild. J.

Date: Tue Dec 25 21:17
e (m):

**My the website is looking snazzy--do we get the little falling face things year-round??

Date: Tue Dec 25 09:39
mike (the real me - at home - merry - full - sleepy):

I'd go along with that.....Happy Christmas all..... and thanks to all those who have made it the year it has been.

Date: Tue Dec 25 09:07
howe (home):

HAPPY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE....AND A PEACEFUL NEW YEAR

Date: Tue Dec 25 00:00
Rob Stanier (Robtstanier@aol.com):

To all the friends ive made on this site in the last year or so, have a wonderful Christmas and a prosperous new year. Much love to you and yours. Howe, thanks for another year of class music. Rob, Nat and Thomas Casper(6 weeks now)

Sleep dreams.....more goodies tommorrow.

Date: Mon Dec 24 18:32
e (m):

*looking good in mojo by the way:)

Date: Mon Dec 24 16:26
PAUL (P.KERR@NTLWORLD.COM):

Is that snow? Merry Xmas to all the Sand Family, including Sophie. Paul

Date: Mon Dec 24 15:31
em) (************************************):

*Christmas greetings to those who like christmas& a wonderful 2002!!!!!!! Keep on rocking and rolling and everything else:)

Date: Mon Dec 24 14:26
tom (happy editing):

a very nice hoopla and hat to all of you.

Date: Mon Dec 24 10:58
matt (HOHOHO):

AND A MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU ALL.

Merry Christmas Everyone!

Date: Mon Dec 24 08:35
mike (webster master):

How's my editing? I know, I should have just corrected the spelling.

Date: Mon Dec 24 06:04
di (merry christmas sand lovers !):

i wish we'll all spend them with the people we love along with the company of some fine giant sand mucic

Date: Mon Dec 24 00:26
flop (flop@flop.com):

Howe Christmas!!!

Date: Sun Dec 23 22:22
Tommy Gailer (scroll a ding dong):

Have a fine christmas ya all and hopefully good start into 2002. My year starts with Howe`s live shows (is there a better way to start?)and at the 27th Dec i will head to Barbara M`s and the Twins`concert in my hometown.

Date: Sat Dec 22 15:25
phil (pz123@aol.com):

Got all the info re the solar culture shows thru a link on the calexico page! see you there (on the 29th; can't do the 28th), Phil

Date: Sat Dec 22 15:16
phil (pz123@aol.com):

What time does the Solar Culture show start/doors open, etc? Thanks Mitch

Date: Sat Dec 22 14:13
howe (home):

hey mitch...got the bounty of books....a stunning collection...thanks so much......(it strange to read the first chapter of the vanishing elephant with a whole nuther translater then the same relative chapter in the wind-up bird chronicle...) as for you order, can't we just call it a swap o media....so, get in touch and we'll get you your cd(s).....for those folks who are out-a-here for a holiday gone-a-way, i hope you all have a thick and rich time over christmas and get to catch up with ol friends and family....god bless us all everyone.

Date: Sat Dec 22 12:43
Mitch (uh...let's see...):

Well, Phil, correct me if I'm wrong (and I probably am), but isn't the Westin in the Foothills area (way north of downtown)? In any case, just know that Solar Culture is in downtown Tucson. If you can find Stone, and you're north of downtown, take Stone past University, past 6th, then you'll dip under the railroad tracks, and to your immediate left will be--uh, hm--Toole, I think (you'll wanna turn left there, and Solar Culture is right there to your right(it's kinda hidden, but look for various art pieces, sculpture, mural or something). The backside of the building, which contains other studios, art spaces, etc., is adjacent to the railroad tracks. So perhaps just park and ask someone who looks like they know where they are (believe it or not, can be difficult sometimes downtown). Also, there's a dance club called The Metro, which is on the corner of Stone/Toole--so you can use that as a signpost: Solar Culture is across the street from it, a wee bit northeast I suppose, but you'll be close, very very close at that point. Hope that helps, or makes any sense. Worst case, call Steve Eye or someone else there and just ask directions.

Date: Sat Dec 22 11:11
phil (pz123@aol.com):

Could a Tusconite be so kind as to tell me where Solar Culture isin relation to the Westin La Paloma? We caught GS & Calexico last New Years in Chicago & this year we will be in Tucson. Please help me get my bearings right. Thanks, Phil

Date: Sat Dec 22 11:03
phil (pz123@aol.com):

Favorite nonSand albums of the year: Silos, Laser Beam Next Door; King Crimson, Heavy Construction; Leonard Cohen, Ten New Songs; Ratdog, Live at Rosemont; Gillian Welch (can't recall the title & don't have it here); Jack Bruce, Shadows in the Air; Iain Matthew & Elliot Murphy, La Terre Commune.

Date: Sat Dec 22 08:25
Erik (Harvieux@hotmail.com):

Id have to say that Hisser is just plain amazing."This purple child","Explore you" are my favs but the whole record is a classic work and holds much staying power if any of you havent heard it treat yourself to an extra christmas gift.Thanks Howe.

Date: Sat Dec 22 08:05
di (really now):

wHy people take drugs when howe's music exists ????????

Date: Sat Dec 22 08:02
di ("purge + slouch " again & again & again & ...):

and i'm not exaggerating one bit when i say it's one of the best records from the beginning of music..the record that would make any rocker rave with enthusiasm and any jazz player feel jealous! it's more than 'a record', more than a story to be told it's an entire world, an unlimited world full of colours, senses, spices and cicadas ! it caaaaarries you away takes you to places you never even drEAmed existed...trust me!put on "purge + slouch" and enjOy the ride the best drug in the world could nEVer give you !

Date: Sat Dec 22 05:05
richie ((absent from board for too long)):

missed this board last few months - virus wiped pc - but now firewall is up and can catch up. Nice to see familiar names still posting. End of year polls coming up so....what was your musical discovery this year ?(please don't included sand! sorry howe:)we already love your music. old,new just as long as i touched you love to all this xmas

Date: Sat Dec 22 03:22
erwin (_-):

mitch -- try derek jarman's 'caravaggio' - quite odd. seen that a couple of times now. maybe it says more about jarman than the 16th/17th century painter, but the created atmosphere is worth watching it.... it snows over here in the land of rubens -- very baroque -- i will be 7 years old again today. goodday all.

Date: Sat Dec 22 02:19
Mitch (video rental of the week):

Victor Enrice's "Dream Of Light"--the best film I've seen so far on painting.

Date: Fri Dec 21 15:43
Rob Stanier(hissing) (Robtstanier@aol.com):

Hisser was the one that did it for me. Had never heard of Howe or The Sand before and was sorting out some stock to return to suppliers at the record store I work at. As much as i hate to say it Hisser was on the list and im a sucker for buying albums because of their covers. Thought it looked interesting and noticed Grandaddy appeared on a track who I was heavily into at the time. Very nice album, Explore you seems to be a perfect version captured without realising it.Shy of Bumf**k, excellent title. Started me on the long road to Sandom. Have not looked back since. Peace and Goodwill to all. Love Rob, Nat and Thomas Casper, hes 6 weeks and counting.XXX

Date: Fri Dec 21 14:06
whoops (the light is too bright):

possession

Date: Fri Dec 21 14:05
james s (let's wait for the blackout):

Why, no sir, I have neither heard nor gained posession of Down Home. However, your comment about it will haunt me until I do.

Date: Fri Dec 21 13:52
Mitch (well, hey there, James):

No Unsung as of yet, my friend. But mail hasn't come today, so fingers crossed. Just read your "Hisser" comments, and was wondering if you picked up Down Home 2000 yet? I tend to listen to those two back-to-back.

Date: Fri Dec 21 13:29
james s (yawn):

you got your Unsung yet, Mitch? I'm hoping there will still be stock (and some of the rock opera years too) when I get my order off next week.

Date: Fri Dec 21 11:33
frak (()):

For the record, I'm in no way associated with Howe or Patti. So if you wanna spew your dumbfounding bile, Bird--spill it my way.

Date: Fri Dec 21 11:13
frak (()):

Hey, Bird...your pic is gone. We've suffered your idiotic ramblings long enough. Stick to your end of the bargain now...and get lost! And lay off Patti, you freak!

Date: Fri Dec 21 08:30
js (Re: Di):

I envy your hope and enthusiasm, Di. It alarms me that 140,000 people could carry out a peaceful demonstration and I can't find a mention of it in the popular media. The big networks know who butters their bread. People complain about a media on the left, the "liberal media". What a joke. A corporate-sponsored news media won't go anywhere near the left. I'd be happy if it could just get in the middle, and the real middle, like somewhere between Pat Buchanan and Noam Chomsky. The middle these days is somewhere between Pat and Al Gore. Sorry, this isn't the place, but......

Date: Fri Dec 21 06:20
tHom (santa's grotto):

Di, well done on making a difference. It sounds like an effective demonstration. Happy holidays to all in sandland.

Date: Fri Dec 21 05:17
di (hey, i have photos):

for anyone interested

Date: Fri Dec 21 05:16
di (back):

hello guys...what a demonstration ! 140 000 people -english, scots, irish, belgian, french, spanish, portuguese, refuges, workers, students, anticatitalists, anarchists, activists, ecologists all together we marched for a world where PEOPLE will be BEFORE PROFIT - loooved the scots and the irish, they are soo full of life, so crazy, so wild simply wonderful! it wasn't just a demonstration it's a fight, a fight to change this world and when you're there you realize how powerful your voice is "NOT IN MY NAME-STOP THIS BLOODY WAR!" "SELL SOME ROCKETS TO BUILD SOME SCHOOLS !!" and the streets got full of so many colours you wouldn't believe it! such such inspiration cause this earth needs PEACE FOOD + EDUCATION and you know what ? they are G8-we are 6000000000 and that's why we will win!- we didn't violate the red zone it was a peaceful anti-war demonstration so no coalitions happened-thanks for your concern!

Date: Thu Dec 20 15:58
james s (Re: Rob & John):

sounds sweet, these parties of tomorrow so far away from me. Again, I must say, Hisser is a pleasure. Yes, I know most of you knew this long ago. "Explore You" is heaven. Just the sound of the record, the production (this ain't your standard "lo fi", many perfect sounds happening at perfect times) , the humor and the sadness, the song order, just wonderful. I wish there were more records like this in the world, with all of these right ingredients, and put together so well.

Date: Thu Dec 20 15:29
john (again, nowhere near here):

There's also an All Tomorrow's Parties at the UCLA campus, curated by Sonic Youth, with the Boredoms, Big Star, Television, Destroy All Monsters, Wilco, and a bunch more. Don't know about any chalets or anything as I won't be within a couple thousand miles of either one, but it might be a little more doable for those of you closer to sonoraland.

Date: Thu Dec 20 12:56
Rob Stanier (Robtstanier@aol.com):

James All tomorrows parties happens once a year in April in the South of england at a place called Camber Sands by the seaside. Each year a different curator hand picks the bands. Last year it was Tortoise. they palyed a blinder as did Television, Calexico, Lambchop, Boards of Canada, US Maple and many more. The cost is £105.00 and for this you get a chalet for the 3 nights so no kipping in a wet field. Last year was amazing and this year the curators are Shellac. Bands confirmed so far are Smog, Bonnie Prince Billy, The Fall, Breeders, Plush, Wire and yes, Tom Verlaine and lashings more. Theres loads more info on the website www.alltomorrowsparties.co.uk and it also gives a full listing of the bands playing. I would highly recommend it. Best weekend I had last year and probably will be next year. All the best.Rob.UK Ps Howe get yourself on the bill and it truly will be a heavenly weekend.

Date: Thu Dec 20 10:49
bird (spanish harlem):

Oh, I thought it was Roman Catholic. I heard Lou Reed and John Cage there...I'm glad the fire is out...never did go to a service but I usta run my dog Larry across the North part of Central Park over to the church...I sorta stuck out but ol Lars was fierce...nobody messed with me.

Date: Thu Dec 20 06:37
john (elsewhere):

Mission of Burma - two NYC shows and one in Boston in January. check www.missionofburma.com (where else?) They do post this caveat: WARNING: we will probably be as sloppy and uneven this century as we were the last.

Date: Thu Dec 20 00:38
Sean (mission of burma):

Blaine , on the All Tomorrows Parties web-site , it's got Mission of Burma listed . Worth going just for them .Sean

Date: Wed Dec 19 13:05
james s (but, actually):

that NPR thing may have been just about Roger Miller being back in action with Binary System.

Date: Wed Dec 19 12:55
james s (Re:):

Seems like I heard an interview on NPR recently concerning Mission of Burma's going back into action, Blaine. Guess it's true. It's really quiet in here. Greg Brown said, "it's raining sheets of rain, everything is cold and wet, nobody's going out of doors, they're all at home living it up on the internet, so i guess nobody's lonely any more, 'cept you and me babe..." Well, here I am indoors on the internet, and I think I'm the only one. I'm out of here, going to get out into the cold and wet, where the action is. You all have yourselves a happy holiday. Oh, and Hisser is wonderful, glad I finally got my hands on it.

Date: Wed Dec 19 10:16
innis (whomever@innis.co.uk):

All Tomorrows parties? Is that the weekender at Camber Sands? I heard Tom Verlaine was appearing, and the Breeders, and Cheap Trick! Can it be true? I may, or must, attend..... see you there.....

Date: Wed Dec 19 08:30
Blaine (@work):

Is this true? Mission of Burma back in action??

Date: Wed Dec 19 04:27
Inked w/ Sand (ghog220@cs.com):

check out Das Boot Directors cut on DVD in english with subtitles off most enjoyable very grabbing and timeless

Date: Wed Dec 19 02:53
Sean (All Tomorrows Parties):

And Mission of Burma ?!?

Date: Wed Dec 19 00:20
JC BROCHARD (jc.brochard@wanadoo.fr):

Re : Amelie (which I am still to see...), I just remembered yesterday that on Yann Tiersen's last proper album (Tiersen did the music for Amelie), there's a song, "Parade", sung by... Lisa Germano !!! Also, Tiersen shares his French label with none other than Amor Belhom Duo... Isn't it a small world ? JC, perso.wanadoo.fr/vivonzeureux

Date: Tue Dec 18 14:38
james s (all tomorrow's parties):

wow, where and when is this? Europe, I suppose.

Date: Tue Dec 18 14:06
matt (Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh):

and Low as well. and Godspeed!

Date: Tue Dec 18 14:02
R Stanier (Robtstanier@aol.com):

Ladies & Gentlemen. Imagine my suprise at finding an import copy of Swerve in the racks of the big corporate record shop I assistant manage here in the uk. The lord was indeed shining down on me today. Anybody else going to All Tomorrows Parties next year. Shellac, Smog, Bonnie Prince, Plush to name but a few. Very cold here in the UK but very happy. Rob Stanier. Ps The Boy is doing well.

Date: Tue Dec 18 10:53
blockhead (blockhead):

London's burning? It's actually an Episcopal cathedral.

Date: Tue Dec 18 09:59
Adrian (underthesurface):

Howe & co.'s Barbican show got voted best gig of the year in the Xmas TimeOut in London..much deserved...

Date: Tue Dec 18 09:47
bird (avalon):

Rome is burning....St. John's Divine.

Date: Tue Dec 18 08:17
james s (infant holiday dress?):

Later, Poot. Perhaps Eugene can be the guest vocalist on the next OP8 project.

Date: Tue Dec 18 07:04
poot (whoopeee):

Alright, school's done for the year, so I'm unplugging the computer til january. Can't wait to see what I'll miss. Happy whatever everybody. It's boozin' time. -gone:poot-

Date: Mon Dec 17 21:00
Mitch (a used pair of sneakers):

Now if we can just get Eugene to do "Yer Ropes"!

Date: Mon Dec 17 20:22
james s (sunday bloody sunday):

that's funny as hell, Mitch.

Date: Mon Dec 17 20:12
Mitch (Sorry, just had to pass this on...for some reason):

www.eugenemirman.com

Date: Mon Dec 17 14:48
james s (sorry,):

didn't mean to do that.

Date: Mon Dec 17 14:46
james s (Re:):

I'll add another voice to the Barbican for Sandman chorus.

Date: Mon Dec 17 14:46
james s (Re:):

I'll add another voice to the Barbican for Sandman chorus.

Date: Mon Dec 17 14:37
Archivist (...!):

Thanks for all the suggestions and I'll see what I can come up with..

Date: Mon Dec 17 12:17
tom (here here, how , how ):

Jim , I would be very happy to relive the Barbican show. Seems like we have a majority, people. Also any concert Rainer and Howe did, would be a treat.

Date: Mon Dec 17 11:57
Wolf (still suggesting):

Any questions? … just kidding! Jim, why not organise a Sandman Series suggestion poll? Provide this addicted lot a series of possible Sandman Series releases, we could even suggest possible release titles for this grain of sonic sand! ‘Any questions?’ would be a nice 'twinkle of the eye’ option …

Date: Mon Dec 17 10:55
james s (Re:):

I'll add another voice to the Barbican for Sandman chorus.

Date: Mon Dec 17 10:46
Wolf (suggesting):

Jim, I heard the Barbican show was grand … any chance putting this on the Sandman Series#6? …

Date: Mon Dec 17 09:20
sammy (pommelos@hotmail.com):

Howe,tell me where you want me to send you the tape.

Date: Mon Dec 17 09:04
james s (back to the grind):

went to a good art show this weekend at Yeehaw Industries in Knoxville (great posters and such from woodblock letterpress), www.yeehawindustries.com, bought a little matchbox Marc Bolan shrine. Good time. Went into an new/used locally owned cd store and picked up Valley of Rain and Hisser. Woo hoo!

Date: Mon Dec 17 08:05
erwin (_-):

jim.. the online audio on mike's sawaro.com -- i believe it's darmstadt 2000.

Date: Mon Dec 17 01:32
Mitch (hands up):

I second Stefan on the Beyond Nashville suggestion.

Date: Mon Dec 17 00:33
Stefan (StefanRoehrich@t-online.de):

Hi Jim, suggestions for the tree, to name just a few: a Blacky show, the Regensburg show from 1995 (the one the Searchlight version on "Juxtaposition" is taken from), the Munich Theaterfabrik show from 27 January 1992 (if there is a soundboard recording of that show, which was the second show I've seen & which really blew me away back then), the entire Barbican Beyond Nashville concert (or will there be an official release?), the Rainer memorial show with Polly Jean, one of the Howe & Rainer shows from Germany in 1994 - all these are shows on my wish list; I'd also be interested in recordings of the more recent shows in Italy, and Greece, and France - I'd like to know what Giant Sand sounds like there, if there are any noticeable ambient influences. ....... All the best to you all.

Date: Mon Dec 17 00:02
Archivist (archive@giantsand.com):

Well, now that I have the archive back together (after a move) - I am ready to add another MP3 track to the Archive section "Giant Stream".. Any suggestions? How about any suggestions for the next Sandman release??

Date: Sun Dec 16 21:12
Mitch (scooped):

No owements needed, would be my pleasure give weight to your stocking. So tracked the sucker down, dusted it with a quick whistle--and it'll be off to Ow Om at first light.

Date: Sun Dec 16 19:25
howe (home):

boxed plop you say....vanishing el ephant style....there is a sandy claws afterall ....thanx mitchster, i gotta hand full a gimme and mouth full of much obliged---------h(OWE) you one

Date: Sun Dec 16 18:39
Mitch (4th color layer):

Howe, hope the dip after Wind-Up isn't too drastic--for it's a fine fine book. Have you chanced into Murakami's Norwegian Wood or South of the Border, West of the Sun yet? I do believe I've got an extra copy of his Elephant Vanishes collection somewhere in the stacks--if you want it I'll plop it in the box tomorrow.

Date: Sun Dec 16 18:17
poot (...):

No thanks to the dreaded black ice on steps leading up to my front door. This poor boy almost broke some bones today. Amelie seems to be quite the rage on this page. I gotta wait a couple weeks before the local art house brings it to town. Just barely got Mulholland Drive last week. awesome. boozin' time. -pt

Date: Sun Dec 16 15:55
tracey (popcorn makes me want to watch movies):

and movies make me want to eat popcorn. it's settled then...i'm off to the theatre to see Amelie. thanks sand people for helping me off the sofa and on to the theatre. the only one left with a balcony in my town

Date: Sun Dec 16 14:45
peter s. (Thanks, Howe! ):

Just the appropriate Gelb-Dosage: Wow! You choose a weekend for your tour dates in Austria! Friday to Sunday - thanks, thanks and thanks again, Howe! That's gonna be truly exciting - see You there!

Date: Sun Dec 16 14:34
sam (my):

For those who loved the film : www.amelie-lefilm.com/english/intro.htm

Date: Sun Dec 16 14:23
sammy (° "+" °):

Howe,they just told me that "Amélie Poulain" is going to be for sale very soon(at the end of the month). So,deal...

Date: Sun Dec 16 14:10
Sammy (le renard):

howe,I can do this for you and especially if it permits me to have a talk with you.The tape of Amélie is not already for sale here in Paris but I know how to do.Tell me when,I 'll be there.

Date: Sun Dec 16 13:18
Tokyo Rose (.):

sorry for my breaking such an amorous river of comments I wrote while listening to Confluence. who is amélie? sorry for my bad slang:cheers from Italia

Date: Sun Dec 16 13:17
Tokyo Rose (.):

sorry for my breaking such an amorous river of comments I wrote while listening to Confluence. who is amélie? sorry for my bad slang:cheers from Italia

Date: Sun Dec 16 12:28
howe (home):

yeah mitch.....just finished the wind-up bird chronicle.....now i am in withdrawl from that which was the book....as for the videotape in amelie...who was that mysterious women playing the stunning white gibson SG guitar....working the neck like nothing i've ever seen (or seemingly heard)....in front of the chorus of gospel singers ??????????????????...wish i had a loop of that alone......somewhere it is on videotape.....and sammy, you must be the man for the job.....get that tape, son...and i'll meet you at the brasssrie terminus du nord for la canard and the nuit st. george vin is on me. deal ?

Date: Sun Dec 16 12:11
Tokyo Rose (ro_bj@hotmail.com):

MERAVIGLIOSA MUSICA

Date: Sun Dec 16 11:08
Sammy (ya no):

howe,if you liked "Amélie" you must come here in Paris. YOU PLAY EVERYWHERE IN EUROPE AND YOU DON'T COME IN FRANCE? I remember that the last time you came here (with PJ Harvey),I was thrown away from the "Olympia" by the guards while I was trying to met you.So I have never seen you live.Please come back...

Date: Sun Dec 16 10:59
Sammy (je n'ai pas d'adresse e mail parce que c'est vraiement bizarre,les virus,les chiens ,les chats,les lapins et tout le reste,le facteur au moins il est sympa et de toutes facons Howe ne réponds pas aux mails.):

"Amélie Poulain" is great and great music too.

Date: Sun Dec 16 09:04
Mitch (cola-coka):

Yeah, Tommy, I think it's a combination of the eyes and the hair, and maybe something else in the actress' demeanour. You know, if Mrs. Hepburn were just starting out--and it was 2001--this might be the kind of thing she'd be doing. Like a modern Sabrina--'cept way different. Mayb

Date: Wed Dec 12 17:09
Colin (Leaving):

Well, my last rainy day in Oregon is upon me. Soon I will be drenched with the sun and the loud car horns of California...am I ready? I can hardly wait.

Date: Wed Dec 12 16:51
tom (benigni):

I scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream.

Date: Wed Dec 12 16:09
Mitch (me talk pretty one day):

That's a hoot, Stephen!!! Brought to mind David Sedaris' essay on learning French (Jesus Shaves): "He call his self Jesus and then he die one day on two...morsels of...lumber. He die one day and then he go above my head to live with your father."

Date: Wed Dec 12 15:35
Stephen M.H. Braitman (braitman@mindspring.com):

Many of you are familiar with search engine Google. Some may not know it has a very interesting translation engine. If through a Google search you locate a Web site that is in a non-English language, you can push a button and Google will translate it for you. Here are the results for a review of "Chore of Enchantment" from an Italian site. You can see that Google really understands the essence of Giant Sand! "GIANT SAND Chore of Enchantment (Thrill Jokey, 2000) Exited E' this spring this disc of largest the Giant Sand nevertheless it we have guilty ignored in order too much time. There were other discs, other innovationes that seemed to come before. They seemed exactly, why this year difficultly you will find a job of such depth. Therefore we find ourselves to listen to those polverose songs that the old Howe Gelb, from always the mind and the heart of the Giant Sand, has played with to John Convertino and Joe Burns, that is the Calexico. A trio helped from many other friends, between which Juliana Heatfiled and the glorious Jim Dickinson. Cos' has of special these songs? Perhaps the pain that they hide between the own folds, being these pieces dedicates to you to Rainer Ptacek, reliable friend of Howe Gelb nonchè member of the Giant Sand, scomparso three years ago. Danced that they move with a slow fascination, "Astonished (in Memphis)"," Punishing Sun "and" Shiver ", small essenzialità jewels, "Dirty from the Rain" and the melancholic "Raw", some sfuriata chitarristica neighbor to the Neil Young electrical worker, "Satellite", and some sghembo soul, "Temptation of Egg". And then that sour and only voice that literally tells own history, a po' like ago Lou Reed. To times enough one voice therefore and one manciata of splendid songs in order to make a great disc, true? " Get that? "Danced that they move with a slow fascination" is pure poetry!

Date: Wed Dec 12 14:05
no one (Re:):

You are correct. I care.

Date: Wed Dec 12 12:42
viletemptress (no one cares):

you're right, molten granite is not called molten granite. generally granite does not even melt. usually it metamorphizes (which takes high temp and pressure, but not melting) into gneiss then the gneiss can melt and become magma which can cool back into granite.

Date: Wed Dec 12 12:09
james s (oh, yes, and):

let me not forget At Play in the Fields of the Lord by Matthiessen. Really enjoyed that one recently. I still haven't sent off for my new sandman release. must do that this weekend. Do any of you that have heard it have any comments? Does the new record come out in January? Hey Howe, do you know if you will be playing at south by southwest in 2002? Trying to plan my vacation.

Date: Wed Dec 12 11:07
john (geology central):

actually, molten granite doesn't cool into page turners, I don't even think that molten granite is called granite (I think it's just magma), I guess I didn't learn much from McPhee, or a visit to the Elberton (Ga.) Granite Museum, but they do have a statue there that got lynched and buried because the soldiers to whom it was a tribute didn't like it too much. I remember that much . . .

Date: Wed Dec 12 11:04
james s (Oh, and Mitch,):

I wonder what Flannery would have thought about your slip of the tongue in your class concerning a Good Man Is Hard to Find. That's hilarious.

Date: Wed Dec 12 10:44
john (x@x.X):

Oh yeah, John McPhee - one of my favorites. Who else could turn 300 pages of non-fiction about plate tectonics and how molten granite cools into a page turner?

Date: Wed Dec 12 10:38
Mitch (kawabata dreaming):

Hey, James...well, I'll just put forward my two favorites...Snow Country & Thousand Cranes. There's also an interesting one from him called Palm-Of-The-Hand Stories, which are very very very short stories--guess you'd say almost short fiction as haiku, if that makes any sense.

Date: Wed Dec 12 10:28
james s (re: re:):

OConnor's essays are fun too, Mystery & Manners, I think the collection is called. Other books that I've enjoyed recently: Encounters With the Archdruid by John McPhee, Fool's Progress by Edward Abbey, Boredom by Moravia, Naomi by Tanizaki, and Rule of the Bone by Russel Banks. What Kawabata would you recommend, Mitch? I read Sleeping Beauties recently. Whenever I put the book down, I felt like I just awoke from some strange dream/nightmare with a slight fever.

Date: Wed Dec 12 09:45
Blaine (@work):

Indeed, Harry Crews is another good one --Feast of Snakes, The Gospel Singer(?). That early stuff seems more trad Southern Gothic (if I can get away with saying that -- I think you know the ballpark) and his later novels do have what John refers to... that "I shouldn't laugh at this" non-PC humor. Quite dark and funny, but also very real. He lost me a few years back after the bodybuilder one, I'll need to catch up. Has anyone mentioned Confederacy of Dunces yet? Hilarious & human. There is a bio on the (late) author out or due out soon. Also, to anyone who likes the O'Connor stories, the book of her correspondence is very good and entertaining -- not dry in the least. Sometimes it's a disappointment to confuse the artist and the art (Chuck Berry), but FO'C seems genuine all the way round. No doubt in a a paralell universe Giant Sand took her out on tour. Lastly, I finally saw a movie called Vanishing Point last night. Nice early '70s existential American-dream-gone-haywire story. One other last comment -- the Faulkner character in Barton Fink was a cool reference. (my turn to apologize for rambling.)

Date: Wed Dec 12 08:46
john (avoidingwritingworkrelatedmaterial):

I've always liked "The Violent Bear it Away" the best, although it's been a very long time since I've read it. Been slowly working my way though the collected stories. They're in chronlogical order, including some unpublished, and I'm having a hard time getting to the "good stuff," but I think it was "The Life You Save May be Your Own" was the last one I read and it really gave me a good jolt. I'd recommend Crews too if you've got a taste for offensive humor, maybe like "Fargo" you'll laugh but think that you shouldn't. Would you laugh at an amputaion? You might. But as always I am reminded of Killdozer's great "Lupus" (please imagine fuzzed out guitar and tuba here) - "Lupus took the life of Flannery O'Connor / She wrote may great things before death came upon 'er (bum bumpumbum bumpadum . . ."

Date: Wed Dec 12 08:11
james s (re:):

yes, I'm familar with Tom Franklin. I met him at a reading in Birmingham Alabama a year and a half ago, got him to sign my book. Nice guy. Under his name he also wrote, in large letters, "Jesus is coming soon". Ha. and yes, Mitch, I'm with you on Pancake. It's too bad he didn't stick around. I wish Franklin would come out with something new. It's been a while. I dig some of Larry Brown too, Joe, and Father and Son, and Big Bad Love.

Date: Wed Dec 12 07:19
tHom (not working):

tHanx Blaine, james s and Mitch for the opinions on O'Connor - your pooled enthusiasm has inspired me to try again. I'll take the general advice and begin with the stories ... and check out the Crews fellow too. A strand that may stretch the genre but I think still qualifies as an alloyed stratum in the Southern Gothic vein is Alan Moore's brilliant Swamp Thing series - the greatest work ever done in comics? Maybe. Probably. I've never read any of the Chinese or Japanese writers mentioned but I'm going to check out one or two as soon as I've read the early Pelecanos that's just come out in the UK (and worked my way through the rest of the pile on my armchair).

Date: Tue Dec 11 23:42
Mitch (wait a minute):

It really is Mike, right? Otherwise, ergh!

Date: Tue Dec 11 23:40
Mitch (les mots):

I don't know, Mike. Can't see any problem associating the two...well, depends on the perspective, I guess. :)

Date: Tue Dec 11 23:37
mike (20 x 20):

hmmmm..... in hindsite, maybe I shouldn't have mentioned photo and gunned down in the same sentence......

Date: Tue Dec 11 23:34
mike (sawaro):

Somehow I've always associated the photo on the rear of 'Storm' as being of Jack Ruby when he gunned down Oswald!!.... but that would'nt have been in colour.

Date: Tue Dec 11 23:32
Mitch (again):

Not to be confused with Ryu Murakami...he of Almost Transparent Blue and Sixty-Nine.

Date: Tue Dec 11 23:31
Mitch (the wind-up bird & tuesday's women):

Oh yes yes, GREAT book, howe! The Elephant Vanishes too is a good one from Murakami.

Date: Tue Dec 11 18:57
howe (home):

got 2 words for you mitch (& other readers alike): THE WIND-UP BIRD CHRONICLE by haruki murakami

Date: Tue Dec 11 16:35
Mitch (everything that rises):

Personally, I've always loved Wise Blood (never seen the movie though, any good?), but I think O'Connor's real strength is in the stories. I suppose, in a way, the work might seem dated, and I've sometimes wondered if being from the south or southwest might make them resonate somewhat stronger for a reader from those regions. I think in a grand sense the modern analog for O'Connor might be someone like Ha Jin, whose writing comes from a very specific and unique place that few of us will ever experience (his place in China, I mean, not our own unique places). So if I may, I'd like to recommend a book that came out a year or two ago called Poachers--I'd have to race to the book shelf to double-check--but I believe the author is named Tom Franklin--good stuff, and a nice indicator of where modern "southern" fiction finds itself (have you read this one James?). Also, I know James S will echo my enthusiasm for the very late Breece D.J. Pancake's slim slim volume of slightly Carver-like stories--been a while since I've re-visited it, but I remember feeling at the time that he might've, possibly, been the modern incarnation of O'Connor--had he not shot himself at such a young age. Musically too, we have our O'Connors--Springsteen's Nebraska comes straight to mind, as does dabs from Dylan's massive body of work. And there's just something rural and tingly in that southern gothic vain to be found in Howe's "Was Is A Big Word", and, for me, the Cormac M. vibe gets summoned again and again in "Horses Coming Again" (probably different for everyone else). Film-wise, Malik's Badlands comes closest to me. Most shameful mistake of my haphazard college life. Professor asked if any of us liked O'Connor. I raised my hand. He asked which story. I said, "A Hard Man Is Good To Find." Took me a few seconds to figure out why everyone was laughing. Oh well.

Date: Tue Dec 11 16:13
paulk (p.kerr@ntlworld.com):

Re:Wiseblood, isn't there a shot of Brad Dourif from that movie on the back cover of storm? Blaine, i've heard about Michael Hurley playing with John and Joey,if anyone has a recording of it please,please let me know. Paul

Date: Tue Dec 11 14:59
Sean (sean.tracey@btinternet.com):

Just got the Rainer Live album , if you don't have this you really ought to go out and buy a copy now .

Date: Tue Dec 11 13:06
james s (RE:):

tHom, I'm a fan of Wiseblood (the book and the movie, though the music in the movie drives me nuts), so perhaps this advice will carry no weight, but anyway, my advice is to read the short stories if you haven't already before you dismiss O'Connor and go slowly with them, savoring the dialect, the humor, all of the symbols (got to pay attention to the names of the characters for instance) that she loves to play with that you don't need an advanced degree to recognize. and Cormac. I've seen the cormac / tuscon music scene connection on the backs of Calexico and early Friends of Dean Martinez records and thought perhaps one (or some) of you over that way was in touch with the man and was "in the know". It was worth a shot. I eagerly await the new book.. And, YES!, Suttree! That would be my desert island book, Blaine. As to Bunuel, I started with the Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie. That's all I've seen thus far. It is funny and surreal, though not as surreal, perhaps, as the flicks he was making when he was younger and running about with Dali and Lorca and such. The DVD of Discreet comes with a long informative docu about him that shows many clips of other films. I'm glad, tHom, that our Cormac thoughts met up. O'Connor isn't for everyone; I tryed to turn some of my friends onto her but many of their reactions were, I think, similar to yours. Have you ever tried Crews? Harry Crews? Pretty rough stuff, in the southern gothic vein, and some of it is just plain bad. Feast of Snakes is good, but not for the easily, or not so easily, offended. Damn, it's tempting to fly to Tuscon for the almost-new year's weekend. I hate money, or at least my utter lack of it! Sorry to have blabbed so long. Good day, all.

Date: Tue Dec 11 12:29
found (home):

just listened to purge and slouch for the first time and would advise everyone to get it

Date: Tue Dec 11 10:19
Blaine (@work):

tHom -- good point, I have some very close, music-loving friends who just don't get Giant Sand. C'est la Vie -- it's still a big world and room for everyone. Have you read Everything That Rises Must Converge? May be better than Wiseblood. treygoba -- Steve Wynn's career paralells Howe's in some regards and he's worth diggin into ( a nice guy to boot). My picks are anything he did with the Dream Syndicate; the Danny & Dusty record he did with Dan Stuart (any one know what he's up to?) and friends is in the Rolling Thunder vibe; the Gutterball albs are flat out great. Wynn's solo stuff is harder to gauge -- I'd lean toward Flourecsent and the new one as best picks. On a similar tangent, track down Russ Tollman -- another great writer.

Date: Tue Dec 11 09:49
tHom (where the wise blood won't flow):

Blaine, your mention of O'Connor has resuscitated a personal enigma that I thought I'd put to rest some time ago. Have you ever addressed yourself to the work of an artist who comes highly recommended by those you trust, anticipating great things, only to find the magic just isn't there for you? Such has been my experience where O'Connor is concerned. I understand she's supposed to have a dark current of humour in the mix somewhere, but I just don't get it I suppose. Likewise with Houston's film version of Wise Blood; I find it unwatchable. But for some reason I always think of Trickle Down System as being a kind of soundtrack to that movie, something to do with the line about take off your uniform brings to mind Brad Dourif returning home at the start of the film. Don't ask me why ...

Date: Tue Dec 11 09:22
bird (avalon):

I had the chance to see Steve Wynn at the Metropolitian Museum of Art but I didn't have the dough, I stood outside the theatre doors and caught little snipets as the ladies in their fur coats went in and out...the art work of coarse, kept me company and afterwards I mediatated in the Temple of Dendur......I paid a nickle to get in. Hey, you Tucsonians and anyone else who ever played there, what happened to Hotel Congress.....a.k.a. "Hotel California" by the Eagles?

Date: Tue Dec 11 08:55
treygoba ((starving in oz)):

I just purchased the Steve Wynn album "Here Come the Miracles". Holy crap. Albums that leave me speechless/catatonic from start to finish are hard to come by these days. I've never listened to Wynn and his various incarnations before. Help me folks. What other Wynn/Dream Syndicate albums do I pursue? Are the other albums as jaw-dropping as this? (or maybe I'm just starving for honest music here in the wasteland of Oz)

Date: Tue Dec 11 07:59
Blaine (@work):

...digging into the Cormac McCarthy angle, Suttree is a great book (esp if you have a weakness for Faulkner or O'Connor). PaulK -- speaking of the Holy Modal Rounders, there was GS SXSW gig in Austin some years back where Joey & John backed the great Michael Hurley -- very cool. They were the perfect low-key rhythm section. Maybe someday we can see them play w/Mose Allison. And I seem to recall someone recording the evening's proceedings(Was the flyer for this gig later the cover of the first? bootleg series disc?) -- less than perfect memory here, but I think the lineup was Giant Sand, Mr. Hurley, Medeski, Martin & Wood, Vic Chestnutt, Syd Straw, Peter Holsapple & Susan Cowsill and Chris Whitley -- sometimes in various combinations? Quite a nice evening in a theatre with a slanted floor. Poot -- good point, Howe & the late Mr. Sahm def share a breadth/diversity/love of all musics. It helps they both jump around on instruments, maybe they both share a need to be challenged and a desire not to be bored. James -- can you suggest the best Bunuel movies to start with??

Date: Tue Dec 11 05:33
tHom (up at the high H):

james s, I have no inside news about Cormac McCarthy. So why am I commenting? Only because I was following a train of thought attached to All The Pretty Horses as I came to this site and read your question. Serendipity of a sort, I think. Anyway, we can be sure he is working hard and I look forward to the publication of whatever it is he's working on. howe, what's your argument with the capital H? Is it just the h or the upper case in general? Is it based on aesthetic grounds or some other significance?

Date: Mon Dec 10 23:27
goodfever (goodfever.com):

Hey thanks to rob and howe for the warm welcome, yes this will the first for both of us. it is certainly always seemed like the most important work/pleasure possible, for us two leggers, and at 36yrs aged, i am just as excited and brave (as well as the quantum list of other feelings raging thru me) as i have ever been. good advice though. many congragulations on the arrival of your little ambassitor from the source, a cyber kiss to the crown. howe i understand that you are again awaiting a new'un. this miracle of birth will never be as vivid to me as it is now. i have been a bit to busy making bannana milk, keeping the bath drawn, and schleping poted plants and quan yin statues into the birthing room (we are so lucky), to follow the movie thread very closely, but i rewatched the french canadian animated film from the 70's "fantastic planet" last night, and thought today just how simple all the lessons are, but how difficult and painful it is for us to learn them. well again thanks for the welcomes, and for all the insperation and comradery i have been granted from the words of you, howe, and the sounds of the fine musicians of giant sand. till then...Kirkland (goodfever)

Date: Mon Dec 10 17:27
tom@belgium (hoopla):

Nice to read you again mr Gelb. I happen to live in the neighbourhood and work in Brussels. Maybe, seewhathappenswhenandifithappens, i will meet di (from athenia ) (?). And Mitch, it feels good to read your cinematic wondering again.Love to you all.

Date: Mon Dec 10 17:09
Mitch (nicoretted after 512 miles):

Hi everyone! So cool to be back in the casa again with my 'hind set in front of the computer. As long as the movie thread is somewhat alive, I just returned from the Santa Fe Film Festival--and nearly disappeared for a week inside darkened theaters. Saw some fine flicks, so track 'em down if you can..."Possible Loves" (Brazil) and the latest from the director of Diva called "Mortal Transfers" (soooooooooo dark and funny!). Two utterly incredible films came from Asia: "What Time Is It There?" (Taiwan), which had a cameo from Jean Pierre Leaud in it, and from mainland China "Devils On The Doorstop," which was just an amazing piece of work (all copies were recently seized in China and the film has been banned there). There was also a Canadian film shot on digital video about the Innuit indians--that just goes to show that incredible and epic films can be made with tiny tiny budgets. Anyway, good to be back in Sandland, and so good too to see Howe's name in the lower case here too!!! Mitch

Date: Mon Dec 10 16:31
Maharaj (unhsiV):

Hey Howe, When're you gonna play in Australia?

Date: Mon Dec 10 16:11
Isis (psu23686@pdx.edu):

End support for war in Afghanistan: our bombs are killing innocent women and children. It's not right!!! General Electric (arms manufacturer/owner and controller of N.B.C.) uses N.B.C. news to sell weapons with their pro-war news coverage. www.antiwar.com xoxoxox-

Date: Mon Dec 10 15:45
howe (home):

hi folks. been a while. been working a lot. no that wasnt me who posted the pacyderm comment, i would never use a capital "h" in my name. i hope you all will manage to ridiculously enjoy the christmas crunch regardless of juxtipositionings encountered. this has been a very interesting smattering in the last coupla months. all in all sweet to see a forum so alive. we are going to change the photo in quesion based on the notion that some of you all were requesting to distance the connecion with ms. bean, and we are still wishing the best for robyn and even a happy holiday or two. my apologies to poor ol patti who was dragged into the fray, but she knows it, and thanks for those of you who cyber hugged her as well. meanwhile, hello to the oracle newcomer, and be very nice to di. she is a young, very intelligent and talented woman from athenia who can quote giant sand lyrics from the mid 80s ....very mysterious. just be careful di. it won't do the world any good if your not in it. ok then....em, let the cat out. take care and be warm all.-howe....and happy birthday senor burns !!!

Date: Mon Dec 10 15:29
mike (sawarowom):

Hey BD (and others)... postal orders are now being taken again at the Ow Om Store.

Date: Mon Dec 10 12:34
james s (where are the usual suspects? Everybody bailing?):

any of you westernlitheads keep up with the goingson of Cormac McCarthy? Any rumors of new work surfacing sooNNN? Hey, that new GS record is getting closer and closer!

Date: Mon Dec 10 12:08
concerned (nerves being struck here?):

be careful out there, di. It's a wierd political climate at present with most any serious protest likely to be labled "terrorism". I hope the demonstrators remain nonviolent and that some of the better causes embedded in this movement are helped and not hurt by what goes down.

Date: Mon Dec 10 11:42
Rob Stanier UK (Robtstanier@aol.com):

Welcome goodfever. Good to have you on board. Is it your first child that your expecting? My boy has just gone 4 weeks old. Nothing will match the experience. Be brave for the lady. All the Best. Rob.

Date: Mon Dec 10 11:41
nice (spam):

hey di - try another board for your spam... do you even know who giant sand is?

Date: Mon Dec 10 10:47
World Leader Pretend ()()()()()()()()()():

I hope you find your new world Di. Let's hope it's not the one I'm living in.

Date: Mon Dec 10 09:13
bird (avalon):

Happy Birthday Joey and thanks for that Richard Buckner tape you gave me........I wonder what he means by "kill or be cured." I wish I could go with Di. Good luck everyone.

Date: Mon Dec 10 08:46
di (some more information):

the main organizations against globalisation are the : Globalise Resistance, ATTA (with 26 countries participating ), Corporate Watch (from USA), Jubille Plus, Destroy IMF, Cuba Connect and the ecological Friends of the Earth . links : www.d14.be www.genoa-g8.org www.protest.net www.genoa2001.org www.gbg2001.org inpeg.ecn.cz

Date: Mon Dec 10 08:38
di ("ANOTHER WORLD IS NECESSARY" - Genoa goes to Brussels ):

2 years ago, the 50.000 demonstrators that gathered in Seattle forced the International Trade Organization to cancel it's meeting . the movement against globalisation continued and grew . the 10.000 demonstrators that gathered in Prague in sept.2000 forced the World Bank to end it's meeting one day earlier . in Gothenburg last june, the swedish police opened fire against the people causing serious injuring . violent clashes happened and few weeks later in Barcelona where the World Bank canceled it's meeting and realized it through internet . last summer in Genoa more than 250.000 demonstrators gathered to raise a voice against the G8 . we all saw the real face of globalisation with the " 8 more CIVILISED countries of the world " sending their army to KILL their own children*********in few days (13-14-15 of decemb.) the 15 of the E.U. are meeting in Brussels - euro-cops, euro-army, the war, a military globalisation, a military democracy, the limitation of our freedom - are their issues . more than 3500 cops are already guarding the area determined to keep the demonstrators away - such FASCISM will not pass . 100.000 people from a l l over the world, we'll meet there to march with the slogan "another world is necessary" we want a different world and WE WILL SUCCED!! ********** hey! is any of you guys going ????????? it'll be cool to meet there...ok.hope we'll all be alright and return safe and sound - see you guys !

Date: Mon Dec 10 08:17
james s (re: [ ]):

I'll add Bunuel to my list, Mike. Just watched Discreet Charm over the weekend. It was the first of his that I'd seen. Loved it. As a movie, it's like a giant sand record. ha. Also, the dvd comes with a wonderful long documentary of Bunuel, interviews with his friends and such. Great. J

Date: Sun Dec 9 23:04
goodfever (addicted to spell check):

sorry no spell check available

Date: Sun Dec 9 23:01
goodfever (goodfever.com):

well team hello at long last! it is time, now that i can finaly smell all the tiny tucson(and beyond) fingertips typing away to arrange this most amalgomous myriad of musings, to pipe in and suppose a bit of space in this forum devout. my partner and i have relocated to Oracle Az. for the birth of our child (jan. 15?), and being a cheerleader of the giandsand clan since the early 80's, i wanna be a part (of the 30 peices of music that i brought for the birth, 6 cd's were GS). most importantly, i wish & want each and everyone involved, the prosper needed to evolve further into these most confusing and trying times. each of us blabbering and smoking in our own way, with all these dreams and drears boiling around in the bucket. a thousand infinant blessings, each and all! on a more babylonian note, i have left my home in N.Cal, by wish of the lovly mamma 2 be, with a monthly morgauge payment et al. i am well trained in many feilds, From sound enginering, to masonry/carpentry, and most everything in between (anyone need a dog groomer?), Does anyone in the area need extra hands? Ok introduction complete, other than saying that i have been quite bemused by reading these entries over the last year, and am glad to finally get my nose in here, and say HI!

Date: Sun Dec 9 22:25
Tommy Gailer (scrollboy):

Happy Birthday Joey Burns! And have fun in Japan...

Date: Sun Dec 9 22:03
poot (oh, and it's 1am, monday the 10th here sooo...):

...Happy Hanukkah for those who choose it to be. -pt

Date: Sun Dec 9 21:50
poot (...inch of snow, and a couple words...):

I've been doing a "compare/contrast" of Howe & Doug Sahm for the past couple days. I tried to fit Elvis into the picture as well, but it wasn't a perfect fit. Trace amounts of phantom drums on B.Marble.G are incredible. Giant Sand has truly changed the way I listen. Thanks for the sounds, Howe. -Not Sleeping Poot

Date: Sun Dec 9 15:38
PaulK (p.kerr@ntlworld.com):

Sandman 5 winged it's way in yesterday. Thanks again to Chris, Jim, Mike and of course Howe and the boys (and girl). Re favourite films, many have already been mentioned. Can I add a nod in the direction of the Marx Brothers and a special nod to Missing by Costa Gravas, a trwmendous film that everone should be made to watch. Musically I'm overdosing on the Holy Modal Rounders having seen Peter stampfel last week, inspired lunacy. Paul

Date: Sun Dec 9 09:49
di (no lauren, you're not the only one...):

...yes oh yes let's give peace a chance

Date: Sat Dec 8 10:06
lauren (where were you):

fondly remembering John Lennon today... you might say I'm a dreamer, i hope i'm not the only one....let's give peace a chance... come on with it...

Date: Sat Dec 8 10:05
lauren (where were you):

fondly remembering John Lennon today... you might say I'm a dreamer, i hope i'm not the only one....let's give peace a chance... come on with it...

Date: Sat Dec 8 09:47
bird (avalon):

Hey John............................do you think Neil Young minds that you wrote his lyrics here? I've really been wondering about quoting other people on a sight like this one.............they might not like it. Thats why I try to stick to my own although I would love to quote Leslie Marmon Silko (Almunac of the Dead), Robert Bly (Poem for the Revival of the Democratic Party) and Thomas McGrath (You Out There, So Secret, What Makes You Think You're Alone.) I don't dare but...boy....do they speak my language! I wish everyone could read them!

Date: Sat Dec 8 09:43
Tommy Gailer (scrollin`in the dark):

Yes, Coloin, B. Paxton was in "Near Dark"...so he was in "A simple plan" and "One false move", two of my all time fave`s, too.

Date: Sat Dec 8 01:33
archivist (archive@giantsand.com):

hey mike... can we get a comments board with a spell check?? I need one!

Date: Fri Dec 7 21:45
Colin (Near Dark):

Wasn't Bill Paxton in Near Dark?

Date: Fri Dec 7 21:43
Colin (em):

Uh...bubbles? That would have made it a bit more interesting. Unfortunately they were just the opener, so no bubbles and the sound setup wasn't all that great. I couldn't hear the lyrics that well, but the singer was a real kick. Quite a crowd pleaser...you know he was born to be a rock star.

Date: Fri Dec 7 18:42
em* (Chillin' like Bob Dylan):

Colin-was Mercury Rev equipped with bubbles? I hear they often are..well have a great weekend, everyone. have some fun.

Date: Fri Dec 7 17:57
Tommy Gailer (hot scroller):

Although "Deliverance" and "Don`t look now" have not the "vampire bite", they are great films, no doubt..."Repulsion" doesn`t say anything to me. Yesterday i saw a TUI-Commercial with Goldfrapp`s "Utopia"...made me baffle somehow.

Date: Fri Dec 7 15:13
Colin (shows):

Mercury Rev is quite an interesting band...they opened for Wilco. I got a ticket to the Elliott Smith show in San Fran and I'm pumped!!!

Date: Fri Dec 7 14:35
recent Tucson visitor ((&(/&/&/&)):

RE archivist: almost new year's show, 12/29 - and that is Tom WalbaNK!!!

Date: Fri Dec 7 14:28
j ([:-}/////¬):

Near Dark, Yes but also Deliverance, Don't look now, Repulsion. I must hear sanded 'streets of laredo' I grew up with these things.

Date: Fri Dec 7 13:56
archivist (...):

thats Naim Amor....

Date: Fri Dec 7 13:55
Archivist (archive@giantsand.com):

Just an FYI: Almost New Years shows - Solar Culture, Tucson, AZ - Friday 12/28 - Calexico w/ Howe Gelb, Mariachi Luz De Luna, Nick Luca Trio, and DJ Maneulito. Saturday - 12/29 - Giant Sand w/ Special Guests, Libre de Grasa, and Nail Amor & Tom Walbag. $10 each night. KXCI will broadcast the 1st night live and record the second night for future broadcast...

Date: Fri Dec 7 13:07
emm (hmm):

, Geoff-didn't realize that--now I've gotta get that album! I sure like "the dude" cos it's not a disrespectful cat name-it is very respectful infact :) :) Hey! I just got tickets to the mercury rev concert and i am jumping for joy!!now where is that Hoopla Howe??? oh my.

Date: Fri Dec 7 11:34
sammy (lapin):

I listened to some mp3 of the show Evan D. did on the Country festival in London,with Howe , Joey and John (and a woman,but Who?) and it sounds great.If you want to get it, go on www.Lemonevan.com.The songs are really deep,the musicians really good, I think Evan did one of the best live performance I know & I wish that "Is the grass all wine coloured" will sound more like this.bye,Sammy.

Date: Fri Dec 7 11:31
Blaine ( -- the vernacular is spectacular):

Just came across a very nice bit of accidental magi, thanks to our wonderful technology. Try searching Giant Sand using Google and open the link to Atiza. Click to translate the article to English and there you have it. Howe's turn of phrase never sounded better and thanks to Ignacio Julia (and/or the transaltor) for some koan-like insights. This made my day. Be cool to have it added to the website.

Date: Fri Dec 7 09:11
geoff (re:dude the cat ):

Dude does sound like a good cat name. If I remember correctly (and maybe someone else has already mentioned it), Dude the Cat is one of the songs on the Leaving Trains album that feature the hood of Howe's car. Hmmm Emmm...

Date: Fri Dec 7 09:11
james s (mike, gracias, danke, or rather,):

merci!

Date: Fri Dec 7 08:49
Sean (sean.tracey@btinternet.com):

Howe , how about Beyond Nashville being a yearly event " Howe Gelb presents or Howe Gelb's Hootenany " The show was such a success and my event of the year.

Date: Fri Dec 7 08:23
bean (thanks john):

Those are lovely lyrics, they've inspired me a great deal. Although I must disagree with whoever thinks there aren't any evil people in Arizona....how come there are so many murders? Check out Jeff Smith sometime.....

Date: Fri Dec 7 08:22
mike ([___] ):

james... go to http://www.hollywood.com/movies/detail/movie/238281 - for details, then google on alain cavalier and therese... should get quite a few vids for sale. No one's mentioned louis bunuel in their lists. i've always enjoyed 'the exterminating angel'.

Date: Fri Dec 7 07:05
james s (of course I'm french! Why do you think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king?):

French persons, or connoisseurs of french cinema, do you know a film called "Therese"? It's about Therese of Lisieux, black and white, very artfully done, sypathetic but detached and unsentimental. Can't find it anywhere by title (I saw it once and have been looking since). Anybody have any useful info for me about it, or where to get a copy? Gillian Welch and bunches of good bluegrass tomorrow night in honor of the late great Bill Monroe! Woo Hoo! Have a good day, all.

Date: Fri Dec 7 06:14
Bjorn Hammershaug (bhammershaug@mac.com):

Eyes: Harmony Korines Gummo and julien donkey-boy. (as recent years). Amalie of Montmartre. Apocalypse Now (redux). Ears: Miles (Silent Way Complete). Japancakes (Sleepy Strange). NU-Norwegian jazz/noise. Giant Sand/Gelb (always). Appendix Out. Silver Jews. Everything with a steel-guitar, free spirit, a trumpet and/or dub-rhythms, really. Eyes+Ears: Bright Eyes, live in Oslo. Supersilent. June of 44 (last year I think). Karate. all we forgot. next year will be good.

Date: Fri Dec 7 06:02
Guni (:–)):

Lucky Gustav! Have fun!

Date: Fri Dec 7 05:38
Gustav Tinghög (the woods):

not that i want to rub it in or anything .....but i saw 22- pistepirkko last night......they played in my basement (kind of) .....I'm seeing them tomorrow again ...Everyone should get themself a copy of their new album Rally of love

Date: Thu Dec 6 21:57
Tommy Gailer ((scroll-man)):

Guni, ever seen "Near Dark"? That`s my fave vampire-flick...kinda road-movie.My biggest dissapointment this year, was missing "22-Pistepirkko" live...would have loved to see the "crazy" Finns.

Date: Thu Dec 6 20:09
vile temptress (!!!!!!!!!!!):

sorry, they forced me to refresh, i try, i really do!

Date: Thu Dec 6 20:08
vile temptress (helliott9@hotmail.com):

it's okay if you don't know it, i've just been having a hard time

Date: Thu Dec 6 20:05
vile temptress (helliott9@hotmail.com):

it's okay if you don't know it, i've just been having a hard time

Date: Thu Dec 6 19:30
tom (not the shoes, not the shoes...):

sorry, was thinking of 'Down by Law'

Date: Thu Dec 6 14:04
john (rolling):

I beleive it's "Let's Roll" as in "let's take action now."It refers to Todd Beamer's parting words on his call from flight 93. Let's Roll by Neil Young I know I said I love you, I know you know it's true, I got to put the phone down, And do what we gotta do. One's standing in the aisle way, Two more at the door, We got to get inside there, Before they kill some more. Time is runnin' out, let's roll. Time is runnin' out, let's roll. No time for indecision, We got to make a move, I hope that we're forgiven, For what we gotta do. How this all got started, I'll never understand, I hope someone can fly this thing, Get us back to land. Time is runnin' out, let's roll. Time is runnin' out, let's roll. No one has the answers, But one thing is true, You got to turn on evil, When it's comin' after you. You got to face it down, And when it tries to hide, You got to go in after it, And never be denied. Time is runnin' out, let's roll. Let's roll for freedom, Let's roll for love, Goin' after Satan, On the wings of a dove. Let's roll for justice, Let's roll for truth, Let's not let our children, Grow up fearful in their youth. Time is runnin' out, let's roll. Time is runnin' out, let's roll. Time is runnin' out, let's roll.

Date: Thu Dec 6 13:18
BD ((Should be Cannonball Adderley)):

Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Anything by Edward Abbey, Charles Bowden, Jim Harrison.

Date: Thu Dec 6 13:14
BD (%:}):

Grant Green, Wes Montgomery, Canonball, Clifford Brown, FELA. Yeah gluesniffer and the robyn chic are weird but they are part of syphilisation and we must put up with them and thats it. Keep the board up not matter what, but ditch the picture Howe. Mike Brewer has put so much effort into this site no sense in letting it slip away now. Also you seem like a nice person Patti, You must be a good witch and I know from experiance there are no evil persons in Arizona.

Date: Thu Dec 6 11:52
bean (cnn):

Neil Young's latest recording is called "let em roll" as in heads.

Date: Thu Dec 6 11:22
js (sorry temptress):

I don't recognize the lyric.

Date: Thu Dec 6 11:04
vile temptress (helliott9@hotmail.com):

i don't suppose anyone could answer my question. or at least try. i can't find the answer anywhere. thanks (it was posted on dec 5 20:00 or so)

Date: Thu Dec 6 10:43
Guni ((****)):

I don't know if it's ok to choose now, there are still some evenings left this year. But as I won't be in Tucson for the Almost-New-Year-Events I would say my concert of the year 2001 was: **** 22-Pistepirkko – Rally of Love-Tour ****. But I also loved all the Calexico shows I saw/heard (Hi Tommy, Carsten, John&Joey, Martin&Volker, Jacob&Jelle) and of course R.Hopkins & The Luminarios, just recently. Mitch, what about Nosferatu, the original bw?

Date: Thu Dec 6 09:50
k (conzertsofdayear):

quasi/blackheartprocession/broadcast/isotope217/mouseonmars/howe/ guidedbyvoices/sandandfriendsintucson/thestandard

Date: Thu Dec 6 09:03
glue sniffer (apoligies):

sorry if i have offened any one or upsert the delicate balce of this board. fun fun fun in the sun sun sun. its hungry hungry hippos. i love you all were all in the same boat and it is getting smaller theirs vitriol on this page that makes me bleed inside, just try a little happiness. p.s welcome to our world.

Date: Thu Dec 6 08:59
glue sniffer (((((and also i would like to thank....))))):

i would take the film Pie or pye you know and jazz records theloinus monks genius of modern music and napalm deaths greatist hits and pariond by black sabath. howard the duck

Date: Thu Dec 6 07:46
so odd it's interesting... (????):

Just reading over the discussion board...there's always good music references and I like my fellow Howe friends and fans....but honestly, what is UP with the Bird Bean Robyn?! I keep picturing her hunched over a computer keyboard in some dark room with a swinging Psycho lamp over her head, madly typing away on the Giant Sand discussion board. Sybil, go somewhere else for attention.

Date: Thu Dec 6 07:44
james s (i'm a vampire i'm a vampire):

Good points, Mitch. I'm not bailing. Lucky you, getting away from your computer for a day. I wish I could. I'm stuck in front of one at work for eight hours a day. How can I resist seeing what's going on here? I can't. So it goes. Even when I worked as a parking lot attendent, I was in front of a screen all day. arrrhh. Oh, and Howe, I listened to better music than the jaguar drivers around here.

Date: Thu Dec 6 07:36
Blaine (@work):

Sniffer -- on behalf of the rest of the readers and writers to this mssg board, I hereby declare you the official Giant Sand "soical calender". We all wish we could have been right there with you throwing up and being rude to people. You describce yrself as a true ass. You get points for being honest. Re: the other problem child who has cyber-stalked Howe/Patti (and us) you got yr dose of attention. How about setting up yr own website and mssg board? I have sympathy and compassion to an extent, but anyone who choses to go off the wagon on thier meds really isn't trying to work things out, now are they? Maybe losing the photo will exorcise the problem. The Silos have been selling a white label cd at thier gigs called "the one with the bird on it". Maybe the GS braintrust would consider a similar remedy. I think we are all gonna end up the answer to a real obscure trivia question here. Moving on -- Best new albs: Dylan and Lucinda. Gigs: Blue Rodeo, Wilco and hopefully Lucinda tomorrow night. Does anyone know if Neil Young has a new alb in the works??

Date: Thu Dec 6 06:51
the real glue sniffer (not that there could be another):

so all this people wepole dancing and singing on fresh dug ground should i use a neon sign? redrum, on a lighter note as i feel i am the giant sand soical calender i went to a gig last night in oxford uk home of the brave and saw a rage against the machine band playing quite nice if not a little loud. then got invited to party my friend hid my heavy guitar in a bush and off we went. got to the party full of writers acotors some american guy who said he editied the dialog for dawsons creek i was rude and drunk people i was with didnt fit in got in a huge row about music students being rubish then guy with me is sick all over the hosts room i start writing all over the walls we get thrown out they attack drunk sick on floor man and we leg it. is there a song in their? you could make it up

Date: Thu Dec 6 06:44
Mitch (onward):

Patti, so glad the GH arrived safely. And, Guni, that vampire flick for the island. Hmmmmmmmm...Vampire's Kiss was kinda funny and with a nice psychological edge, if I remember right. But I'd have to reach back for the Hammer Horror flicks I loved as a kid--Horror Of Dracula, with Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing.

Date: Thu Dec 6 06:40
Mitch (up in Santa Fe):

Hello everyone. I've been away from home and computer for the last few days, and so have missed some of the drama and excitement on the comments board. I still think the best thing to do is simply not respond in any fashion to you-know-who (of course, in a roundabout way I'm doing that now). When I read her "Patty" post I knew it was her, and I'm sure everyone else here did too. Really, I hate to see people bailing out of here because of Osama Bin Avalon. I find almost all of her comments--no matter what name she is using, or whether she's apologizing or attacking--to be very transparent. It is disturbing at times, I know, but to let her ultimately disrupt our ebb & flow here is to give her way much more credit than she deserves. Concerning her Glum photo, I'd say just get rid of it completely--for no other reason than to blot her and her name and her creation from being seen by lots of people. Some things are better off being tossed into the artistic trashcan, some people too.

Date: Thu Dec 6 05:23
sarah (sarah@sa-wa-ro.com):

as the wife of Mike (sandman) Brewer I would like to give a great big thankyou to him for introducing me to the wonderful "World of Sand", my life is truly richer

Date: Thu Dec 6 05:22
sarah (sarah@sa-wa-ro.com):

as the wife of Mike (sandman) Brewer I would like to give a great big thankyou to him for introducing me to the wonderful "World of Sand", my life is truly richer

Date: Thu Dec 6 03:29
jpr (you are not alo-o-ne):

concert moments of the year (in no particular order): the waterboys: 'we will not be lovers' and mike scott's somewhat kitschy but effective orgasm-simulating 10 minutes+ guitar-solo in 'the pan within'. melvins: start-stun-stare-cope-end. slowly close the mouth. white noise and a grinning constantly for days. steve wynn + the miracle 3: small club gig ('knust', for those who care)! what a great, direct, sound! almost had forgotten about this feeling. 5 people on a 12 qm stage. chris cacavas! neil young: cortez the killer. made me forget a stupid talkative (does one say so?)audience. the handsome family: weightless gospel-elvis. (the 'knust' again, btw.) is that all there is? that's what I remember.

Date: Thu Dec 6 03:03
Colin (Forgot to mention, forgot to mention spoonman):

Oh, and I forgot to mention an astonishing performance by The Spoonman who projected out into the theater without the use of a microphone and quoted Shakespeare. Say, I feel like I'm talking to an empty arena here. Where'd you all go. ECHO...echo.......echo...........echo

Date: Thu Dec 6 01:05
Tidbit of the Day (From www.tomato.org):

To maintain their full flavor, do not refrigerate tomatoes! When tomatoes are subjected to cold temperatures, they lose their great flavor and can turn mushy. Store tomatoes outside the refrigerator, as you do with bananas.

Date: Thu Dec 6 01:01
Colin (This Year):

Well, I've been very happy with the company I've kept these past months. With them my ears have been exposed to the likes of Guided By Voices, Wilco, The Posies, Yo La Tengo, Wilco, Stephen Malkamus, Robyn Hitchcock, The Strokes, Rufus Wayneright, Red House Painters, X covers, that have truly been the awakening and departure I needed from my sad repetitious ungrowing collection of music previous. I can say that it is all due to a great friend of mine that I will truly miss with my move to California coming closer with every day. I have seen some great shows: U2, Dave Matthews, Neil, Pearl Jam, Tracy Chapman, REM, Emmylou, Daniel Lanios, GBV, Red House Painters, Wilco. It's been a good year with many more to come....

Date: Wed Dec 5 20:49
vile temptress (helliott9@hotmail.com):

sorry about that

Date: Wed Dec 5 20:47
vile temptress (helliott9@hotmail.com):

does anyone know who sang this song? it starts out: "it's all right, i've seen this before, this new light found me lost by the shore..." then later it repeats the words "radio noise" for a sort of chorus/bridge. i was trying to download the nitty gritty dirt band song "an american dream" and i got this. thanks

Date: Wed Dec 5 20:46
vile temptress (helliott9@hotmail.com):

does anyone know who sang this song? it starts out: "it's all right, i've seen this before, this new light found me lost by the shore..." then later it repeats the words "radio noise" for a sort of chorus/bridge. i was trying to download the nitty gritty dirt band song "an american dream" and i got this. thanks

Date: Wed Dec 5 15:42
Sean (sean.tracey@btinternet.com):

It's that time of year , so how about some top songs/albums/bands/event of the year type stuff ?

Date: Wed Dec 5 14:26
john (http://www.bigstepdown.com/letsroll/):

here's a link I got off the Vic Williams list to an mp3 for Neil Young's new song "Let's Roll" inspired by remarks on a cell phone call from flight 93. You may have heard it, but it's new to me - http://www.bigstepdown.com/letsroll/ peace y'all.

Date: Wed Dec 5 13:49
Colin (WOW):

Hey Patti, I had no idea you were the head of the "Tucson Witches" How's that treating you? By the way, what the hell's going on here...did I miss something? What is this "picture" that seems to have destroyed the foundation of this comments page? Oh, and the Dude is a great cat name. Hoping to get a ticket to see Elliott Smith in San Fran on the 17th. One last final and I'm done. Thugs: Where's the money Lebowski? The Dude: It's uh... it's down there somewhere let me take another look.

Date: Wed Dec 5 13:20
tom (@belgium.com):

i also think it's quite ironic that in these circumstances there are 3 Toms (actually one tom, one thom and myself) posting messages, under their real names.

Date: Wed Dec 5 13:16
tom (....):

I agree with pjb. Let's not get this thing get involved with our communication people.

Date: Wed Dec 5 13:01
pjb (enough):

Hey, maybe ignore is a good idea - Avalon is so hungry, needs to be fed, don't feed her. I told a friend recently - you can't talk to a psycho like a normal human being... Perhaps a nice desert island would be good therapy for Avalon - with a kitty named velcro for company and axis bold as love and maybe valley of rain played real loud...

Date: Wed Dec 5 12:46
em (me):

**wow this is sad--is there any place safe? Where's Chris G when you need him?**

Date: Wed Dec 5 11:27
Patti (a final note):

Its obvious that Robyn thinks it was me posting in her name.....will the real imposter please step forward (use a fake name if you have to) and be the recipiant of this persons vile insults. Im innocent. I have spoken to her once in my life. She is fixated on me and this is not pleasant as you can imagine. I wont write another word in here so you'll all know that its not me if she uses my misspelled name again. In the meantime.....rock on. Poot, I hope you like the c'd's. Howe, Ide burn the negative if I were you. Emme, the dude abides. Love and peace to all and to all a good night. Patti

Date: Wed Dec 5 11:00
Adrian (underthesurface@hotmail.com):

On a more happy note look at: http://lorseau.free.fr/indexconcert.htm for some great pics from the Giant Sand Barbican show!

Date: Wed Dec 5 10:25
james s (damn my spelling):

...talk to NO one... Later.

Date: Wed Dec 5 10:24
james s (a shame to cut down a good tree to get rid of one bad apple but):

perhaps this tree should come down for awhile. What a drag. I'm not tired of this site (as I'm sure everyone can tell). You good folks have kept me company each day here at work where I talk to know one (kind of isolated). However, I think I'll give it a rest here for a little awhile myself, let the air clear, if it ever does. Meet you on the island in the meantime.

Date: Wed Dec 5 10:04
another (idea):

and delete her photo - positive or negative it does not deserve to be on this site.. I think enough time has been wasted on all of this!

Date: Wed Dec 5 09:57
uggggly (you crazy?):

tired of this forum... given up on it.. blame most of it on avalon-bird-whatever the hell you are... Mike, come up with a new method pronto - - - - to lock out the crazies

Date: Wed Dec 5 09:55
Patti (holy cows):

This is getting stranger by the minute!!!!! I was just gonna thank Mitch for the lovley George Harrison c'd that he sent and tell Poot that his was on the way and BAM !!!!She really is twisted isnt she. Thats not Howe on there either. He told me so. I can barely breath but Im just glad that your all aware of the nature of this beast and you know whats real. Robyn, have you ever considered an exorsist? You really need one. You dont belong here in this place of goodness. You are a truly evil person.....meds or no meds. Patti

Date: Wed Dec 5 09:26
poot (whoa, nelly (bessie, for ol' matt 1)):

Jazz: Serge Chaloff: Blue Serge, Miles: Live-Evil, Ellington: Indigos, Monk: Alone (complete Col. solo recordings) & Live at the It club. Movies: Evil Dead 2, Holy Grail, Un Chien Andalou, Firemen's Ball, L.A. Story. Covers: Frank Black: Changing Of The Guard or maybe I'm Goin' Down, Howe: Still horses comin'... Pixies: Head On... Drink Small: I really don't want to know. yeah... good enough for now. As for the outbreak of identity-crisis-es on here ... what can you do? Ignore? Attack? What's the best way to deal with those who abuse the facelessness of the internet? love, poot-0-rama

Date: Wed Dec 5 09:13
frak (()):

How lame can this woman get? So Robyn is up to her old, tired tricks again. She could have at least spelled Patti's name correctly. I suppose that's asking a lot from a paranoid, delusional soul.

Date: Wed Dec 5 08:55
** (em):

looks like the glue sniffer is on a rampage

Date: Wed Dec 5 08:53
emm (mmm):

**The Dude, eh? that would actually be very cute--i like the discussion going on here--the "best vs, favorite"--I only have a second so I'll add Living in Oblivian and The Producers and maybe Serpico?Maybe Alfie? have a lovely day, all.:)

Date: Wed Dec 5 08:47
patty keating (you asked for it):

Tucson is the cult/herion capital of the United States. I am the head of the "Tucson Witches." I have tortured and murdered many people, many innocent, young, beautiful, talented women because I am jealous and get power from it. I am a TERRORIST.

Date: Wed Dec 5 08:22
james s (and, em):

since you like the big lebowski (I do as well), perhaps you should call your kitten the Dude.

Date: Wed Dec 5 08:19
mike (06:00):

I'm surprised no ones mentioned 'Groundhog Day'........I could watch that film over and over again.

Date: Wed Dec 5 08:16
tom (tom.alban@eudoramail.com):

oops, and I forgot 'The Man who wasn't there' - Coen Brothers' best yet IMHO.

Date: Wed Dec 5 08:14
Tom (tom.alban@eudoramail.com):

Not the best films ever, but the films I'd like to take to a desert island at the moment - Blade Runner, Blood Simple, Run Lola Run, Amores Perros. Other good stuff recently - American Beauty, Run Lola Run, Ratcatcher, Crouching Tiger (though I'm not sure that would repay repeated viewings). Also 'Bombay' which is Hindi (complete with song and dance sequences) but also a serious and powerful film about intercommunal rioting. BTW Breathless is Godard not Truffaut. His 'Bande à Part' (recently rereleased) is remarkably good fun for a French New Wave film and inspired the dance scene in Pulp Fiction.

Date: Wed Dec 5 07:49
thom (the hotel at marienbad):

Thanks, james s, for the confirmation. And a fine call on the Diary of A Country Priest. May I suggest also A Man Escaped - perhaps appropriate for the desert island, although my favourite Bresson movie may be L'Argent. Decisions, decisions ...

Date: Wed Dec 5 07:32
treygoba (oz):

The best g.s. album might be Chore. Center of the Universe and Dreaded Brown Recluse get the most play (esp. center). That's a great question btw. I've seen "Waiting for Guffman" a zillion times, but I don't think it's one of the "best" movies on my list. Is it fluff (drivel) vs. deep impact? I think Apocalypse Now is one of the "best" movies, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to watch it repeatedly. Ditto for Crumb. Steve Martin's "The Jerk" otoh... I can't listen to Jeff Buckley because of the association(s), yet I'd rate "Grace" as one of the best of the 90's (or any decade). Ditto for Nirvana. As we approach the magazine/critics barrage (garbage), maybe the distinction should be between "favorite" vs. "best" vs. "influential"?

Date: Wed Dec 5 06:53
james s (that's):

StarDUST memories. Sorry Woody.

Date: Wed Dec 5 06:50
james s (so view the modern man, looking looking looking like a soft soft picasso):

allow me to throw Lolita (the SK version), and Gandhi into the pile. Yes tHom, I sometimes find I don't watch "the best" as often as my "favorites", for example, I wouldn't say Dazed and Confused is the "best", but I've seen it more times than any of the "desert island" flicks I've listed so far (except Holy Grail, which I've seen too many times to count). Office Space was perty durn funny too. and all Coen brother's movies... the old black & white & french Diary of a Country Priest, Starlight Memories,...

Date: Wed Dec 5 06:07
tHom (the land where the bong tree grows):

I thought I'd have a stab at the five movies thing but I'm useless at picking favourites. I think I'd definitely include This Is Spinal Tap in the desert island milieu - you can watch it again and again. But this list thing raises a question that's troubled me for some time: If you had to name your "favourite" gs record, would it be the same album that you'd refer to as the "best" - and would either of these be the one you actually played the most? I know for my part that these criteria would probably result in three different albums. If a stranger to gs asked me for their "best", I'd probably name Chore; if pushed for my "favourite" I'd name several at once to confuse the interrogator; and yet clinical tests have shown that I play The Love Songs more often than any other. Is this just me or is it a common phenomenon?

Date: Wed Dec 5 05:23
trey from oz (tharrison@eldoradoschools.org):

Best of 2001--Memento; Bottle Rocket; Raising Arizona; Taxi Driver; Last Tango in Paris; American Beauty; Fight Club; Rushmore; Seventh Samauri; Dr. Strangelove; Unforgiven; The Last Seduction; and of course- The Last Waltz. Should I go on?

Date: Wed Dec 5 03:36
glue sniffer (more rubish):

hello again spending out alot latley. spent last night on sombodies cannal boat one of those long thin barges. he was a painter but i thought he was going to kill me? smoked too much pot and couldnt get out of the boat been singing like jim morrioson earler and met this guy and his dog but i was verry rude to him, so kids dont get on house boats with strangers and more importantly buy your own drugs

Date: Wed Dec 5 03:08
Guni ((Yester*em's* kitten)):

What about Georgia (on your mind)?

Date: Wed Dec 5 03:05
Guni ((island movies)):

... pretty nice list, I'd like to add "Brazil", "Thunderheart" and "Field of Dreams". And maybe one about vampires, Mitch?

Date: Tue Dec 4 23:52
la dee daa dee (daa):

NO!!! It is I who is the mysterious one who lives in the Ice and captured the soul of Robyn. Your mother is in here too...would you like to talk to her...wait, wrong movie. Grow up guys, just have fun with it and whine about your petty quarrels when you cry yourself to sleep at night.

Date: Tue Dec 4 17:32
erwin (to follow mitch):

but badlands has that 'i-will-give-you-a-dollar-if-you-eat-that-collie martin sheen introduction' which is unforgettable indeed..

Date: Tue Dec 4 17:22
erwin (at the movies):

even more difficult.. but timewise: voyage dans la lune (georges méliès) / modern times (chaplin) / brief encounter (david lean) / the appartment (billy wilder) / apocalypse now (coppola) / andmanymanymore....

Date: Tue Dec 4 16:19
** (m):

ooh and Big Lebowski!! of course!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Date: Tue Dec 4 16:18
m (**):

movies you say? Blue in the Face, help,head and quadraphenia(sp?), mixed nuts, life of brian/ holy grail/ how to irritate people. Oh I don't know--my head is hurting. lists are hard. Nobody likes my George idea?? She's a girl so howabout Georgie Girl(another to my list by the way)--aw never mind--I guess my kitten is yesterday's news..poor thing. I saw POEtry by the way& it was amazing& you all should get the soundtrack..Somehow Perfect Day blended beautifully with the raven..who knew? take care all:)

Date: Tue Dec 4 15:23
k (films):

grand canyon/love and death/big lebowski/bottle rocket/box of moonlight

Date: Tue Dec 4 15:06
Blaine (-movies@work):

A Touch of Evil (Welles); Vertigo (Hitchcock); The Wild Bunch (Peckinpah); Breathless (Truffaut?); The Usual Suspects (?); Meatballs (Murray)

Date: Tue Dec 4 15:01
d (alright):

top 5 eh :) well , here goes....'ko - ya -ni - scotch - e', 'hambuger hill', 'ferris buller's day off', 'deliverence', 'taxi driver'.

Date: Tue Dec 4 14:52
james s (movies):

drugstore cowboy; blue velvet; apocolypse now; kundun; now i'm drawing a blank... holy grail for sure!

Date: Tue Dec 4 14:45
Mitch (off to bed):

Hmmmmmmmmm...I like this island so far. Movies...just five, uh, er...well, since Tom already picked "Down By Law" I'll leave it out (okay, this could change at any second, but for now): "Badlands," "Maborosi," "Network," "Full Metal Jacket," and my current favorite... Kiyoshi Kurosawa's "Charisma." Nite everyone. Or good day, I guess.

Date: Tue Dec 4 14:29
Tom ((movie time)):

Jim Jarmusch 'Down by law', Coppola 'The Godfather', Billy Wilder 'Double Indemnity', Jones and Gilliam 'Monthy Python and the Holy Grail', Sergio Leone, Truffaut,..

Date: Tue Dec 4 14:10
james s (hum):

yes, Tom. Dead Flag Blues. quite prophetic it seems.

Date: Tue Dec 4 14:00
Tom (tom.alban@eudoramail.com):

Jazz albums? I'd definitely go for 'Kind of Blue' or 'Milestones' over 'Sketches of Spain' - Miles is much better unarranged: jazz isn't classical music, and anyway Rodriguez (Concerto d'Aranjuez) was the Spanish fascists' court composer. Books: best book of last century in my view was Toni Morrison's Beloved. Otherwise for entertainment Pynchon's hard to beat (as well as allegedly being a Sand fan) maybe Gravity's Rainbow. Anyone here read Mark Danielewski's House of Leaves? Not a great book but a highly entertaining and intriguing one. How about this desert island has a film projector and you can take five films?

Date: Tue Dec 4 13:49
Howe (this is getting weird):

I wish I could record at pacyderm

Date: Tue Dec 4 13:47
Tom (tom.alban@eudoramail.com):

Covers - Patti Smith's Gloria (hearing that in the staid 70s was very sexy), Cassandra Wilson's Harvest Moon, Kronos Quartet's Purple Haze (never knew a string quartet could make so much noise, Kirsten Hirsch's Trouble. BTW has anyone listened to the lyrics on Godspeedyoublackemperor!'s f#a#infinity since September 11th? Who needs Nostradamus when you've got Canadian hippies!

Date: Tue Dec 4 12:19
Robyn (the real one):

I'm sorry, Howe. Someone else is pretending to be me. I'm sorry all you Sand people.

Date: Tue Dec 4 12:15
bean (blue streak):

No Robyn no. They are tricking you. Don't believe them.

Date: Tue Dec 4 12:10
Robyn (MN):

And I am sorry for all the trouble I've caused.

Date: Tue Dec 4 12:09
Robyn (no, it isn't me):

I don't know who is using my name, but I didn't post that last message. I am really sorry and someone else is trying to make it look like I'm not. And I do love Wilco. I would never claim to own this site. Whoever is saying they are me and saying those awful things must stop now.

Date: Tue Dec 4 12:08
avalon (bird):

I exist in the ice and must keep the winter wind at bay. I have taken Robyn. I have made Robyn and she is the one who is the bird and she is the one who is the one I must apologize for. If she doesn't claw at it she won't understand.

Date: Tue Dec 4 11:36
Captain Scarlet (bhgh99@yahoo.com):

Who cares about your damn photo , get a life and get off our message board.

Date: Tue Dec 4 10:16
Robyn (the good one) (Moorhead, MN):

Howe wrote the last message because he's too lame to talk to me himself. This is my sight since it has my photo on it and I'll say whatever I want until it is corrected. I am not selfish, in fact it is the other way around. I'd really like to talk about great music such as Wilco and many others but these sandlice keep interupting. Anyone want to hear about Pacyderm?

Date: Tue Dec 4 10:02
js (that's):

civilization.

Date: Tue Dec 4 09:42
js (this is radio clash on pirate satalite):

yes, we should find an island and move out there with our music and books and koans and start up the most powerful and most kick-ass pirate radio station ever, and we could be munching on bananas and putting out the tunes for the rest of the world while it blows itself to bits in the name of god or freedom or money or oil or civilazation or "our way of life" or moral decency or security or whatever the new excuse is...

Date: Tue Dec 4 08:17
Blaine (@stranded):

James, Are we all gonna be on the same island? Would be a nice radio station, all we need are pirates. Miles/Evans - Sketches of Spain; Coltrane - A Love Supreme; Jazz Messengers - Dangerous Liaisons; Velvets - Live 1969; Mingusx5; The Razor's Edge by Maugham; Zen Mind Beg Mind by Suzuki

Date: Tue Dec 4 07:24
james s (japanese and such):

mitch, i just finished House of the Sleeping Beauties (Kawabata). Read some Tanizaki not long ago too (diary and naomi). And, of course, Percy, that great louisiana bourbon-loving existentialist catholic novelist. Yes. Well, thanks to those of you who sort of accepted my mission. Anyone read Positively Fourth Street by Hadju, about dylan and friends in the early days?? If so, would you recommend it? Oh, and also Suzuki (DT) and all of that wonderful zen madness/sanity.

Date: Tue Dec 4 06:25
john (Coltrane covers):

Mike Watt's been known to slip "A Love Supreme" into the middle of The Stooges "Fun House" !!!

Date: Tue Dec 4 05:44
covers (r us) (London):

Biily Bragg's Jeanne (Smiths) Lemonheads's Luka (Vega) Michelle Shocked's Leavin Louisiana (?) Garbage's Kick My Ass (Chesnutt) Heard Will Oldham has done some Kevin Coyne Covers as well momma dunt allow no jazz in our house

Date: Tue Dec 4 05:44
covers (r us) (London):

Biily Bragg's Jeanne (Smiths) Lemonheads's Luka (Vega) Michelle Shocked's Leavin Louisiana (?) Garbage's Kick My Ass (Chesnutt) Heard Will Oldham has done some Kevin Coyne Covers as well momma dunt allow no jazz in our house

Date: Tue Dec 4 03:17
Guni ((don't ask me questions...)):

..seems I don't know the answer.

Date: Tue Dec 4 03:10
Mitch (Tee Cee):

World's End is a good one, though not sure it'd sustain me on a desert island. Come to think of it, maybe I'd go for the transcendental earthiness of Whitman if stuck in that situation. Guess I should rent Castaway and see what Tom Hanks did to survive. Talked to a volleyball, was it?

Date: Tue Dec 4 03:07
Mitch (wide awake in the cold, cold night):

Hey Guni...well, wish I could say I was avoiding the heat...but it's gotten darn chilly here the last week or so. I'm afraid I'm just on my usual screwy vampire hours. Went shopping yesterday morning and the sunlight nearly killed me.

Date: Tue Dec 4 03:06
glue sniffin (helium guitar licks):

well here is how it goes e 5-3-023-/-5-3-02323/ a7 hes a hard man to get to know told you so. willl right the rest when i get my guitar. requests i can do them all

Date: Tue Dec 4 02:52
Guni ((to Tommy & Mitch)):

Ja was, auch schon wach, mein LIeber! Hey Mitch, is it still that hot in Tucson that you can't sleep at four somewhat in the morning? What about T.C. Boyle's World's End?

Date: Tue Dec 4 02:47
Mitch (desert island jazz):

James James, I've tried to narrow my list down to four or five, but just can't get there. But I can tell you who'd I want: Coltrane, Mingus, Monk, Davis, and likely Django Reinhardt (counts as jazz, right?). Bookwise, I have no idea. Day of the Locusts by Nathenael West has been a favorite since childhood, and The Moviegoer too. Probably though, it'd be something by Endo or Kawabata. Teach Us To Outgrow Our Madness by Oe is a good enough choice, I suppose. By the way, I thought whoever picked Robert Frank's The Americans was a fine choice. When I started with photography long ago that book was my bible.

Date: Tue Dec 4 02:43
stuart (terminal watch land):

Still more cover versions - The Stranglers' gripping "Walk on By", Aztec Camera melancholic take on Van Halen's "Jump" in the style of Loaded-era Velvets, and - true genius here - Van Morrison's wonderful remake of "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue" with