2001 July to December

Date: Mon Dec 31 12:25
christine, diane, anne (amsterdams finest):

thanks for a year of great music, live and not. WE WISH YOU AN INCREDIBLY GOOD NEW YEAR !!! looking forward hearing, seeing you and listening to your gardening again! enjoy! and yaah, peace and love to all !!!!!!!!! kisses and hugs from all of us for all of you.......

Date: Mon Dec 31 12:25
kirkland (goodfever@hotmail.com):

From the good ship Oracle, wishing everyone great joy and providence in the next of new years...2002. Had a great time at the almost new years Giant Sand show in Tucson night before last. Recorded most of it, and have uploaded a few tunes to the orthanc site. Peace and love...Ciao' out!...Kirkland

Date: Mon Dec 31 11:19
e (m):

*********************************************************************** AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! HAPPY 2002!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOVE, EMME

Date: Mon Dec 31 11:18
em (***):

*I've been looking for "Edie" forever with no luck:( now I just want it all the more but yeah-andy warhol's philosophy is great-especially the part about Edie:)

Date: Mon Dec 31 09:11
howe (home):

hi. i hope you all have a wonderul night tonight and a better year ahead. peace and love, more then ever, right here, right now.

Date: Mon Dec 31 09:02
tom (dress codes):

Have a nice one, all of you fine sandy people. Don't forget to dress sharp and jazzy..Best of wishes to all of you.

Date: Mon Dec 31 08:55
james s (kciwegdes eide):

Yes, that Edie Sedgewick by George Plimpton is the same book as the one I mentioned, "Edie by Jean Stein". It's actually by a multitude of folks, I suppose, lots of things edited together by people associated with Edie and Warhol. Fun reading. It's worth buying (or checking out of the library) just for the stuff Truman Capote has to say about Andy Warhol. Funny stuff. Hope everyone has a fun time this evening, and HAPPY NEW YEARS (eve) to all.

Date: Mon Dec 31 08:53
matthewmatics ((chowyunmat)):

BORSTAL BOY by Brendan Behan is a fantastic tale of growing up. Also, for all you Murakami heads, his main translator, Jay Rubin, has a book out about him early next year - Murakami, The Music of Words. Great title, I think you'll all agree!

Date: Mon Dec 31 07:24
Blaine (@work):

Em -- if you are still on the hunt here's a few biographies that come to mind: Really the Blues by Mezz Mezzrow; Edie Sedgewick by George Plimpton; Beneath the Underdog by Charles Mingus; If they Move, Kill 'em (Sam Peckinpah - not sure of the author)

Date: Mon Dec 31 06:08
erwin (wishing):

well.. time is here to dress sharp.. may O2 contain a lot of that! have a good one all!

Date: Sun Dec 30 21:37
e (m):

**Well, Erwin-you've sold me! That's a great name:)

Date: Sun Dec 30 19:13
erwin (_- again -_):

oh, and 'how bluegrass music destroyed my life' by john fahey will crack you up! everyone here, if you haven't already -- try to get a hold of that one!

Date: Sun Dec 30 18:50
erwin (_-):

em.. say the bookstores were all closed today and you would want to wander off again tomorrow. 'my last sigh' by luis buñuel. a book i 'lent out' once -- never seen it again.. an absolute must for a book written by a filmmaker. honest passionate revealing surreal..

Date: Sun Dec 30 17:17
e (m*):

wow! ask and ye shal recieve..thanks y'all! better wrangle up some more money once again..Hey, james-I read positively fourth street sort of by accident& it was sort of interesting--made me feel mighty sorry for joan baez. also, did you know mimi died a short time ago? well I'm off to buy a book or two:)

Date: Sun Dec 30 17:02
james s (Re: bio):

I enjoyed the biography Karen Armstrong did on Buddha for the Penguin Lives series. There's a bunch of interesting looking stuff in that series of biographies. I just bought the one on Dante, but haven't read it yet. My wife is reading Edie by Jean Stein and is enjoying it. I'm reading Positively 4th Street by David Hajdu which is sort of a biography , I guess, ( about Joan and mimi Baez, Dylan, and Richard Farina in the early sixties) and it's kind of fun.

Date: Sun Dec 30 15:41
Mitch (last one really, I promise):

Don't think it's in-print any longer, but if you can find William S. Barring-Gould's fictional biography of Sherlock Holmes (Sherlock Holmes of Baker St. it's called), I'd say snatch it up. It's written like a straight forward and well-researched biography, as if ol' Holmes had been born and lived to be 103 on his bee farm in Sussex (no clue is given that this person didn't actually exist). Very clever and deceptive, and apparently hard to find.

Date: Sun Dec 30 15:36
Mitch (once again, sorry):

One last one...which isn't a human biography as such, but a biography none the less and quite interesting: Alfred K. Mann's Shadow Of A Star (the neutrino story of supernova 1987a).

Date: Sun Dec 30 15:34
Mitch (again):

Just remembered...one of the best biographies I've ever read was Ray Monk's Ludwig Wittgenstein: The Duty of Genius. Also, Robert Kennedy & His Times by Arthur M. Schlesinger. Seems I'm falling way short of putting any women in here, so perhaps someone else can cover the other half of the sky a little better. Oh, yeah, In Exile From The Land Of Snows by John F. Avedon, which is the definitive account of the Dalai Lama and Tibet since the Chinese conquest.

Date: Sun Dec 30 15:23
Mitch (My Life As A Log):

Hey, em...tryin' to think of auto/biographies for you. I really liked Peter O'Toole's autobiography, just can't remember it's name. And John Nathan's biography on Mishima (called just Mishima) is fascinating. The Last Tsar: The Life & Death of Nicholas II by Edvard Radzinsky is good.

Date: Sun Dec 30 14:59
lindsey in tucson (lbar9109@aol.com):

hey howe....great night of music here last night ....wanted to thank you for making my friend from modesto who came up to you to profess much love feel so at home...and i think that team of you, naim, walbank, doug smith , and convertino was the winner of the night. thanks again

Date: Sun Dec 30 13:24
**e (mm**):

***A question should you choose to answer. I am in need of a book and am thinking a biography. What's the best and most interesting biography or i guess autobiograohy out there? sand people of inherit good taste! I beacon you:)

Date: Sun Dec 30 12:37
spoink n cranky (gatekeeper):

thanks frak. we will keep the next watch. we never sleep.

Date: Sun Dec 30 11:59
frak (()):

Guess what, bird...no one cares.

Date: Sun Dec 30 10:33
Mitch (taters & tots):

Great show last night at Solar Culture, hard to explain, kinda got going and then stopped and the rumbled some and then slowed--like jump-starting a car that finally roared to full glory. Toward the end of the show, Howe gave Joey his Xmas gift: a magic motion/lava lamp, which then was removed from its packaging and glowed onstage a bit during the concluding "Satellite". Was so good hearing "Sage Advice", and fabulous covers throughout: "The Beat Goes On" indeed. Trains came and went. Pennies got flattened.

Date: Sat Dec 29 13:19
Paul S. (doga@theriver.com):

What happened to Howe last night? I thought he was gonna play?

Date: Sat Dec 29 12:48
di (lucky you, tracey):

you're so right being this happy - enjoy the 'valley of rain/ballad of a thin line man' cd, they are two faaaantastic albums ! the only sad part is that "barrio" one of the greatest giant sand songs, from the 'valley of rain', is not included in this cd...but you can also find it on the first 'giant songs' collection - so, this year is leaving us and the best albums for 2001 aaare: howe-'confluence', nick cave + the bad seeds-'no more shall we part', bob dylan-'love and theft'.....with songs like "3 sisters", "vex(paris)","pedal steel and she'll", "cold" and "available space", 'confluence' turned out to be an amAzing album - that's the great thing about howe's music - from the 1985's 'valley of rain' to the 2001's 'confluence' it never ever ceases to surprise us again and again giving us melodies that will keep us company through the days and the nights, the best and the worse, through our hopes and our dreams - hope it won't be long till the new solo album gets realised that'll be the best gift for the new year to come - mmm m...yeah..can you think of anything better ???? ....I WANNA COME to the giant sand SHOW tonight !!!!!!....but az is sooooo far away...pif!

Date: Sat Dec 29 12:15
Rob Stanier (Robtstanier@aol.com):

James S. The film you caught a little of was Matewan. Great movie. Seems Will was a bit of a child actor at one point. He also crops up in Harmoy Korines Julien Donkey Boy but has spoke of his distaste for the uninteresting roles he was offered early on. Have you seen Requiem For A Dream? No Oldham but great film.

Date: Sat Dec 29 10:53
tracey (happy in halifax-no hurricane):

today on my way back from the market i was drawn to the used cd store. what the heck i'll take a look (like i always do) for some sand action. not expecting to find anything (like i always do) i was humbly surprised to find not only Swerve but also a combo of a Valley of Rain/Ballad of a Thin Line Man! yeehaw. i just had to tell someone! happy holidays to all.

Date: Sat Dec 29 07:03
james bridges (jdzbridges@hotmail.com):

"scenic" was a band based in sedona, az and as far as i know only put out one record in '96..

Date: Sat Dec 29 01:32
geoff (swerve):

Great Calexico show tonight. I wish I could make it to tomorrow's Giant Sand show too. Happy Holidays Howe and co.

Date: Fri Dec 28 18:02
peter s. (to archivist: sandman series):

... jim, the giant sand show i'd really love to see (or hear) again is the one the band played back in nov. 1989 (guess it was): howe, john and mark walton; arena, vienna, austria: a four hour lasting no-shit-forget-all-you-have-heared-before-rock-until-you-drop-kick-ass-convert-your-grandmother-rock-and-roll-set. a show that urges the audience to go outside; buy a guitar, a bass and a drumkit and praise the word: R O C K!

Date: Fri Dec 28 13:16
james s (boo hoo):

have fun all you'uns that are getting to be at Solar Culture this weekend. I'll be housesitting for a friend who has a tv and vcr, catching up on some flick action. Got to see a little bit of a movie on television over there yesterday afternoon about striking west virginia coal miners, starring no other than a young Will Oldham. ha. Listening to Oh Yeah (mingus) as I write. Lovely. Bye.

Date: Fri Dec 28 09:50
Greg Haldane (gmhaldane@hotmail.com):

Thanks for the doggie name suggestions! I will run them by H.R. Puppenstuff and see if he responds to any name in particular. I'm glad to hear that his Howeness will be performing tonight. It would be nice to put some faces with the names that I always see on this board. I will be wearing a red rose in my lapel so that you can recognize me. J/K.

Date: Fri Dec 28 08:41
fracas (kxci):

I'll be there.............

Date: Fri Dec 28 08:34
Archivist (....):

Mr Gelb will join Calexico for tonight's show, but no solo set is planned... Great rehearsals from both Giant Sand and Calexico last night at Solar Culture.. We will broadcast the 1st show live tonight starting at 8:30 PM on KXCI and when it is over we plan on airing the Barbican (most or all of it) from last November.. Thanks Howe!. That will start sometime around 1 AM or so...

Date: Thu Dec 27 17:57
Geoff (Solar Culture show):

I too hope Howe has not cancelled the Friday show...I'll be leaving AZ on Saturday and hope to catch the Friday show before taking off. I'll be driving down from Phx., so if anyone knows for sure please post....i'll check the message board before heading down there...gracias

Date: Thu Dec 27 14:51
j (re:dog-name):

"Slow Cut" (Works best if you live in a shopping cart hut)

Date: Thu Dec 27 12:38
Jim Kotsonas (schlaff@pacbell.net):

Hey all, Hope everyone's holidays have been good and safe so far. Just wondering if there was any artwork still available for the very first "Sandman Series" release. Thanks, and take care. Jim

Date: Thu Dec 27 12:24
Blaine (Pt II):

..not to be too further coincidental, but my ex used to have a pit bull named Mingus.

Date: Thu Dec 27 12:22
Blaine (@work):

Greg -- my black and white Border Collie mutt came from the pound as well. Her name was Sonic (orig in homage to the MC5, but also an apt description of her, as it turned out.) While not a master food thief she could catch veggies before they hit the ground like she had radar. Get her chasing a frisbee and you will tire before he does. Everything they say about dogs are true when it comes to these kind. Nice work.

Date: Thu Dec 27 11:01
Mitch (er...oops...):

Oh, sorry, just saw that you already mentioned what kind of dog. My fault, haven't had my coffee yet.

Date: Thu Dec 27 10:59
james s (Re: Greg):

if you ever have to put one of those lampshade thingies on his neck to keep him from chewing himself up (you've seen those, right?), you could call him Lester.

Date: Thu Dec 27 10:58
Mitch (year of the dog):

Greg, what about "Lester" if he sleeps a lot, or "Faithful" if he comes right to you when you call, or "Catapult" if he zooms after sticks, perhaps "Not Good" for stealing food, or "Francoise" if it somehow fits. Come to think of it, if he chews up a lot around your house you could call him "Hard On Things." What kind of dog did ya get? Did Em end up naming the cat?

Date: Thu Dec 27 10:21
james s (Re: greg):

I don't know if Black Saint is the one or not (shrink writing liner notes), haven't really had the chance to look and listen yet with all of this holiday craziness. I look forward to a peaceful moment to dig into it. I don't know if Howe has cancelled or not for friday at SC. Anyone??

Date: Thu Dec 27 10:17
Greg Haldane (gmhaldane@hotmail.com):

Can anyone think of a good Sand-related name for my new Christmas pound pooch? He's a little black and white border collie mutt. He's a terrible mooch and a master food thief.

Date: Thu Dec 27 10:16
james s (Re:):

well, Gatekeeper, if you were to go back and correct misspellings, it would save me from having to correct myself with a second post everytime I try to say something on this board. (just kidding)

Date: Thu Dec 27 10:15
Greg Haldane (gmhaldane@hotmail.com):

James S, Black Saint and the Sinner Lady is one of my favorite Mingus albums too. Is that the album where his shrink writes the liner notes for him? I've been listening to Ah-Um a lot lately. Me and my little doggie dig it. Anyone know if the Mingus Mts in Arizona are named after Charles? FYI, Mingus was born in Nogales, AZ.

Date: Thu Dec 27 10:07
the gaurdian ((gate keeper)):

Dear James You are correct in your assumtion that there is now facilitation to lean on the deletion of that which has become bothersome. Happy new year. Your pals - Spoink n Cranky

Date: Thu Dec 27 07:22
james s (ARRGGGHHHH!):

...what made frak so mad. that's what I meant to say.

Date: Thu Dec 27 07:18
james s (Yo, Mike...):

... now I see what you mean by "editing". I, for one, am glad to see that you have a tool to prevent someone from abusing and poisoning this board. You've shown patience by waiting until now to use this tool, which suggests you are not quick to censor and won't abuse it. So, as far as I'm concerned, bravo. Of course, some of the continuity is lost and any visitors just reading through the comments might wonder what made frak so made. ha.

Date: Thu Dec 27 06:57
Greg Haldane (gmhaldane@hotmail.com):

Greetings all! Does anyone know if Howe has cancelled his appearance this Friday at Solar Culture? My friends Juli/Jay and I were counting on seeing him that night as they are returning home on Saturday after the holidays. Say it ain't so Howe! I would also like to comment on what a great forum this board has become. Even though I haven't contributed much lately I've been actively reading your comments - terrific stuff.

Date: Thu Dec 27 02:42
Guni (snowed in...):

Yes, a very HAPPY NEW YEAR to anybody out there. And to the lucky ones in Tucson (like Mitch): have fun at the Almost-New-Year-Events, I have to admit that I envy you!!!!!

Date: Thu Dec 27 01:36
Sean (URRGGHH !):

Urrgghh ! Back at work already .

Date: Thu Dec 27 01:00
Mitch (Oh...):

And belated Xmas/Holiday greetings to my very extended family here in Sandland. Good knowing you folks are here, and I hope 2002 brings wonderment and all that you deserve & need.

Date: Thu Dec 27 00:57
Mitch (trailways bus turning west):

Sorry, no idea what "Scenic" is, besides certain state-sanctioned highways and biways. All right, in response to an earlier put forth question here--I finally picked through this year's faves and came up with a semi-list (non-Sand/Howe, right?). In no order: The Shins "Oh, Inverted World"; Gillian Welch "Time (The Revelator)"; Ryan Adams "Gold"; Jim White "No Such Place"; Cannibal Ox "The Cold Vein"; Aterciopelados "Gozo Poderoso"; Leonard Cohen "Ten New Songs"; New Order "Get Ready"; Mark Eitzel "The Invisible Man"; Joe Strummer & The Mescaleros "Global A Go-Go"; Gorillaz "Gorillaz"; Bob Dylan "Love & Theft". Of course, really, how can I leave "Confluence" by just Howe out? All right, okay, was hard to pick stuff this year--not sure if 2000 was better, or maybe I've been too busy, but my 2001 batch was harder to sort through. Will say that I think it was a strong year for the old guard, with Dylan, Jagger, & McCartney all putting out decent work.

Date: Wed Dec 26 16:32
j (@the-woodpile):

Very quiet here over the holiday. Much love and understanding goes out to all parents reading this. Out into the frost in the morning:( Does Howe or anyone else from Arizona (Or anywhere) know of a musical experience called 'Scenic'?

Date: Wed Dec 26 07:05
james s (a little frost but no snow):

I hope everyone is having a good holiday season. Hey, Santa must be paying attention to the recommendations for music listed on this message board. He (well, she) brought me Black Saint and Sinner Lady (Mingus) yesterday. As for nonSand in 2001, I didn't hit on too much this year apart from Giant Sand. Musically, Sand has been my monomania in 2001. I've listened to other things I'd not paid much attention to before (silver jews, pavement, friends of d.m., stereolab, sparklehorse, palace, granddaddy, etc...) and liked much of it, but nothing hit me with the impact that Chore did. Backyard BbQ and Hisser too. The Matt Ward record was a good thing. Well, cheers.

Date: Tue Dec 25 23:24
J (lordouch@aol.):

So I finally made it to see Amelie the other day and just in case anyone has been left wondering who the amazing twangstress in the b/w video might be... the credit roll mentions Sister Rosetta Tharpe performing "Up Above My Head". wild. J.

Date: Tue Dec 25 21:17
e (m):

**My the website is looking snazzy--do we get the little falling face things year-round??

Date: Tue Dec 25 09:39
mike (the real me - at home - merry - full - sleepy):

I'd go along with that.....Happy Christmas all..... and thanks to all those who have made it the year it has been.

Date: Tue Dec 25 09:07
howe (home):

HAPPY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE....AND A PEACEFUL NEW YEAR

Date: Tue Dec 25 00:00
Rob Stanier (Robtstanier@aol.com):

To all the friends ive made on this site in the last year or so, have a wonderful Christmas and a prosperous new year. Much love to you and yours. Howe, thanks for another year of class music. Rob, Nat and Thomas Casper(6 weeks now)

Sleep dreams.....more goodies tommorrow.

Date: Mon Dec 24 18:32
e (m):

*looking good in mojo by the way:)

Date: Mon Dec 24 16:26
PAUL (P.KERR@NTLWORLD.COM):

Is that snow? Merry Xmas to all the Sand Family, including Sophie. Paul

Date: Mon Dec 24 15:31
em) (************************************):

*Christmas greetings to those who like christmas& a wonderful 2002!!!!!!! Keep on rocking and rolling and everything else:)

Date: Mon Dec 24 14:26
tom (happy editing):

a very nice hoopla and hat to all of you.

Date: Mon Dec 24 10:58
matt (HOHOHO):

AND A MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU ALL.

Merry Christmas Everyone!

Date: Mon Dec 24 08:35
mike (webster master):

How's my editing? I know, I should have just corrected the spelling.

Date: Mon Dec 24 06:04
di (merry christmas sand lovers !):

i wish we'll all spend them with the people we love along with the company of some fine giant sand mucic

Date: Mon Dec 24 00:26
flop (flop@flop.com):

Howe Christmas!!!

Date: Sun Dec 23 22:22
Tommy Gailer (scroll a ding dong):

Have a fine christmas ya all and hopefully good start into 2002. My year starts with Howe`s live shows (is there a better way to start?)and at the 27th Dec i will head to Barbara M`s and the Twins`concert in my hometown.

Date: Sat Dec 22 15:25
phil (pz123@aol.com):

Got all the info re the solar culture shows thru a link on the calexico page! see you there (on the 29th; can't do the 28th), Phil

Date: Sat Dec 22 15:16
phil (pz123@aol.com):

What time does the Solar Culture show start/doors open, etc? Thanks Mitch

Date: Sat Dec 22 14:13
howe (home):

hey mitch...got the bounty of books....a stunning collection...thanks so much......(it strange to read the first chapter of the vanishing elephant with a whole nuther translater then the same relative chapter in the wind-up bird chronicle...) as for you order, can't we just call it a swap o media....so, get in touch and we'll get you your cd(s).....for those folks who are out-a-here for a holiday gone-a-way, i hope you all have a thick and rich time over christmas and get to catch up with ol friends and family....god bless us all everyone.

Date: Sat Dec 22 12:43
Mitch (uh...let's see...):

Well, Phil, correct me if I'm wrong (and I probably am), but isn't the Westin in the Foothills area (way north of downtown)? In any case, just know that Solar Culture is in downtown Tucson. If you can find Stone, and you're north of downtown, take Stone past University, past 6th, then you'll dip under the railroad tracks, and to your immediate left will be--uh, hm--Toole, I think (you'll wanna turn left there, and Solar Culture is right there to your right(it's kinda hidden, but look for various art pieces, sculpture, mural or something). The backside of the building, which contains other studios, art spaces, etc., is adjacent to the railroad tracks. So perhaps just park and ask someone who looks like they know where they are (believe it or not, can be difficult sometimes downtown). Also, there's a dance club called The Metro, which is on the corner of Stone/Toole--so you can use that as a signpost: Solar Culture is across the street from it, a wee bit northeast I suppose, but you'll be close, very very close at that point. Hope that helps, or makes any sense. Worst case, call Steve Eye or someone else there and just ask directions.

Date: Sat Dec 22 11:11
phil (pz123@aol.com):

Could a Tusconite be so kind as to tell me where Solar Culture isin relation to the Westin La Paloma? We caught GS & Calexico last New Years in Chicago & this year we will be in Tucson. Please help me get my bearings right. Thanks, Phil

Date: Sat Dec 22 11:03
phil (pz123@aol.com):

Favorite nonSand albums of the year: Silos, Laser Beam Next Door; King Crimson, Heavy Construction; Leonard Cohen, Ten New Songs; Ratdog, Live at Rosemont; Gillian Welch (can't recall the title & don't have it here); Jack Bruce, Shadows in the Air; Iain Matthew & Elliot Murphy, La Terre Commune.

Date: Sat Dec 22 08:25
Erik (Harvieux@hotmail.com):

Id have to say that Hisser is just plain amazing."This purple child","Explore you" are my favs but the whole record is a classic work and holds much staying power if any of you havent heard it treat yourself to an extra christmas gift.Thanks Howe.

Date: Sat Dec 22 08:05
di (really now):

wHy people take drugs when howe's music exists ????????

Date: Sat Dec 22 08:02
di ("purge + slouch " again & again & again & ...):

and i'm not exaggerating one bit when i say it's one of the best records from the beginning of music..the record that would make any rocker rave with enthusiasm and any jazz player feel jealous! it's more than 'a record', more than a story to be told it's an entire world, an unlimited world full of colours, senses, spices and cicadas ! it caaaaarries you away takes you to places you never even drEAmed existed...trust me!put on "purge + slouch" and enjOy the ride the best drug in the world could nEVer give you !

Date: Sat Dec 22 05:05
richie ((absent from board for too long)):

missed this board last few months - virus wiped pc - but now firewall is up and can catch up. Nice to see familiar names still posting. End of year polls coming up so....what was your musical discovery this year ?(please don't included sand! sorry howe:)we already love your music. old,new just as long as i touched you love to all this xmas

Date: Sat Dec 22 03:22
erwin (_-):

mitch -- try derek jarman's 'caravaggio' - quite odd. seen that a couple of times now. maybe it says more about jarman than the 16th/17th century painter, but the created atmosphere is worth watching it.... it snows over here in the land of rubens -- very baroque -- i will be 7 years old again today. goodday all.

Date: Sat Dec 22 02:19
Mitch (video rental of the week):

Victor Enrice's "Dream Of Light"--the best film I've seen so far on painting.

Date: Fri Dec 21 15:43
Rob Stanier(hissing) (Robtstanier@aol.com):

Hisser was the one that did it for me. Had never heard of Howe or The Sand before and was sorting out some stock to return to suppliers at the record store I work at. As much as i hate to say it Hisser was on the list and im a sucker for buying albums because of their covers. Thought it looked interesting and noticed Grandaddy appeared on a track who I was heavily into at the time. Very nice album, Explore you seems to be a perfect version captured without realising it.Shy of Bumf**k, excellent title. Started me on the long road to Sandom. Have not looked back since. Peace and Goodwill to all. Love Rob, Nat and Thomas Casper, hes 6 weeks and counting.XXX

Date: Fri Dec 21 14:06
whoops (the light is too bright):

possession

Date: Fri Dec 21 14:05
james s (let's wait for the blackout):

Why, no sir, I have neither heard nor gained posession of Down Home. However, your comment about it will haunt me until I do.

Date: Fri Dec 21 13:52
Mitch (well, hey there, James):

No Unsung as of yet, my friend. But mail hasn't come today, so fingers crossed. Just read your "Hisser" comments, and was wondering if you picked up Down Home 2000 yet? I tend to listen to those two back-to-back.

Date: Fri Dec 21 13:29
james s (yawn):

you got your Unsung yet, Mitch? I'm hoping there will still be stock (and some of the rock opera years too) when I get my order off next week.

Date: Fri Dec 21 11:33
frak (()):

For the record, I'm in no way associated with Howe or Patti. So if you wanna spew your dumbfounding bile, Bird--spill it my way.

Date: Fri Dec 21 11:13
frak (()):

Hey, Bird...your pic is gone. We've suffered your idiotic ramblings long enough. Stick to your end of the bargain now...and get lost! And lay off Patti, you freak!

Date: Fri Dec 21 08:30
js (Re: Di):

I envy your hope and enthusiasm, Di. It alarms me that 140,000 people could carry out a peaceful demonstration and I can't find a mention of it in the popular media. The big networks know who butters their bread. People complain about a media on the left, the "liberal media". What a joke. A corporate-sponsored news media won't go anywhere near the left. I'd be happy if it could just get in the middle, and the real middle, like somewhere between Pat Buchanan and Noam Chomsky. The middle these days is somewhere between Pat and Al Gore. Sorry, this isn't the place, but......

Date: Fri Dec 21 06:20
tHom (santa's grotto):

Di, well done on making a difference. It sounds like an effective demonstration. Happy holidays to all in sandland.

Date: Fri Dec 21 05:17
di (hey, i have photos):

for anyone interested

Date: Fri Dec 21 05:16
di (back):

hello guys...what a demonstration ! 140 000 people -english, scots, irish, belgian, french, spanish, portuguese, refuges, workers, students, anticatitalists, anarchists, activists, ecologists all together we marched for a world where PEOPLE will be BEFORE PROFIT - loooved the scots and the irish, they are soo full of life, so crazy, so wild simply wonderful! it wasn't just a demonstration it's a fight, a fight to change this world and when you're there you realize how powerful your voice is "NOT IN MY NAME-STOP THIS BLOODY WAR!" "SELL SOME ROCKETS TO BUILD SOME SCHOOLS !!" and the streets got full of so many colours you wouldn't believe it! such such inspiration cause this earth needs PEACE FOOD + EDUCATION and you know what ? they are G8-we are 6000000000 and that's why we will win!- we didn't violate the red zone it was a peaceful anti-war demonstration so no coalitions happened-thanks for your concern!

Date: Thu Dec 20 15:58
james s (Re: Rob & John):

sounds sweet, these parties of tomorrow so far away from me. Again, I must say, Hisser is a pleasure. Yes, I know most of you knew this long ago. "Explore You" is heaven. Just the sound of the record, the production (this ain't your standard "lo fi", many perfect sounds happening at perfect times) , the humor and the sadness, the song order, just wonderful. I wish there were more records like this in the world, with all of these right ingredients, and put together so well.

Date: Thu Dec 20 15:29
john (again, nowhere near here):

There's also an All Tomorrow's Parties at the UCLA campus, curated by Sonic Youth, with the Boredoms, Big Star, Television, Destroy All Monsters, Wilco, and a bunch more. Don't know about any chalets or anything as I won't be within a couple thousand miles of either one, but it might be a little more doable for those of you closer to sonoraland.

Date: Thu Dec 20 12:56
Rob Stanier (Robtstanier@aol.com):

James All tomorrows parties happens once a year in April in the South of england at a place called Camber Sands by the seaside. Each year a different curator hand picks the bands. Last year it was Tortoise. they palyed a blinder as did Television, Calexico, Lambchop, Boards of Canada, US Maple and many more. The cost is £105.00 and for this you get a chalet for the 3 nights so no kipping in a wet field. Last year was amazing and this year the curators are Shellac. Bands confirmed so far are Smog, Bonnie Prince Billy, The Fall, Breeders, Plush, Wire and yes, Tom Verlaine and lashings more. Theres loads more info on the website www.alltomorrowsparties.co.uk and it also gives a full listing of the bands playing. I would highly recommend it. Best weekend I had last year and probably will be next year. All the best.Rob.UK Ps Howe get yourself on the bill and it truly will be a heavenly weekend.

Date: Thu Dec 20 10:49
bird (spanish harlem):

Oh, I thought it was Roman Catholic. I heard Lou Reed and John Cage there...I'm glad the fire is out...never did go to a service but I usta run my dog Larry across the North part of Central Park over to the church...I sorta stuck out but ol Lars was fierce...nobody messed with me.

Date: Thu Dec 20 06:37
john (elsewhere):

Mission of Burma - two NYC shows and one in Boston in January. check www.missionofburma.com (where else?) They do post this caveat: WARNING: we will probably be as sloppy and uneven this century as we were the last.

Date: Thu Dec 20 00:38
Sean (mission of burma):

Blaine , on the All Tomorrows Parties web-site , it's got Mission of Burma listed . Worth going just for them .Sean

Date: Wed Dec 19 13:05
james s (but, actually):

that NPR thing may have been just about Roger Miller being back in action with Binary System.

Date: Wed Dec 19 12:55
james s (Re:):

Seems like I heard an interview on NPR recently concerning Mission of Burma's going back into action, Blaine. Guess it's true. It's really quiet in here. Greg Brown said, "it's raining sheets of rain, everything is cold and wet, nobody's going out of doors, they're all at home living it up on the internet, so i guess nobody's lonely any more, 'cept you and me babe..." Well, here I am indoors on the internet, and I think I'm the only one. I'm out of here, going to get out into the cold and wet, where the action is. You all have yourselves a happy holiday. Oh, and Hisser is wonderful, glad I finally got my hands on it.

Date: Wed Dec 19 10:16
innis (whomever@innis.co.uk):

All Tomorrows parties? Is that the weekender at Camber Sands? I heard Tom Verlaine was appearing, and the Breeders, and Cheap Trick! Can it be true? I may, or must, attend..... see you there.....

Date: Wed Dec 19 08:30
Blaine (@work):

Is this true? Mission of Burma back in action??

Date: Wed Dec 19 04:27
Inked w/ Sand (ghog220@cs.com):

check out Das Boot Directors cut on DVD in english with subtitles off most enjoyable very grabbing and timeless

Date: Wed Dec 19 02:53
Sean (All Tomorrows Parties):

And Mission of Burma ?!?

Date: Wed Dec 19 00:20
JC BROCHARD (jc.brochard@wanadoo.fr):

Re : Amelie (which I am still to see...), I just remembered yesterday that on Yann Tiersen's last proper album (Tiersen did the music for Amelie), there's a song, "Parade", sung by... Lisa Germano !!! Also, Tiersen shares his French label with none other than Amor Belhom Duo... Isn't it a small world ? JC, perso.wanadoo.fr/vivonzeureux

Date: Tue Dec 18 14:38
james s (all tomorrow's parties):

wow, where and when is this? Europe, I suppose.

Date: Tue Dec 18 14:06
matt (Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh):

and Low as well. and Godspeed!

Date: Tue Dec 18 14:02
R Stanier (Robtstanier@aol.com):

Ladies & Gentlemen. Imagine my suprise at finding an import copy of Swerve in the racks of the big corporate record shop I assistant manage here in the uk. The lord was indeed shining down on me today. Anybody else going to All Tomorrows Parties next year. Shellac, Smog, Bonnie Prince, Plush to name but a few. Very cold here in the UK but very happy. Rob Stanier. Ps The Boy is doing well.

Date: Tue Dec 18 10:53
blockhead (blockhead):

London's burning? It's actually an Episcopal cathedral.

Date: Tue Dec 18 09:59
Adrian (underthesurface):

Howe & co.'s Barbican show got voted best gig of the year in the Xmas TimeOut in London..much deserved...

Date: Tue Dec 18 09:47
bird (avalon):

Rome is burning....St. John's Divine.

Date: Tue Dec 18 08:17
james s (infant holiday dress?):

Later, Poot. Perhaps Eugene can be the guest vocalist on the next OP8 project.

Date: Tue Dec 18 07:04
poot (whoopeee):

Alright, school's done for the year, so I'm unplugging the computer til january. Can't wait to see what I'll miss. Happy whatever everybody. It's boozin' time. -gone:poot-

Date: Mon Dec 17 21:00
Mitch (a used pair of sneakers):

Now if we can just get Eugene to do "Yer Ropes"!

Date: Mon Dec 17 20:22
james s (sunday bloody sunday):

that's funny as hell, Mitch.

Date: Mon Dec 17 20:12
Mitch (Sorry, just had to pass this on...for some reason):

www.eugenemirman.com

Date: Mon Dec 17 14:48
james s (sorry,):

didn't mean to do that.

Date: Mon Dec 17 14:46
james s (Re:):

I'll add another voice to the Barbican for Sandman chorus.

Date: Mon Dec 17 14:46
james s (Re:):

I'll add another voice to the Barbican for Sandman chorus.

Date: Mon Dec 17 14:37
Archivist (...!):

Thanks for all the suggestions and I'll see what I can come up with..

Date: Mon Dec 17 12:17
tom (here here, how , how ):

Jim , I would be very happy to relive the Barbican show. Seems like we have a majority, people. Also any concert Rainer and Howe did, would be a treat.

Date: Mon Dec 17 11:57
Wolf (still suggesting):

Any questions? … just kidding! Jim, why not organise a Sandman Series suggestion poll? Provide this addicted lot a series of possible Sandman Series releases, we could even suggest possible release titles for this grain of sonic sand! ‘Any questions?’ would be a nice 'twinkle of the eye’ option …

Date: Mon Dec 17 10:55
james s (Re:):

I'll add another voice to the Barbican for Sandman chorus.

Date: Mon Dec 17 10:46
Wolf (suggesting):

Jim, I heard the Barbican show was grand … any chance putting this on the Sandman Series#6? …

Date: Mon Dec 17 09:20
sammy (pommelos@hotmail.com):

Howe,tell me where you want me to send you the tape.

Date: Mon Dec 17 09:04
james s (back to the grind):

went to a good art show this weekend at Yeehaw Industries in Knoxville (great posters and such from woodblock letterpress), www.yeehawindustries.com, bought a little matchbox Marc Bolan shrine. Good time. Went into an new/used locally owned cd store and picked up Valley of Rain and Hisser. Woo hoo!

Date: Mon Dec 17 08:05
erwin (_-):

jim.. the online audio on mike's sawaro.com -- i believe it's darmstadt 2000.

Date: Mon Dec 17 01:32
Mitch (hands up):

I second Stefan on the Beyond Nashville suggestion.

Date: Mon Dec 17 00:33
Stefan (StefanRoehrich@t-online.de):

Hi Jim, suggestions for the tree, to name just a few: a Blacky show, the Regensburg show from 1995 (the one the Searchlight version on "Juxtaposition" is taken from), the Munich Theaterfabrik show from 27 January 1992 (if there is a soundboard recording of that show, which was the second show I've seen & which really blew me away back then), the entire Barbican Beyond Nashville concert (or will there be an official release?), the Rainer memorial show with Polly Jean, one of the Howe & Rainer shows from Germany in 1994 - all these are shows on my wish list; I'd also be interested in recordings of the more recent shows in Italy, and Greece, and France - I'd like to know what Giant Sand sounds like there, if there are any noticeable ambient influences. ....... All the best to you all.

Date: Mon Dec 17 00:02
Archivist (archive@giantsand.com):

Well, now that I have the archive back together (after a move) - I am ready to add another MP3 track to the Archive section "Giant Stream".. Any suggestions? How about any suggestions for the next Sandman release??

Date: Sun Dec 16 21:12
Mitch (scooped):

No owements needed, would be my pleasure give weight to your stocking. So tracked the sucker down, dusted it with a quick whistle--and it'll be off to Ow Om at first light.

Date: Sun Dec 16 19:25
howe (home):

boxed plop you say....vanishing el ephant style....there is a sandy claws afterall ....thanx mitchster, i gotta hand full a gimme and mouth full of much obliged---------h(OWE) you one

Date: Sun Dec 16 18:39
Mitch (4th color layer):

Howe, hope the dip after Wind-Up isn't too drastic--for it's a fine fine book. Have you chanced into Murakami's Norwegian Wood or South of the Border, West of the Sun yet? I do believe I've got an extra copy of his Elephant Vanishes collection somewhere in the stacks--if you want it I'll plop it in the box tomorrow.

Date: Sun Dec 16 18:17
poot (...):

No thanks to the dreaded black ice on steps leading up to my front door. This poor boy almost broke some bones today. Amelie seems to be quite the rage on this page. I gotta wait a couple weeks before the local art house brings it to town. Just barely got Mulholland Drive last week. awesome. boozin' time. -pt

Date: Sun Dec 16 15:55
tracey (popcorn makes me want to watch movies):

and movies make me want to eat popcorn. it's settled then...i'm off to the theatre to see Amelie. thanks sand people for helping me off the sofa and on to the theatre. the only one left with a balcony in my town

Date: Sun Dec 16 14:45
peter s. (Thanks, Howe! ):

Just the appropriate Gelb-Dosage: Wow! You choose a weekend for your tour dates in Austria! Friday to Sunday - thanks, thanks and thanks again, Howe! That's gonna be truly exciting - see You there!

Date: Sun Dec 16 14:34
sam (my):

For those who loved the film : www.amelie-lefilm.com/english/intro.htm

Date: Sun Dec 16 14:23
sammy (° "+" °):

Howe,they just told me that "Amélie Poulain" is going to be for sale very soon(at the end of the month). So,deal...

Date: Sun Dec 16 14:10
Sammy (le renard):

howe,I can do this for you and especially if it permits me to have a talk with you.The tape of Amélie is not already for sale here in Paris but I know how to do.Tell me when,I 'll be there.

Date: Sun Dec 16 13:18
Tokyo Rose (.):

sorry for my breaking such an amorous river of comments I wrote while listening to Confluence. who is amélie? sorry for my bad slang:cheers from Italia

Date: Sun Dec 16 13:17
Tokyo Rose (.):

sorry for my breaking such an amorous river of comments I wrote while listening to Confluence. who is amélie? sorry for my bad slang:cheers from Italia

Date: Sun Dec 16 12:28
howe (home):

yeah mitch.....just finished the wind-up bird chronicle.....now i am in withdrawl from that which was the book....as for the videotape in amelie...who was that mysterious women playing the stunning white gibson SG guitar....working the neck like nothing i've ever seen (or seemingly heard)....in front of the chorus of gospel singers ??????????????????...wish i had a loop of that alone......somewhere it is on videotape.....and sammy, you must be the man for the job.....get that tape, son...and i'll meet you at the brasssrie terminus du nord for la canard and the nuit st. george vin is on me. deal ?

Date: Sun Dec 16 12:11
Tokyo Rose (ro_bj@hotmail.com):

MERAVIGLIOSA MUSICA

Date: Sun Dec 16 11:08
Sammy (ya no):

howe,if you liked "Amélie" you must come here in Paris. YOU PLAY EVERYWHERE IN EUROPE AND YOU DON'T COME IN FRANCE? I remember that the last time you came here (with PJ Harvey),I was thrown away from the "Olympia" by the guards while I was trying to met you.So I have never seen you live.Please come back...

Date: Sun Dec 16 10:59
Sammy (je n'ai pas d'adresse e mail parce que c'est vraiement bizarre,les virus,les chiens ,les chats,les lapins et tout le reste,le facteur au moins il est sympa et de toutes facons Howe ne réponds pas aux mails.):

"Amélie Poulain" is great and great music too.

Date: Sun Dec 16 09:04
Mitch (cola-coka):

Yeah, Tommy, I think it's a combination of the eyes and the hair, and maybe something else in the actress' demeanour. You know, if Mrs. Hepburn were just starting out--and it was 2001--this might be the kind of thing she'd be doing. Like a modern Sabrina--'cept way different. Mayb

Date: Wed Dec 12 17:09
Colin (Leaving):

Well, my last rainy day in Oregon is upon me. Soon I will be drenched with the sun and the loud car horns of California...am I ready? I can hardly wait.

Date: Wed Dec 12 16:51
tom (benigni):

I scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream.

Date: Wed Dec 12 16:09
Mitch (me talk pretty one day):

That's a hoot, Stephen!!! Brought to mind David Sedaris' essay on learning French (Jesus Shaves): "He call his self Jesus and then he die one day on two...morsels of...lumber. He die one day and then he go above my head to live with your father."

Date: Wed Dec 12 15:35
Stephen M.H. Braitman (braitman@mindspring.com):

Many of you are familiar with search engine Google. Some may not know it has a very interesting translation engine. If through a Google search you locate a Web site that is in a non-English language, you can push a button and Google will translate it for you. Here are the results for a review of "Chore of Enchantment" from an Italian site. You can see that Google really understands the essence of Giant Sand! "GIANT SAND Chore of Enchantment (Thrill Jokey, 2000) Exited E' this spring this disc of largest the Giant Sand nevertheless it we have guilty ignored in order too much time. There were other discs, other innovationes that seemed to come before. They seemed exactly, why this year difficultly you will find a job of such depth. Therefore we find ourselves to listen to those polverose songs that the old Howe Gelb, from always the mind and the heart of the Giant Sand, has played with to John Convertino and Joe Burns, that is the Calexico. A trio helped from many other friends, between which Juliana Heatfiled and the glorious Jim Dickinson. Cos' has of special these songs? Perhaps the pain that they hide between the own folds, being these pieces dedicates to you to Rainer Ptacek, reliable friend of Howe Gelb nonchè member of the Giant Sand, scomparso three years ago. Danced that they move with a slow fascination, "Astonished (in Memphis)"," Punishing Sun "and" Shiver ", small essenzialità jewels, "Dirty from the Rain" and the melancholic "Raw", some sfuriata chitarristica neighbor to the Neil Young electrical worker, "Satellite", and some sghembo soul, "Temptation of Egg". And then that sour and only voice that literally tells own history, a po' like ago Lou Reed. To times enough one voice therefore and one manciata of splendid songs in order to make a great disc, true? " Get that? "Danced that they move with a slow fascination" is pure poetry!

Date: Wed Dec 12 14:05
no one (Re:):

You are correct. I care.

Date: Wed Dec 12 12:42
viletemptress (no one cares):

you're right, molten granite is not called molten granite. generally granite does not even melt. usually it metamorphizes (which takes high temp and pressure, but not melting) into gneiss then the gneiss can melt and become magma which can cool back into granite.

Date: Wed Dec 12 12:09
james s (oh, yes, and):

let me not forget At Play in the Fields of the Lord by Matthiessen. Really enjoyed that one recently. I still haven't sent off for my new sandman release. must do that this weekend. Do any of you that have heard it have any comments? Does the new record come out in January? Hey Howe, do you know if you will be playing at south by southwest in 2002? Trying to plan my vacation.

Date: Wed Dec 12 11:07
john (geology central):

actually, molten granite doesn't cool into page turners, I don't even think that molten granite is called granite (I think it's just magma), I guess I didn't learn much from McPhee, or a visit to the Elberton (Ga.) Granite Museum, but they do have a statue there that got lynched and buried because the soldiers to whom it was a tribute didn't like it too much. I remember that much . . .

Date: Wed Dec 12 11:04
james s (Oh, and Mitch,):

I wonder what Flannery would have thought about your slip of the tongue in your class concerning a Good Man Is Hard to Find. That's hilarious.

Date: Wed Dec 12 10:44
john (x@x.X):

Oh yeah, John McPhee - one of my favorites. Who else could turn 300 pages of non-fiction about plate tectonics and how molten granite cools into a page turner?

Date: Wed Dec 12 10:38
Mitch (kawabata dreaming):

Hey, James...well, I'll just put forward my two favorites...Snow Country & Thousand Cranes. There's also an interesting one from him called Palm-Of-The-Hand Stories, which are very very very short stories--guess you'd say almost short fiction as haiku, if that makes any sense.

Date: Wed Dec 12 10:28
james s (re: re:):

OConnor's essays are fun too, Mystery & Manners, I think the collection is called. Other books that I've enjoyed recently: Encounters With the Archdruid by John McPhee, Fool's Progress by Edward Abbey, Boredom by Moravia, Naomi by Tanizaki, and Rule of the Bone by Russel Banks. What Kawabata would you recommend, Mitch? I read Sleeping Beauties recently. Whenever I put the book down, I felt like I just awoke from some strange dream/nightmare with a slight fever.

Date: Wed Dec 12 09:45
Blaine (@work):

Indeed, Harry Crews is another good one --Feast of Snakes, The Gospel Singer(?). That early stuff seems more trad Southern Gothic (if I can get away with saying that -- I think you know the ballpark) and his later novels do have what John refers to... that "I shouldn't laugh at this" non-PC humor. Quite dark and funny, but also very real. He lost me a few years back after the bodybuilder one, I'll need to catch up. Has anyone mentioned Confederacy of Dunces yet? Hilarious & human. There is a bio on the (late) author out or due out soon. Also, to anyone who likes the O'Connor stories, the book of her correspondence is very good and entertaining -- not dry in the least. Sometimes it's a disappointment to confuse the artist and the art (Chuck Berry), but FO'C seems genuine all the way round. No doubt in a a paralell universe Giant Sand took her out on tour. Lastly, I finally saw a movie called Vanishing Point last night. Nice early '70s existential American-dream-gone-haywire story. One other last comment -- the Faulkner character in Barton Fink was a cool reference. (my turn to apologize for rambling.)

Date: Wed Dec 12 08:46
john (avoidingwritingworkrelatedmaterial):

I've always liked "The Violent Bear it Away" the best, although it's been a very long time since I've read it. Been slowly working my way though the collected stories. They're in chronlogical order, including some unpublished, and I'm having a hard time getting to the "good stuff," but I think it was "The Life You Save May be Your Own" was the last one I read and it really gave me a good jolt. I'd recommend Crews too if you've got a taste for offensive humor, maybe like "Fargo" you'll laugh but think that you shouldn't. Would you laugh at an amputaion? You might. But as always I am reminded of Killdozer's great "Lupus" (please imagine fuzzed out guitar and tuba here) - "Lupus took the life of Flannery O'Connor / She wrote may great things before death came upon 'er (bum bumpumbum bumpadum . . ."

Date: Wed Dec 12 08:11
james s (re:):

yes, I'm familar with Tom Franklin. I met him at a reading in Birmingham Alabama a year and a half ago, got him to sign my book. Nice guy. Under his name he also wrote, in large letters, "Jesus is coming soon". Ha. and yes, Mitch, I'm with you on Pancake. It's too bad he didn't stick around. I wish Franklin would come out with something new. It's been a while. I dig some of Larry Brown too, Joe, and Father and Son, and Big Bad Love.

Date: Wed Dec 12 07:19
tHom (not working):

tHanx Blaine, james s and Mitch for the opinions on O'Connor - your pooled enthusiasm has inspired me to try again. I'll take the general advice and begin with the stories ... and check out the Crews fellow too. A strand that may stretch the genre but I think still qualifies as an alloyed stratum in the Southern Gothic vein is Alan Moore's brilliant Swamp Thing series - the greatest work ever done in comics? Maybe. Probably. I've never read any of the Chinese or Japanese writers mentioned but I'm going to check out one or two as soon as I've read the early Pelecanos that's just come out in the UK (and worked my way through the rest of the pile on my armchair).

Date: Tue Dec 11 23:42
Mitch (wait a minute):

It really is Mike, right? Otherwise, ergh!

Date: Tue Dec 11 23:40
Mitch (les mots):

I don't know, Mike. Can't see any problem associating the two...well, depends on the perspective, I guess. :)

Date: Tue Dec 11 23:37
mike (20 x 20):

hmmmm..... in hindsite, maybe I shouldn't have mentioned photo and gunned down in the same sentence......

Date: Tue Dec 11 23:34
mike (sawaro):

Somehow I've always associated the photo on the rear of 'Storm' as being of Jack Ruby when he gunned down Oswald!!.... but that would'nt have been in colour.

Date: Tue Dec 11 23:32
Mitch (again):

Not to be confused with Ryu Murakami...he of Almost Transparent Blue and Sixty-Nine.

Date: Tue Dec 11 23:31
Mitch (the wind-up bird & tuesday's women):

Oh yes yes, GREAT book, howe! The Elephant Vanishes too is a good one from Murakami.

Date: Tue Dec 11 18:57
howe (home):

got 2 words for you mitch (& other readers alike): THE WIND-UP BIRD CHRONICLE by haruki murakami

Date: Tue Dec 11 16:35
Mitch (everything that rises):

Personally, I've always loved Wise Blood (never seen the movie though, any good?), but I think O'Connor's real strength is in the stories. I suppose, in a way, the work might seem dated, and I've sometimes wondered if being from the south or southwest might make them resonate somewhat stronger for a reader from those regions. I think in a grand sense the modern analog for O'Connor might be someone like Ha Jin, whose writing comes from a very specific and unique place that few of us will ever experience (his place in China, I mean, not our own unique places). So if I may, I'd like to recommend a book that came out a year or two ago called Poachers--I'd have to race to the book shelf to double-check--but I believe the author is named Tom Franklin--good stuff, and a nice indicator of where modern "southern" fiction finds itself (have you read this one James?). Also, I know James S will echo my enthusiasm for the very late Breece D.J. Pancake's slim slim volume of slightly Carver-like stories--been a while since I've re-visited it, but I remember feeling at the time that he might've, possibly, been the modern incarnation of O'Connor--had he not shot himself at such a young age. Musically too, we have our O'Connors--Springsteen's Nebraska comes straight to mind, as does dabs from Dylan's massive body of work. And there's just something rural and tingly in that southern gothic vain to be found in Howe's "Was Is A Big Word", and, for me, the Cormac M. vibe gets summoned again and again in "Horses Coming Again" (probably different for everyone else). Film-wise, Malik's Badlands comes closest to me. Most shameful mistake of my haphazard college life. Professor asked if any of us liked O'Connor. I raised my hand. He asked which story. I said, "A Hard Man Is Good To Find." Took me a few seconds to figure out why everyone was laughing. Oh well.

Date: Tue Dec 11 16:13
paulk (p.kerr@ntlworld.com):

Re:Wiseblood, isn't there a shot of Brad Dourif from that movie on the back cover of storm? Blaine, i've heard about Michael Hurley playing with John and Joey,if anyone has a recording of it please,please let me know. Paul

Date: Tue Dec 11 14:59
Sean (sean.tracey@btinternet.com):

Just got the Rainer Live album , if you don't have this you really ought to go out and buy a copy now .

Date: Tue Dec 11 13:06
james s (RE:):

tHom, I'm a fan of Wiseblood (the book and the movie, though the music in the movie drives me nuts), so perhaps this advice will carry no weight, but anyway, my advice is to read the short stories if you haven't already before you dismiss O'Connor and go slowly with them, savoring the dialect, the humor, all of the symbols (got to pay attention to the names of the characters for instance) that she loves to play with that you don't need an advanced degree to recognize. and Cormac. I've seen the cormac / tuscon music scene connection on the backs of Calexico and early Friends of Dean Martinez records and thought perhaps one (or some) of you over that way was in touch with the man and was "in the know". It was worth a shot. I eagerly await the new book.. And, YES!, Suttree! That would be my desert island book, Blaine. As to Bunuel, I started with the Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie. That's all I've seen thus far. It is funny and surreal, though not as surreal, perhaps, as the flicks he was making when he was younger and running about with Dali and Lorca and such. The DVD of Discreet comes with a long informative docu about him that shows many clips of other films. I'm glad, tHom, that our Cormac thoughts met up. O'Connor isn't for everyone; I tryed to turn some of my friends onto her but many of their reactions were, I think, similar to yours. Have you ever tried Crews? Harry Crews? Pretty rough stuff, in the southern gothic vein, and some of it is just plain bad. Feast of Snakes is good, but not for the easily, or not so easily, offended. Damn, it's tempting to fly to Tuscon for the almost-new year's weekend. I hate money, or at least my utter lack of it! Sorry to have blabbed so long. Good day, all.

Date: Tue Dec 11 12:29
found (home):

just listened to purge and slouch for the first time and would advise everyone to get it

Date: Tue Dec 11 10:19
Blaine (@work):

tHom -- good point, I have some very close, music-loving friends who just don't get Giant Sand. C'est la Vie -- it's still a big world and room for everyone. Have you read Everything That Rises Must Converge? May be better than Wiseblood. treygoba -- Steve Wynn's career paralells Howe's in some regards and he's worth diggin into ( a nice guy to boot). My picks are anything he did with the Dream Syndicate; the Danny & Dusty record he did with Dan Stuart (any one know what he's up to?) and friends is in the Rolling Thunder vibe; the Gutterball albs are flat out great. Wynn's solo stuff is harder to gauge -- I'd lean toward Flourecsent and the new one as best picks. On a similar tangent, track down Russ Tollman -- another great writer.

Date: Tue Dec 11 09:49
tHom (where the wise blood won't flow):

Blaine, your mention of O'Connor has resuscitated a personal enigma that I thought I'd put to rest some time ago. Have you ever addressed yourself to the work of an artist who comes highly recommended by those you trust, anticipating great things, only to find the magic just isn't there for you? Such has been my experience where O'Connor is concerned. I understand she's supposed to have a dark current of humour in the mix somewhere, but I just don't get it I suppose. Likewise with Houston's film version of Wise Blood; I find it unwatchable. But for some reason I always think of Trickle Down System as being a kind of soundtrack to that movie, something to do with the line about take off your uniform brings to mind Brad Dourif returning home at the start of the film. Don't ask me why ...

Date: Tue Dec 11 09:22
bird (avalon):

I had the chance to see Steve Wynn at the Metropolitian Museum of Art but I didn't have the dough, I stood outside the theatre doors and caught little snipets as the ladies in their fur coats went in and out...the art work of coarse, kept me company and afterwards I mediatated in the Temple of Dendur......I paid a nickle to get in. Hey, you Tucsonians and anyone else who ever played there, what happened to Hotel Congress.....a.k.a. "Hotel California" by the Eagles?

Date: Tue Dec 11 08:55
treygoba ((starving in oz)):

I just purchased the Steve Wynn album "Here Come the Miracles". Holy crap. Albums that leave me speechless/catatonic from start to finish are hard to come by these days. I've never listened to Wynn and his various incarnations before. Help me folks. What other Wynn/Dream Syndicate albums do I pursue? Are the other albums as jaw-dropping as this? (or maybe I'm just starving for honest music here in the wasteland of Oz)

Date: Tue Dec 11 07:59
Blaine (@work):

...digging into the Cormac McCarthy angle, Suttree is a great book (esp if you have a weakness for Faulkner or O'Connor). PaulK -- speaking of the Holy Modal Rounders, there was GS SXSW gig in Austin some years back where Joey & John backed the great Michael Hurley -- very cool. They were the perfect low-key rhythm section. Maybe someday we can see them play w/Mose Allison. And I seem to recall someone recording the evening's proceedings(Was the flyer for this gig later the cover of the first? bootleg series disc?) -- less than perfect memory here, but I think the lineup was Giant Sand, Mr. Hurley, Medeski, Martin & Wood, Vic Chestnutt, Syd Straw, Peter Holsapple & Susan Cowsill and Chris Whitley -- sometimes in various combinations? Quite a nice evening in a theatre with a slanted floor. Poot -- good point, Howe & the late Mr. Sahm def share a breadth/diversity/love of all musics. It helps they both jump around on instruments, maybe they both share a need to be challenged and a desire not to be bored. James -- can you suggest the best Bunuel movies to start with??

Date: Tue Dec 11 05:33
tHom (up at the high H):

james s, I have no inside news about Cormac McCarthy. So why am I commenting? Only because I was following a train of thought attached to All The Pretty Horses as I came to this site and read your question. Serendipity of a sort, I think. Anyway, we can be sure he is working hard and I look forward to the publication of whatever it is he's working on. howe, what's your argument with the capital H? Is it just the h or the upper case in general? Is it based on aesthetic grounds or some other significance?

Date: Mon Dec 10 23:27
goodfever (goodfever.com):

Hey thanks to rob and howe for the warm welcome, yes this will the first for both of us. it is certainly always seemed like the most important work/pleasure possible, for us two leggers, and at 36yrs aged, i am just as excited and brave (as well as the quantum list of other feelings raging thru me) as i have ever been. good advice though. many congragulations on the arrival of your little ambassitor from the source, a cyber kiss to the crown. howe i understand that you are again awaiting a new'un. this miracle of birth will never be as vivid to me as it is now. i have been a bit to busy making bannana milk, keeping the bath drawn, and schleping poted plants and quan yin statues into the birthing room (we are so lucky), to follow the movie thread very closely, but i rewatched the french canadian animated film from the 70's "fantastic planet" last night, and thought today just how simple all the lessons are, but how difficult and painful it is for us to learn them. well again thanks for the welcomes, and for all the insperation and comradery i have been granted from the words of you, howe, and the sounds of the fine musicians of giant sand. till then...Kirkland (goodfever)

Date: Mon Dec 10 17:27
tom@belgium (hoopla):

Nice to read you again mr Gelb. I happen to live in the neighbourhood and work in Brussels. Maybe, seewhathappenswhenandifithappens, i will meet di (from athenia ) (?). And Mitch, it feels good to read your cinematic wondering again.Love to you all.

Date: Mon Dec 10 17:09
Mitch (nicoretted after 512 miles):

Hi everyone! So cool to be back in the casa again with my 'hind set in front of the computer. As long as the movie thread is somewhat alive, I just returned from the Santa Fe Film Festival--and nearly disappeared for a week inside darkened theaters. Saw some fine flicks, so track 'em down if you can..."Possible Loves" (Brazil) and the latest from the director of Diva called "Mortal Transfers" (soooooooooo dark and funny!). Two utterly incredible films came from Asia: "What Time Is It There?" (Taiwan), which had a cameo from Jean Pierre Leaud in it, and from mainland China "Devils On The Doorstop," which was just an amazing piece of work (all copies were recently seized in China and the film has been banned there). There was also a Canadian film shot on digital video about the Innuit indians--that just goes to show that incredible and epic films can be made with tiny tiny budgets. Anyway, good to be back in Sandland, and so good too to see Howe's name in the lower case here too!!! Mitch

Date: Mon Dec 10 16:31
Maharaj (unhsiV):

Hey Howe, When're you gonna play in Australia?

Date: Mon Dec 10 16:11
Isis (psu23686@pdx.edu):

End support for war in Afghanistan: our bombs are killing innocent women and children. It's not right!!! General Electric (arms manufacturer/owner and controller of N.B.C.) uses N.B.C. news to sell weapons with their pro-war news coverage. www.antiwar.com xoxoxox-

Date: Mon Dec 10 15:45
howe (home):

hi folks. been a while. been working a lot. no that wasnt me who posted the pacyderm comment, i would never use a capital "h" in my name. i hope you all will manage to ridiculously enjoy the christmas crunch regardless of juxtipositionings encountered. this has been a very interesting smattering in the last coupla months. all in all sweet to see a forum so alive. we are going to change the photo in quesion based on the notion that some of you all were requesting to distance the connecion with ms. bean, and we are still wishing the best for robyn and even a happy holiday or two. my apologies to poor ol patti who was dragged into the fray, but she knows it, and thanks for those of you who cyber hugged her as well. meanwhile, hello to the oracle newcomer, and be very nice to di. she is a young, very intelligent and talented woman from athenia who can quote giant sand lyrics from the mid 80s ....very mysterious. just be careful di. it won't do the world any good if your not in it. ok then....em, let the cat out. take care and be warm all.-howe....and happy birthday senor burns !!!

Date: Mon Dec 10 15:29
mike (sawarowom):

Hey BD (and others)... postal orders are now being taken again at the Ow Om Store.

Date: Mon Dec 10 12:34
james s (where are the usual suspects? Everybody bailing?):

any of you westernlitheads keep up with the goingson of Cormac McCarthy? Any rumors of new work surfacing sooNNN? Hey, that new GS record is getting closer and closer!

Date: Mon Dec 10 12:08
concerned (nerves being struck here?):

be careful out there, di. It's a wierd political climate at present with most any serious protest likely to be labled "terrorism". I hope the demonstrators remain nonviolent and that some of the better causes embedded in this movement are helped and not hurt by what goes down.

Date: Mon Dec 10 11:42
Rob Stanier UK (Robtstanier@aol.com):

Welcome goodfever. Good to have you on board. Is it your first child that your expecting? My boy has just gone 4 weeks old. Nothing will match the experience. Be brave for the lady. All the Best. Rob.

Date: Mon Dec 10 11:41
nice (spam):

hey di - try another board for your spam... do you even know who giant sand is?

Date: Mon Dec 10 10:47
World Leader Pretend ()()()()()()()()()():

I hope you find your new world Di. Let's hope it's not the one I'm living in.

Date: Mon Dec 10 09:13
bird (avalon):

Happy Birthday Joey and thanks for that Richard Buckner tape you gave me........I wonder what he means by "kill or be cured." I wish I could go with Di. Good luck everyone.

Date: Mon Dec 10 08:46
di (some more information):

the main organizations against globalisation are the : Globalise Resistance, ATTA (with 26 countries participating ), Corporate Watch (from USA), Jubille Plus, Destroy IMF, Cuba Connect and the ecological Friends of the Earth . links : www.d14.be www.genoa-g8.org www.protest.net www.genoa2001.org www.gbg2001.org inpeg.ecn.cz

Date: Mon Dec 10 08:38
di ("ANOTHER WORLD IS NECESSARY" - Genoa goes to Brussels ):

2 years ago, the 50.000 demonstrators that gathered in Seattle forced the International Trade Organization to cancel it's meeting . the movement against globalisation continued and grew . the 10.000 demonstrators that gathered in Prague in sept.2000 forced the World Bank to end it's meeting one day earlier . in Gothenburg last june, the swedish police opened fire against the people causing serious injuring . violent clashes happened and few weeks later in Barcelona where the World Bank canceled it's meeting and realized it through internet . last summer in Genoa more than 250.000 demonstrators gathered to raise a voice against the G8 . we all saw the real face of globalisation with the " 8 more CIVILISED countries of the world " sending their army to KILL their own children*********in few days (13-14-15 of decemb.) the 15 of the E.U. are meeting in Brussels - euro-cops, euro-army, the war, a military globalisation, a military democracy, the limitation of our freedom - are their issues . more than 3500 cops are already guarding the area determined to keep the demonstrators away - such FASCISM will not pass . 100.000 people from a l l over the world, we'll meet there to march with the slogan "another world is necessary" we want a different world and WE WILL SUCCED!! ********** hey! is any of you guys going ????????? it'll be cool to meet there...ok.hope we'll all be alright and return safe and sound - see you guys !

Date: Mon Dec 10 08:17
james s (re: [ ]):

I'll add Bunuel to my list, Mike. Just watched Discreet Charm over the weekend. It was the first of his that I'd seen. Loved it. As a movie, it's like a giant sand record. ha. Also, the dvd comes with a wonderful long documentary of Bunuel, interviews with his friends and such. Great. J

Date: Sun Dec 9 23:04
goodfever (addicted to spell check):

sorry no spell check available

Date: Sun Dec 9 23:01
goodfever (goodfever.com):

well team hello at long last! it is time, now that i can finaly smell all the tiny tucson(and beyond) fingertips typing away to arrange this most amalgomous myriad of musings, to pipe in and suppose a bit of space in this forum devout. my partner and i have relocated to Oracle Az. for the birth of our child (jan. 15?), and being a cheerleader of the giandsand clan since the early 80's, i wanna be a part (of the 30 peices of music that i brought for the birth, 6 cd's were GS). most importantly, i wish & want each and everyone involved, the prosper needed to evolve further into these most confusing and trying times. each of us blabbering and smoking in our own way, with all these dreams and drears boiling around in the bucket. a thousand infinant blessings, each and all! on a more babylonian note, i have left my home in N.Cal, by wish of the lovly mamma 2 be, with a monthly morgauge payment et al. i am well trained in many feilds, From sound enginering, to masonry/carpentry, and most everything in between (anyone need a dog groomer?), Does anyone in the area need extra hands? Ok introduction complete, other than saying that i have been quite bemused by reading these entries over the last year, and am glad to finally get my nose in here, and say HI!

Date: Sun Dec 9 22:25
Tommy Gailer (scrollboy):

Happy Birthday Joey Burns! And have fun in Japan...

Date: Sun Dec 9 22:03
poot (oh, and it's 1am, monday the 10th here sooo...):

...Happy Hanukkah for those who choose it to be. -pt

Date: Sun Dec 9 21:50
poot (...inch of snow, and a couple words...):

I've been doing a "compare/contrast" of Howe & Doug Sahm for the past couple days. I tried to fit Elvis into the picture as well, but it wasn't a perfect fit. Trace amounts of phantom drums on B.Marble.G are incredible. Giant Sand has truly changed the way I listen. Thanks for the sounds, Howe. -Not Sleeping Poot

Date: Sun Dec 9 15:38
PaulK (p.kerr@ntlworld.com):

Sandman 5 winged it's way in yesterday. Thanks again to Chris, Jim, Mike and of course Howe and the boys (and girl). Re favourite films, many have already been mentioned. Can I add a nod in the direction of the Marx Brothers and a special nod to Missing by Costa Gravas, a trwmendous film that everone should be made to watch. Musically I'm overdosing on the Holy Modal Rounders having seen Peter stampfel last week, inspired lunacy. Paul

Date: Sun Dec 9 09:49
di (no lauren, you're not the only one...):

...yes oh yes let's give peace a chance

Date: Sat Dec 8 10:06
lauren (where were you):

fondly remembering John Lennon today... you might say I'm a dreamer, i hope i'm not the only one....let's give peace a chance... come on with it...

Date: Sat Dec 8 10:05
lauren (where were you):

fondly remembering John Lennon today... you might say I'm a dreamer, i hope i'm not the only one....let's give peace a chance... come on with it...

Date: Sat Dec 8 09:47
bird (avalon):

Hey John............................do you think Neil Young minds that you wrote his lyrics here? I've really been wondering about quoting other people on a sight like this one.............they might not like it. Thats why I try to stick to my own although I would love to quote Leslie Marmon Silko (Almunac of the Dead), Robert Bly (Poem for the Revival of the Democratic Party) and Thomas McGrath (You Out There, So Secret, What Makes You Think You're Alone.) I don't dare but...boy....do they speak my language! I wish everyone could read them!

Date: Sat Dec 8 09:43
Tommy Gailer (scrollin`in the dark):

Yes, Coloin, B. Paxton was in "Near Dark"...so he was in "A simple plan" and "One false move", two of my all time fave`s, too.

Date: Sat Dec 8 01:33
archivist (archive@giantsand.com):

hey mike... can we get a comments board with a spell check?? I need one!

Date: Fri Dec 7 21:45
Colin (Near Dark):

Wasn't Bill Paxton in Near Dark?

Date: Fri Dec 7 21:43
Colin (em):

Uh...bubbles? That would have made it a bit more interesting. Unfortunately they were just the opener, so no bubbles and the sound setup wasn't all that great. I couldn't hear the lyrics that well, but the singer was a real kick. Quite a crowd pleaser...you know he was born to be a rock star.

Date: Fri Dec 7 18:42
em* (Chillin' like Bob Dylan):

Colin-was Mercury Rev equipped with bubbles? I hear they often are..well have a great weekend, everyone. have some fun.

Date: Fri Dec 7 17:57
Tommy Gailer (hot scroller):

Although "Deliverance" and "Don`t look now" have not the "vampire bite", they are great films, no doubt..."Repulsion" doesn`t say anything to me. Yesterday i saw a TUI-Commercial with Goldfrapp`s "Utopia"...made me baffle somehow.

Date: Fri Dec 7 15:13
Colin (shows):

Mercury Rev is quite an interesting band...they opened for Wilco. I got a ticket to the Elliott Smith show in San Fran and I'm pumped!!!

Date: Fri Dec 7 14:35
recent Tucson visitor ((&(/&/&/&)):

RE archivist: almost new year's show, 12/29 - and that is Tom WalbaNK!!!

Date: Fri Dec 7 14:28
j ([:-}/////¬):

Near Dark, Yes but also Deliverance, Don't look now, Repulsion. I must hear sanded 'streets of laredo' I grew up with these things.

Date: Fri Dec 7 13:56
archivist (...):

thats Naim Amor....

Date: Fri Dec 7 13:55
Archivist (archive@giantsand.com):

Just an FYI: Almost New Years shows - Solar Culture, Tucson, AZ - Friday 12/28 - Calexico w/ Howe Gelb, Mariachi Luz De Luna, Nick Luca Trio, and DJ Maneulito. Saturday - 12/29 - Giant Sand w/ Special Guests, Libre de Grasa, and Nail Amor & Tom Walbag. $10 each night. KXCI will broadcast the 1st night live and record the second night for future broadcast...

Date: Fri Dec 7 13:07
emm (hmm):

, Geoff-didn't realize that--now I've gotta get that album! I sure like "the dude" cos it's not a disrespectful cat name-it is very respectful infact :) :) Hey! I just got tickets to the mercury rev concert and i am jumping for joy!!now where is that Hoopla Howe??? oh my.

Date: Fri Dec 7 11:34
sammy (lapin):

I listened to some mp3 of the show Evan D. did on the Country festival in London,with Howe , Joey and John (and a woman,but Who?) and it sounds great.If you want to get it, go on www.Lemonevan.com.The songs are really deep,the musicians really good, I think Evan did one of the best live performance I know & I wish that "Is the grass all wine coloured" will sound more like this.bye,Sammy.

Date: Fri Dec 7 11:31
Blaine ( -- the vernacular is spectacular):

Just came across a very nice bit of accidental magi, thanks to our wonderful technology. Try searching Giant Sand using Google and open the link to Atiza. Click to translate the article to English and there you have it. Howe's turn of phrase never sounded better and thanks to Ignacio Julia (and/or the transaltor) for some koan-like insights. This made my day. Be cool to have it added to the website.

Date: Fri Dec 7 09:11
geoff (re:dude the cat ):

Dude does sound like a good cat name. If I remember correctly (and maybe someone else has already mentioned it), Dude the Cat is one of the songs on the Leaving Trains album that feature the hood of Howe's car. Hmmm Emmm...

Date: Fri Dec 7 09:11
james s (mike, gracias, danke, or rather,):

merci!

Date: Fri Dec 7 08:49
Sean (sean.tracey@btinternet.com):

Howe , how about Beyond Nashville being a yearly event " Howe Gelb presents or Howe Gelb's Hootenany " The show was such a success and my event of the year.

Date: Fri Dec 7 08:23
bean (thanks john):

Those are lovely lyrics, they've inspired me a great deal. Although I must disagree with whoever thinks there aren't any evil people in Arizona....how come there are so many murders? Check out Jeff Smith sometime.....

Date: Fri Dec 7 08:22
mike ([___] ):

james... go to http://www.hollywood.com/movies/detail/movie/238281 - for details, then google on alain cavalier and therese... should get quite a few vids for sale. No one's mentioned louis bunuel in their lists. i've always enjoyed 'the exterminating angel'.

Date: Fri Dec 7 07:05
james s (of course I'm french! Why do you think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king?):

French persons, or connoisseurs of french cinema, do you know a film called "Therese"? It's about Therese of Lisieux, black and white, very artfully done, sypathetic but detached and unsentimental. Can't find it anywhere by title (I saw it once and have been looking since). Anybody have any useful info for me about it, or where to get a copy? Gillian Welch and bunches of good bluegrass tomorrow night in honor of the late great Bill Monroe! Woo Hoo! Have a good day, all.

Date: Fri Dec 7 06:14
Bjorn Hammershaug (bhammershaug@mac.com):

Eyes: Harmony Korines Gummo and julien donkey-boy. (as recent years). Amalie of Montmartre. Apocalypse Now (redux). Ears: Miles (Silent Way Complete). Japancakes (Sleepy Strange). NU-Norwegian jazz/noise. Giant Sand/Gelb (always). Appendix Out. Silver Jews. Everything with a steel-guitar, free spirit, a trumpet and/or dub-rhythms, really. Eyes+Ears: Bright Eyes, live in Oslo. Supersilent. June of 44 (last year I think). Karate. all we forgot. next year will be good.

Date: Fri Dec 7 06:02
Guni (:–)):

Lucky Gustav! Have fun!

Date: Fri Dec 7 05:38
Gustav Tinghög (the woods):

not that i want to rub it in or anything .....but i saw 22- pistepirkko last night......they played in my basement (kind of) .....I'm seeing them tomorrow again ...Everyone should get themself a copy of their new album Rally of love

Date: Thu Dec 6 21:57
Tommy Gailer ((scroll-man)):

Guni, ever seen "Near Dark"? That`s my fave vampire-flick...kinda road-movie.My biggest dissapointment this year, was missing "22-Pistepirkko" live...would have loved to see the "crazy" Finns.

Date: Thu Dec 6 20:09
vile temptress (!!!!!!!!!!!):

sorry, they forced me to refresh, i try, i really do!

Date: Thu Dec 6 20:08
vile temptress (helliott9@hotmail.com):

it's okay if you don't know it, i've just been having a hard time

Date: Thu Dec 6 20:05
vile temptress (helliott9@hotmail.com):

it's okay if you don't know it, i've just been having a hard time

Date: Thu Dec 6 19:30
tom (not the shoes, not the shoes...):

sorry, was thinking of 'Down by Law'

Date: Thu Dec 6 14:04
john (rolling):

I beleive it's "Let's Roll" as in "let's take action now."It refers to Todd Beamer's parting words on his call from flight 93. Let's Roll by Neil Young I know I said I love you, I know you know it's true, I got to put the phone down, And do what we gotta do. One's standing in the aisle way, Two more at the door, We got to get inside there, Before they kill some more. Time is runnin' out, let's roll. Time is runnin' out, let's roll. No time for indecision, We got to make a move, I hope that we're forgiven, For what we gotta do. How this all got started, I'll never understand, I hope someone can fly this thing, Get us back to land. Time is runnin' out, let's roll. Time is runnin' out, let's roll. No one has the answers, But one thing is true, You got to turn on evil, When it's comin' after you. You got to face it down, And when it tries to hide, You got to go in after it, And never be denied. Time is runnin' out, let's roll. Let's roll for freedom, Let's roll for love, Goin' after Satan, On the wings of a dove. Let's roll for justice, Let's roll for truth, Let's not let our children, Grow up fearful in their youth. Time is runnin' out, let's roll. Time is runnin' out, let's roll. Time is runnin' out, let's roll.

Date: Thu Dec 6 13:18
BD ((Should be Cannonball Adderley)):

Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Anything by Edward Abbey, Charles Bowden, Jim Harrison.

Date: Thu Dec 6 13:14
BD (%:}):

Grant Green, Wes Montgomery, Canonball, Clifford Brown, FELA. Yeah gluesniffer and the robyn chic are weird but they are part of syphilisation and we must put up with them and thats it. Keep the board up not matter what, but ditch the picture Howe. Mike Brewer has put so much effort into this site no sense in letting it slip away now. Also you seem like a nice person Patti, You must be a good witch and I know from experiance there are no evil persons in Arizona.

Date: Thu Dec 6 11:52
bean (cnn):

Neil Young's latest recording is called "let em roll" as in heads.

Date: Thu Dec 6 11:22
js (sorry temptress):

I don't recognize the lyric.

Date: Thu Dec 6 11:04
vile temptress (helliott9@hotmail.com):

i don't suppose anyone could answer my question. or at least try. i can't find the answer anywhere. thanks (it was posted on dec 5 20:00 or so)

Date: Thu Dec 6 10:43
Guni ((****)):

I don't know if it's ok to choose now, there are still some evenings left this year. But as I won't be in Tucson for the Almost-New-Year-Events I would say my concert of the year 2001 was: **** 22-Pistepirkko – Rally of Love-Tour ****. But I also loved all the Calexico shows I saw/heard (Hi Tommy, Carsten, John&Joey, Martin&Volker, Jacob&Jelle) and of course R.Hopkins & The Luminarios, just recently. Mitch, what about Nosferatu, the original bw?

Date: Thu Dec 6 09:50
k (conzertsofdayear):

quasi/blackheartprocession/broadcast/isotope217/mouseonmars/howe/ guidedbyvoices/sandandfriendsintucson/thestandard

Date: Thu Dec 6 09:03
glue sniffer (apoligies):

sorry if i have offened any one or upsert the delicate balce of this board. fun fun fun in the sun sun sun. its hungry hungry hippos. i love you all were all in the same boat and it is getting smaller theirs vitriol on this page that makes me bleed inside, just try a little happiness. p.s welcome to our world.

Date: Thu Dec 6 08:59
glue sniffer (((((and also i would like to thank....))))):

i would take the film Pie or pye you know and jazz records theloinus monks genius of modern music and napalm deaths greatist hits and pariond by black sabath. howard the duck

Date: Thu Dec 6 07:46
so odd it's interesting... (????):

Just reading over the discussion board...there's always good music references and I like my fellow Howe friends and fans....but honestly, what is UP with the Bird Bean Robyn?! I keep picturing her hunched over a computer keyboard in some dark room with a swinging Psycho lamp over her head, madly typing away on the Giant Sand discussion board. Sybil, go somewhere else for attention.

Date: Thu Dec 6 07:44
james s (i'm a vampire i'm a vampire):

Good points, Mitch. I'm not bailing. Lucky you, getting away from your computer for a day. I wish I could. I'm stuck in front of one at work for eight hours a day. How can I resist seeing what's going on here? I can't. So it goes. Even when I worked as a parking lot attendent, I was in front of a screen all day. arrrhh. Oh, and Howe, I listened to better music than the jaguar drivers around here.

Date: Thu Dec 6 07:36
Blaine (@work):

Sniffer -- on behalf of the rest of the readers and writers to this mssg board, I hereby declare you the official Giant Sand "soical calender". We all wish we could have been right there with you throwing up and being rude to people. You describce yrself as a true ass. You get points for being honest. Re: the other problem child who has cyber-stalked Howe/Patti (and us) you got yr dose of attention. How about setting up yr own website and mssg board? I have sympathy and compassion to an extent, but anyone who choses to go off the wagon on thier meds really isn't trying to work things out, now are they? Maybe losing the photo will exorcise the problem. The Silos have been selling a white label cd at thier gigs called "the one with the bird on it". Maybe the GS braintrust would consider a similar remedy. I think we are all gonna end up the answer to a real obscure trivia question here. Moving on -- Best new albs: Dylan and Lucinda. Gigs: Blue Rodeo, Wilco and hopefully Lucinda tomorrow night. Does anyone know if Neil Young has a new alb in the works??

Date: Thu Dec 6 06:51
the real glue sniffer (not that there could be another):

so all this people wepole dancing and singing on fresh dug ground should i use a neon sign? redrum, on a lighter note as i feel i am the giant sand soical calender i went to a gig last night in oxford uk home of the brave and saw a rage against the machine band playing quite nice if not a little loud. then got invited to party my friend hid my heavy guitar in a bush and off we went. got to the party full of writers acotors some american guy who said he editied the dialog for dawsons creek i was rude and drunk people i was with didnt fit in got in a huge row about music students being rubish then guy with me is sick all over the hosts room i start writing all over the walls we get thrown out they attack drunk sick on floor man and we leg it. is there a song in their? you could make it up

Date: Thu Dec 6 06:44
Mitch (onward):

Patti, so glad the GH arrived safely. And, Guni, that vampire flick for the island. Hmmmmmmmm...Vampire's Kiss was kinda funny and with a nice psychological edge, if I remember right. But I'd have to reach back for the Hammer Horror flicks I loved as a kid--Horror Of Dracula, with Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing.

Date: Thu Dec 6 06:40
Mitch (up in Santa Fe):

Hello everyone. I've been away from home and computer for the last few days, and so have missed some of the drama and excitement on the comments board. I still think the best thing to do is simply not respond in any fashion to you-know-who (of course, in a roundabout way I'm doing that now). When I read her "Patty" post I knew it was her, and I'm sure everyone else here did too. Really, I hate to see people bailing out of here because of Osama Bin Avalon. I find almost all of her comments--no matter what name she is using, or whether she's apologizing or attacking--to be very transparent. It is disturbing at times, I know, but to let her ultimately disrupt our ebb & flow here is to give her way much more credit than she deserves. Concerning her Glum photo, I'd say just get rid of it completely--for no other reason than to blot her and her name and her creation from being seen by lots of people. Some things are better off being tossed into the artistic trashcan, some people too.

Date: Thu Dec 6 05:23
sarah (sarah@sa-wa-ro.com):

as the wife of Mike (sandman) Brewer I would like to give a great big thankyou to him for introducing me to the wonderful "World of Sand", my life is truly richer

Date: Thu Dec 6 05:22
sarah (sarah@sa-wa-ro.com):

as the wife of Mike (sandman) Brewer I would like to give a great big thankyou to him for introducing me to the wonderful "World of Sand", my life is truly richer

Date: Thu Dec 6 03:29
jpr (you are not alo-o-ne):

concert moments of the year (in no particular order): the waterboys: 'we will not be lovers' and mike scott's somewhat kitschy but effective orgasm-simulating 10 minutes+ guitar-solo in 'the pan within'. melvins: start-stun-stare-cope-end. slowly close the mouth. white noise and a grinning constantly for days. steve wynn + the miracle 3: small club gig ('knust', for those who care)! what a great, direct, sound! almost had forgotten about this feeling. 5 people on a 12 qm stage. chris cacavas! neil young: cortez the killer. made me forget a stupid talkative (does one say so?)audience. the handsome family: weightless gospel-elvis. (the 'knust' again, btw.) is that all there is? that's what I remember.

Date: Thu Dec 6 03:03
Colin (Forgot to mention, forgot to mention spoonman):

Oh, and I forgot to mention an astonishing performance by The Spoonman who projected out into the theater without the use of a microphone and quoted Shakespeare. Say, I feel like I'm talking to an empty arena here. Where'd you all go. ECHO...echo.......echo...........echo

Date: Thu Dec 6 01:05
Tidbit of the Day (From www.tomato.org):

To maintain their full flavor, do not refrigerate tomatoes! When tomatoes are subjected to cold temperatures, they lose their great flavor and can turn mushy. Store tomatoes outside the refrigerator, as you do with bananas.

Date: Thu Dec 6 01:01
Colin (This Year):

Well, I've been very happy with the company I've kept these past months. With them my ears have been exposed to the likes of Guided By Voices, Wilco, The Posies, Yo La Tengo, Wilco, Stephen Malkamus, Robyn Hitchcock, The Strokes, Rufus Wayneright, Red House Painters, X covers, that have truly been the awakening and departure I needed from my sad repetitious ungrowing collection of music previous. I can say that it is all due to a great friend of mine that I will truly miss with my move to California coming closer with every day. I have seen some great shows: U2, Dave Matthews, Neil, Pearl Jam, Tracy Chapman, REM, Emmylou, Daniel Lanios, GBV, Red House Painters, Wilco. It's been a good year with many more to come....

Date: Wed Dec 5 20:49
vile temptress (helliott9@hotmail.com):

sorry about that

Date: Wed Dec 5 20:47
vile temptress (helliott9@hotmail.com):

does anyone know who sang this song? it starts out: "it's all right, i've seen this before, this new light found me lost by the shore..." then later it repeats the words "radio noise" for a sort of chorus/bridge. i was trying to download the nitty gritty dirt band song "an american dream" and i got this. thanks

Date: Wed Dec 5 20:46
vile temptress (helliott9@hotmail.com):

does anyone know who sang this song? it starts out: "it's all right, i've seen this before, this new light found me lost by the shore..." then later it repeats the words "radio noise" for a sort of chorus/bridge. i was trying to download the nitty gritty dirt band song "an american dream" and i got this. thanks

Date: Wed Dec 5 15:42
Sean (sean.tracey@btinternet.com):

It's that time of year , so how about some top songs/albums/bands/event of the year type stuff ?

Date: Wed Dec 5 14:26
john (http://www.bigstepdown.com/letsroll/):

here's a link I got off the Vic Williams list to an mp3 for Neil Young's new song "Let's Roll" inspired by remarks on a cell phone call from flight 93. You may have heard it, but it's new to me - http://www.bigstepdown.com/letsroll/ peace y'all.

Date: Wed Dec 5 13:49
Colin (WOW):

Hey Patti, I had no idea you were the head of the "Tucson Witches" How's that treating you? By the way, what the hell's going on here...did I miss something? What is this "picture" that seems to have destroyed the foundation of this comments page? Oh, and the Dude is a great cat name. Hoping to get a ticket to see Elliott Smith in San Fran on the 17th. One last final and I'm done. Thugs: Where's the money Lebowski? The Dude: It's uh... it's down there somewhere let me take another look.

Date: Wed Dec 5 13:20
tom (@belgium.com):

i also think it's quite ironic that in these circumstances there are 3 Toms (actually one tom, one thom and myself) posting messages, under their real names.

Date: Wed Dec 5 13:16
tom (....):

I agree with pjb. Let's not get this thing get involved with our communication people.

Date: Wed Dec 5 13:01
pjb (enough):

Hey, maybe ignore is a good idea - Avalon is so hungry, needs to be fed, don't feed her. I told a friend recently - you can't talk to a psycho like a normal human being... Perhaps a nice desert island would be good therapy for Avalon - with a kitty named velcro for company and axis bold as love and maybe valley of rain played real loud...

Date: Wed Dec 5 12:46
em (me):

**wow this is sad--is there any place safe? Where's Chris G when you need him?**

Date: Wed Dec 5 11:27
Patti (a final note):

Its obvious that Robyn thinks it was me posting in her name.....will the real imposter please step forward (use a fake name if you have to) and be the recipiant of this persons vile insults. Im innocent. I have spoken to her once in my life. She is fixated on me and this is not pleasant as you can imagine. I wont write another word in here so you'll all know that its not me if she uses my misspelled name again. In the meantime.....rock on. Poot, I hope you like the c'd's. Howe, Ide burn the negative if I were you. Emme, the dude abides. Love and peace to all and to all a good night. Patti

Date: Wed Dec 5 11:00
Adrian (underthesurface@hotmail.com):

On a more happy note look at: http://lorseau.free.fr/indexconcert.htm for some great pics from the Giant Sand Barbican show!

Date: Wed Dec 5 10:25
james s (damn my spelling):

...talk to NO one... Later.

Date: Wed Dec 5 10:24
james s (a shame to cut down a good tree to get rid of one bad apple but):

perhaps this tree should come down for awhile. What a drag. I'm not tired of this site (as I'm sure everyone can tell). You good folks have kept me company each day here at work where I talk to know one (kind of isolated). However, I think I'll give it a rest here for a little awhile myself, let the air clear, if it ever does. Meet you on the island in the meantime.

Date: Wed Dec 5 10:04
another (idea):

and delete her photo - positive or negative it does not deserve to be on this site.. I think enough time has been wasted on all of this!

Date: Wed Dec 5 09:57
uggggly (you crazy?):

tired of this forum... given up on it.. blame most of it on avalon-bird-whatever the hell you are... Mike, come up with a new method pronto - - - - to lock out the crazies

Date: Wed Dec 5 09:55
Patti (holy cows):

This is getting stranger by the minute!!!!! I was just gonna thank Mitch for the lovley George Harrison c'd that he sent and tell Poot that his was on the way and BAM !!!!She really is twisted isnt she. Thats not Howe on there either. He told me so. I can barely breath but Im just glad that your all aware of the nature of this beast and you know whats real. Robyn, have you ever considered an exorsist? You really need one. You dont belong here in this place of goodness. You are a truly evil person.....meds or no meds. Patti

Date: Wed Dec 5 09:26
poot (whoa, nelly (bessie, for ol' matt 1)):

Jazz: Serge Chaloff: Blue Serge, Miles: Live-Evil, Ellington: Indigos, Monk: Alone (complete Col. solo recordings) & Live at the It club. Movies: Evil Dead 2, Holy Grail, Un Chien Andalou, Firemen's Ball, L.A. Story. Covers: Frank Black: Changing Of The Guard or maybe I'm Goin' Down, Howe: Still horses comin'... Pixies: Head On... Drink Small: I really don't want to know. yeah... good enough for now. As for the outbreak of identity-crisis-es on here ... what can you do? Ignore? Attack? What's the best way to deal with those who abuse the facelessness of the internet? love, poot-0-rama

Date: Wed Dec 5 09:13
frak (()):

How lame can this woman get? So Robyn is up to her old, tired tricks again. She could have at least spelled Patti's name correctly. I suppose that's asking a lot from a paranoid, delusional soul.

Date: Wed Dec 5 08:55
** (em):

looks like the glue sniffer is on a rampage

Date: Wed Dec 5 08:53
emm (mmm):

**The Dude, eh? that would actually be very cute--i like the discussion going on here--the "best vs, favorite"--I only have a second so I'll add Living in Oblivian and The Producers and maybe Serpico?Maybe Alfie? have a lovely day, all.:)

Date: Wed Dec 5 08:47
patty keating (you asked for it):

Tucson is the cult/herion capital of the United States. I am the head of the "Tucson Witches." I have tortured and murdered many people, many innocent, young, beautiful, talented women because I am jealous and get power from it. I am a TERRORIST.

Date: Wed Dec 5 08:22
james s (and, em):

since you like the big lebowski (I do as well), perhaps you should call your kitten the Dude.

Date: Wed Dec 5 08:19
mike (06:00):

I'm surprised no ones mentioned 'Groundhog Day'........I could watch that film over and over again.

Date: Wed Dec 5 08:16
tom (tom.alban@eudoramail.com):

oops, and I forgot 'The Man who wasn't there' - Coen Brothers' best yet IMHO.

Date: Wed Dec 5 08:14
Tom (tom.alban@eudoramail.com):

Not the best films ever, but the films I'd like to take to a desert island at the moment - Blade Runner, Blood Simple, Run Lola Run, Amores Perros. Other good stuff recently - American Beauty, Run Lola Run, Ratcatcher, Crouching Tiger (though I'm not sure that would repay repeated viewings). Also 'Bombay' which is Hindi (complete with song and dance sequences) but also a serious and powerful film about intercommunal rioting. BTW Breathless is Godard not Truffaut. His 'Bande à Part' (recently rereleased) is remarkably good fun for a French New Wave film and inspired the dance scene in Pulp Fiction.

Date: Wed Dec 5 07:49
thom (the hotel at marienbad):

Thanks, james s, for the confirmation. And a fine call on the Diary of A Country Priest. May I suggest also A Man Escaped - perhaps appropriate for the desert island, although my favourite Bresson movie may be L'Argent. Decisions, decisions ...

Date: Wed Dec 5 07:32
treygoba (oz):

The best g.s. album might be Chore. Center of the Universe and Dreaded Brown Recluse get the most play (esp. center). That's a great question btw. I've seen "Waiting for Guffman" a zillion times, but I don't think it's one of the "best" movies on my list. Is it fluff (drivel) vs. deep impact? I think Apocalypse Now is one of the "best" movies, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to watch it repeatedly. Ditto for Crumb. Steve Martin's "The Jerk" otoh... I can't listen to Jeff Buckley because of the association(s), yet I'd rate "Grace" as one of the best of the 90's (or any decade). Ditto for Nirvana. As we approach the magazine/critics barrage (garbage), maybe the distinction should be between "favorite" vs. "best" vs. "influential"?

Date: Wed Dec 5 06:53
james s (that's):

StarDUST memories. Sorry Woody.

Date: Wed Dec 5 06:50
james s (so view the modern man, looking looking looking like a soft soft picasso):

allow me to throw Lolita (the SK version), and Gandhi into the pile. Yes tHom, I sometimes find I don't watch "the best" as often as my "favorites", for example, I wouldn't say Dazed and Confused is the "best", but I've seen it more times than any of the "desert island" flicks I've listed so far (except Holy Grail, which I've seen too many times to count). Office Space was perty durn funny too. and all Coen brother's movies... the old black & white & french Diary of a Country Priest, Starlight Memories,...

Date: Wed Dec 5 06:07
tHom (the land where the bong tree grows):

I thought I'd have a stab at the five movies thing but I'm useless at picking favourites. I think I'd definitely include This Is Spinal Tap in the desert island milieu - you can watch it again and again. But this list thing raises a question that's troubled me for some time: If you had to name your "favourite" gs record, would it be the same album that you'd refer to as the "best" - and would either of these be the one you actually played the most? I know for my part that these criteria would probably result in three different albums. If a stranger to gs asked me for their "best", I'd probably name Chore; if pushed for my "favourite" I'd name several at once to confuse the interrogator; and yet clinical tests have shown that I play The Love Songs more often than any other. Is this just me or is it a common phenomenon?

Date: Wed Dec 5 05:23
trey from oz (tharrison@eldoradoschools.org):

Best of 2001--Memento; Bottle Rocket; Raising Arizona; Taxi Driver; Last Tango in Paris; American Beauty; Fight Club; Rushmore; Seventh Samauri; Dr. Strangelove; Unforgiven; The Last Seduction; and of course- The Last Waltz. Should I go on?

Date: Wed Dec 5 03:36
glue sniffer (more rubish):

hello again spending out alot latley. spent last night on sombodies cannal boat one of those long thin barges. he was a painter but i thought he was going to kill me? smoked too much pot and couldnt get out of the boat been singing like jim morrioson earler and met this guy and his dog but i was verry rude to him, so kids dont get on house boats with strangers and more importantly buy your own drugs

Date: Wed Dec 5 03:08
Guni ((Yester*em's* kitten)):

What about Georgia (on your mind)?

Date: Wed Dec 5 03:05
Guni ((island movies)):

... pretty nice list, I'd like to add "Brazil", "Thunderheart" and "Field of Dreams". And maybe one about vampires, Mitch?

Date: Tue Dec 4 23:52
la dee daa dee (daa):

NO!!! It is I who is the mysterious one who lives in the Ice and captured the soul of Robyn. Your mother is in here too...would you like to talk to her...wait, wrong movie. Grow up guys, just have fun with it and whine about your petty quarrels when you cry yourself to sleep at night.

Date: Tue Dec 4 17:32
erwin (to follow mitch):

but badlands has that 'i-will-give-you-a-dollar-if-you-eat-that-collie martin sheen introduction' which is unforgettable indeed..

Date: Tue Dec 4 17:22
erwin (at the movies):

even more difficult.. but timewise: voyage dans la lune (georges méliès) / modern times (chaplin) / brief encounter (david lean) / the appartment (billy wilder) / apocalypse now (coppola) / andmanymanymore....

Date: Tue Dec 4 16:19
** (m):

ooh and Big Lebowski!! of course!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Date: Tue Dec 4 16:18
m (**):

movies you say? Blue in the Face, help,head and quadraphenia(sp?), mixed nuts, life of brian/ holy grail/ how to irritate people. Oh I don't know--my head is hurting. lists are hard. Nobody likes my George idea?? She's a girl so howabout Georgie Girl(another to my list by the way)--aw never mind--I guess my kitten is yesterday's news..poor thing. I saw POEtry by the way& it was amazing& you all should get the soundtrack..Somehow Perfect Day blended beautifully with the raven..who knew? take care all:)

Date: Tue Dec 4 15:23
k (films):

grand canyon/love and death/big lebowski/bottle rocket/box of moonlight

Date: Tue Dec 4 15:06
Blaine (-movies@work):

A Touch of Evil (Welles); Vertigo (Hitchcock); The Wild Bunch (Peckinpah); Breathless (Truffaut?); The Usual Suspects (?); Meatballs (Murray)

Date: Tue Dec 4 15:01
d (alright):

top 5 eh :) well , here goes....'ko - ya -ni - scotch - e', 'hambuger hill', 'ferris buller's day off', 'deliverence', 'taxi driver'.

Date: Tue Dec 4 14:52
james s (movies):

drugstore cowboy; blue velvet; apocolypse now; kundun; now i'm drawing a blank... holy grail for sure!

Date: Tue Dec 4 14:45
Mitch (off to bed):

Hmmmmmmmmm...I like this island so far. Movies...just five, uh, er...well, since Tom already picked "Down By Law" I'll leave it out (okay, this could change at any second, but for now): "Badlands," "Maborosi," "Network," "Full Metal Jacket," and my current favorite... Kiyoshi Kurosawa's "Charisma." Nite everyone. Or good day, I guess.

Date: Tue Dec 4 14:29
Tom ((movie time)):

Jim Jarmusch 'Down by law', Coppola 'The Godfather', Billy Wilder 'Double Indemnity', Jones and Gilliam 'Monthy Python and the Holy Grail', Sergio Leone, Truffaut,..

Date: Tue Dec 4 14:10
james s (hum):

yes, Tom. Dead Flag Blues. quite prophetic it seems.

Date: Tue Dec 4 14:00
Tom (tom.alban@eudoramail.com):

Jazz albums? I'd definitely go for 'Kind of Blue' or 'Milestones' over 'Sketches of Spain' - Miles is much better unarranged: jazz isn't classical music, and anyway Rodriguez (Concerto d'Aranjuez) was the Spanish fascists' court composer. Books: best book of last century in my view was Toni Morrison's Beloved. Otherwise for entertainment Pynchon's hard to beat (as well as allegedly being a Sand fan) maybe Gravity's Rainbow. Anyone here read Mark Danielewski's House of Leaves? Not a great book but a highly entertaining and intriguing one. How about this desert island has a film projector and you can take five films?

Date: Tue Dec 4 13:49
Howe (this is getting weird):

I wish I could record at pacyderm

Date: Tue Dec 4 13:47
Tom (tom.alban@eudoramail.com):

Covers - Patti Smith's Gloria (hearing that in the staid 70s was very sexy), Cassandra Wilson's Harvest Moon, Kronos Quartet's Purple Haze (never knew a string quartet could make so much noise, Kirsten Hirsch's Trouble. BTW has anyone listened to the lyrics on Godspeedyoublackemperor!'s f#a#infinity since September 11th? Who needs Nostradamus when you've got Canadian hippies!

Date: Tue Dec 4 12:19
Robyn (the real one):

I'm sorry, Howe. Someone else is pretending to be me. I'm sorry all you Sand people.

Date: Tue Dec 4 12:15
bean (blue streak):

No Robyn no. They are tricking you. Don't believe them.

Date: Tue Dec 4 12:10
Robyn (MN):

And I am sorry for all the trouble I've caused.

Date: Tue Dec 4 12:09
Robyn (no, it isn't me):

I don't know who is using my name, but I didn't post that last message. I am really sorry and someone else is trying to make it look like I'm not. And I do love Wilco. I would never claim to own this site. Whoever is saying they are me and saying those awful things must stop now.

Date: Tue Dec 4 12:08
avalon (bird):

I exist in the ice and must keep the winter wind at bay. I have taken Robyn. I have made Robyn and she is the one who is the bird and she is the one who is the one I must apologize for. If she doesn't claw at it she won't understand.

Date: Tue Dec 4 11:36
Captain Scarlet (bhgh99@yahoo.com):

Who cares about your damn photo , get a life and get off our message board.

Date: Tue Dec 4 10:16
Robyn (the good one) (Moorhead, MN):

Howe wrote the last message because he's too lame to talk to me himself. This is my sight since it has my photo on it and I'll say whatever I want until it is corrected. I am not selfish, in fact it is the other way around. I'd really like to talk about great music such as Wilco and many others but these sandlice keep interupting. Anyone want to hear about Pacyderm?

Date: Tue Dec 4 10:02
js (that's):

civilization.

Date: Tue Dec 4 09:42
js (this is radio clash on pirate satalite):

yes, we should find an island and move out there with our music and books and koans and start up the most powerful and most kick-ass pirate radio station ever, and we could be munching on bananas and putting out the tunes for the rest of the world while it blows itself to bits in the name of god or freedom or money or oil or civilazation or "our way of life" or moral decency or security or whatever the new excuse is...

Date: Tue Dec 4 08:17
Blaine (@stranded):

James, Are we all gonna be on the same island? Would be a nice radio station, all we need are pirates. Miles/Evans - Sketches of Spain; Coltrane - A Love Supreme; Jazz Messengers - Dangerous Liaisons; Velvets - Live 1969; Mingusx5; The Razor's Edge by Maugham; Zen Mind Beg Mind by Suzuki

Date: Tue Dec 4 07:24
james s (japanese and such):

mitch, i just finished House of the Sleeping Beauties (Kawabata). Read some Tanizaki not long ago too (diary and naomi). And, of course, Percy, that great louisiana bourbon-loving existentialist catholic novelist. Yes. Well, thanks to those of you who sort of accepted my mission. Anyone read Positively Fourth Street by Hadju, about dylan and friends in the early days?? If so, would you recommend it? Oh, and also Suzuki (DT) and all of that wonderful zen madness/sanity.

Date: Tue Dec 4 06:25
john (Coltrane covers):

Mike Watt's been known to slip "A Love Supreme" into the middle of The Stooges "Fun House" !!!

Date: Tue Dec 4 05:44
covers (r us) (London):

Biily Bragg's Jeanne (Smiths) Lemonheads's Luka (Vega) Michelle Shocked's Leavin Louisiana (?) Garbage's Kick My Ass (Chesnutt) Heard Will Oldham has done some Kevin Coyne Covers as well momma dunt allow no jazz in our house

Date: Tue Dec 4 05:44
covers (r us) (London):

Biily Bragg's Jeanne (Smiths) Lemonheads's Luka (Vega) Michelle Shocked's Leavin Louisiana (?) Garbage's Kick My Ass (Chesnutt) Heard Will Oldham has done some Kevin Coyne Covers as well momma dunt allow no jazz in our house

Date: Tue Dec 4 03:17
Guni ((don't ask me questions...)):

..seems I don't know the answer.

Date: Tue Dec 4 03:10
Mitch (Tee Cee):

World's End is a good one, though not sure it'd sustain me on a desert island. Come to think of it, maybe I'd go for the transcendental earthiness of Whitman if stuck in that situation. Guess I should rent Castaway and see what Tom Hanks did to survive. Talked to a volleyball, was it?

Date: Tue Dec 4 03:07
Mitch (wide awake in the cold, cold night):

Hey Guni...well, wish I could say I was avoiding the heat...but it's gotten darn chilly here the last week or so. I'm afraid I'm just on my usual screwy vampire hours. Went shopping yesterday morning and the sunlight nearly killed me.

Date: Tue Dec 4 03:06
glue sniffin (helium guitar licks):

well here is how it goes e 5-3-023-/-5-3-02323/ a7 hes a hard man to get to know told you so. willl right the rest when i get my guitar. requests i can do them all

Date: Tue Dec 4 02:52
Guni ((to Tommy & Mitch)):

Ja was, auch schon wach, mein LIeber! Hey Mitch, is it still that hot in Tucson that you can't sleep at four somewhat in the morning? What about T.C. Boyle's World's End?

Date: Tue Dec 4 02:47
Mitch (desert island jazz):

James James, I've tried to narrow my list down to four or five, but just can't get there. But I can tell you who'd I want: Coltrane, Mingus, Monk, Davis, and likely Django Reinhardt (counts as jazz, right?). Bookwise, I have no idea. Day of the Locusts by Nathenael West has been a favorite since childhood, and The Moviegoer too. Probably though, it'd be something by Endo or Kawabata. Teach Us To Outgrow Our Madness by Oe is a good enough choice, I suppose. By the way, I thought whoever picked Robert Frank's The Americans was a fine choice. When I started with photography long ago that book was my bible.

Date: Tue Dec 4 02:43
stuart (terminal watch land):

Still more cover versions - The Stranglers' gripping "Walk on By", Aztec Camera melancholic take on Van Halen's "Jump" in the style of Loaded-era Velvets, and - true genius here - Van Morrison's wonderful remake of "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue" with Them. There was a really cheapo lp released in the UK in the early 80's called "we do 'em our way" which was packed with punk/new wave covers including the Flying Lizard's "Money" and Devo's "Satisfaction", what a strange treat it was.

Date: Tue Dec 4 02:41
Mitch (covered again):

Going along with Guni's picks: "Solitary Man" by The Sidewinders.

Date: Tue Dec 4 02:39
Mitch (So You Wanna Be A Love Supreme):

Mike, so strange and cool. I'm trying to imagine how the two would weave together. Maybe Rich H. will put out a live recording, cuz I'd love to hear it.

Date: Tue Dec 4 02:06
Tommy Gailer ((stil asleep somehow)):

Morgen Guni! :-)

Date: Tue Dec 4 00:58
Guni (to the big sa-wa-ro:):

... and the rest of the Luminarios concert fit well, too! ++Which brings me back to the cover-song discussion: Powder Finger by the Luminarios and All along the watchtower by the Sandrubies. ++

Date: Mon Dec 3 17:54
Tom (only for people who want to go cuckoo in the room):

Miles Davis 'Bitches Brew'

Date: Mon Dec 3 16:37
pk (pk@@@@@@):

This guy, http://www.creighton.edu/~edavila/cd.html is selling glum for 7$ if you are interested. Paul

Date: Mon Dec 3 15:36
kf (pdx):

good idea james- archie shepp-fire music/miles-on the corner/art blakey-roots and herbs/donald byrd-new perspectives/Isotope 217-unstable molecule/HIM-new features/count basie-live at the sands

Date: Mon Dec 3 15:24
mike (sa-wa-ro):

Mitch.... a true coincidence....just back from Germany...caught Rich Hopkins last three shows of his tour... and he plays 'A Love Supreme' in the middle part of the Byrds 'So You Want To Be A Rock n Roll Star'.... and it fits real fine.

Date: Mon Dec 3 15:00
james (last time):

wasn't intending to exclude anyone from the fun. Anyone with favorite jazz records should feel free to post them. Just trying to tap the good taste of the folks on this board (flattery)to get ideas for discovering new good music, and if the four records in a locked room idea makes you feel claustrophobic (or limited), then just throw out a couple of your faves and discard the silly mission business.

Date: Mon Dec 3 14:05
erwin (mission impossible):

okay james. a tough one. here i go. trane in antibes 65 / bird at the high-hat 53 / maybe an old jelly roll morton or louis armstrong's hot five / complete billie holiday on verve disguised as one cd :-) -------- and for the book, to stay in same whirl: robert frank -- the americans........ your turn.

Date: Mon Dec 3 13:29
chrisztine (not on a mission):

i know about the book, but i don't accept limitations in music.

Date: Mon Dec 3 13:27
chrisztine (O):

yohohoh, oh yeah is fun ---- and then ten minutes of sinnerman. all for husbands and kind of blue people. hey, em, someone had the idea that 'aspirine' might be a good name for a cat. reminds you always of what you have or what you need. but if he's not a wild one and only little hair, i'd probably try 'alka' or 'seltzer'. but i don't live with cats.

Date: Mon Dec 3 13:19
james s (Mitch, Erwin, John, Blaine, Tommy Scrollin' Gailer, Tom, and Howe (if you are lurking here)::::):

Here is your mission, should you choose to accept it. If you were going to be locked up in a room for a long time and you were allowed to have only four jazz cds (has to be on disk; they have no record player in this roon), what would you take. And, you're only allowed to take one book... this could get silly. Still, I would be interested in your responses (on the jazz) if you are interested in giving them...

Date: Mon Dec 3 13:01
erwin (impulse-ive):

trane in japan 1966. no mcCoy tyner or elvin jones there to fill gaps, but my favorite things in a one hour stretch.. yepyep. and james, if the bop's too high, try lady day to bring it down again.. sweet. and strange, fruit.

Date: Mon Dec 3 12:30
james s (who, me?):

this horse appreciates being led to good water and will drink its fill. Of course, the list has exceeded the budget... but hopefully life will be long and good music will remain available...

Date: Mon Dec 3 11:34
Mitch (horse to water):

A Love Supreme...oh yes yes. Also, My Favorite Things...

Date: Mon Dec 3 11:20
john (aintgwinewhistledixienomo):

James - If you come across a copy of Duke Ellington's "Money Jungle" you better git hit in yo soul - Ellington - piano, Mingus - Bass, Roach - drums, hard driving and sweet.

Date: Mon Dec 3 10:52
james s (kerouacattack):

"...whistling them on to the brink of eternity like the holy mists. We blop and plop in the waters of slaughter and white meat and die one by one. And how sweet it is when you hear Charlie Parker tell it. Lethally he whistled the perfect horn. . . Wailed his little saxophone, the alto, with piercing clear lament in perfect tune and shining harmony." I do have one Bird cd, and I have Coltrain's Blue Train, and a tape a friend made for me of Love Supreme. Thanks again, all.

Date: Mon Dec 3 09:59
erwin (_-):

..and there's no dizzyness without bird. bebopaloola.

Date: Mon Dec 3 09:55
Blaine (@pt-II):

Colin, the Hollywood Hallelujah Shrek-shuffle has Rufus on the sndtrk but Cale's version in the movie. Any idea why both are used?

Date: Mon Dec 3 09:37
Blaine (@work):

James, the jazz river is a wide and deep one. Have fun. I'd also add a deluxe reccomendation for John Coltrane's A Love Supreme and the live Village Vanguard stuff w/Eric Dolphy and Dizzy's Swing Low Sweet Cadillac for "Cush".

Date: Mon Dec 3 09:31
Robyn (avalon robo bean birdteeth):

I wanted to take this opportunity to apologize for being such a pest on the this comments board. I've at last realized how rude and insensitive I've been, and how I've taken out my frustrations in a very selfish way. I'm also sorry that I've decided to use this place, which was meant for fans and admirers of Giant Sand, to behave like a child who deserately wants attention. My ramblings here have no doubt been annoying and have, ultimately, ruined the pleasure this board brings to a lot of people who aren't at all a party to what my issues are. If I were smart, I'd get back on my medication, which would probably subdue the many individuals that occupy my mind and speak to me. So please accept this apology for being so thoughtless and selfish and just all-around insensitive--because I understand now that while I have issues with Howe's use of my photograph, I'm really taking out my frustrations in a place and on people who have nothing to do with it at all.

Date: Mon Dec 3 08:34
bean (avalon):

I got to watch Wilco perform/record at Pacyderm Studios in Cannon Falls...it was soooooo great.

Date: Mon Dec 3 08:32
Robyn (Cormorant):

I heard the mediation for George Harrison is going to happen at 1 oclock Pacific time, then I heard 1:30....anyone know? I think George is a great name for a kitty but I also like Mercy. This morning I started to teach Rusty, my Mom's cockatiel, Miles Davis melodies....funny.

Date: Mon Dec 3 08:31
glue sniffer (all the way home piggies):

and then there were three No Not the beatles including pete best but travaling wilbury's another sad twist in the wilbury rock. only lefty can save us. bet you all love that....... on a lighter note not the lighter from whoms gass i so enjoy but more junk. beating you all in the coolness stakes whats the daddy count now on this site? probably high weird hey most bands miss the generation gap but you just glue them all toghether toggels of love. mr p

Date: Mon Dec 3 07:43
di (...):

"...in the dark, near the heart, close to real, desire -in my words, in my eyes,can't you feel the desire -we will wait for the night, we will wait for desire -bitter sweet, laugh and cry, tears that taste of desire -keep in touch, keep in track, keep within the reach of desire- there'll be times when we'll do AnYthIng for desire..."------The Sound------"desiiiiiiire"

Date: Mon Dec 3 06:41
james s (dancewithmepigface):

thanks all for the monk/mingus advice. I've got a good idea of where to start.

Date: Mon Dec 3 00:06
Tommy scrollin`Gailer (tgailer@yahoo.de):

Colin, good to hear that Wilco still are rockin`like that...with a new label, they should bring out "Yankee Hotel Foxtrott" soo. Go to:http://pub5.ezboard.com/fwilcohowtofightloneliness and join the freaks (incl. me as Krautathaus) there, sometimes rude but always funny! To Monk: always had a bit problem with Mingus complex style and arrangements...i usually prefer more "transparent" sounds. On a Steve Wynn concert, two weeks ago, they played a mix-tape of Mingus stuff that i really liked, and asked Steve himself about the compi. He told me then that most of the stuff was from the "Oh Yeah" album...so i think i will get me this one soon. Steve is a unbelievable charming and nice guy to talk with...so was Chris Cacavas too.

Date: Sun Dec 2 23:30
Colin (Willy Wonka Wilco):

The Wilco show in Portland this past thursday was awesome...Tweedy did three encores which were rockin, but one of the weird thing was the way they opened the show: with a recording of A World of Pure Imagination, the song from Willy Wonka and The Chocolate Factory. Tweedy was also playing with distortion on his iMac laptop on stage...WAVE OF THE FUTURE!!! The new album is really good, as always better live.

Date: Sun Dec 2 19:34
Mitch (MonkMingus):

Not sure if it's on CD, but if so I highly recommend "The Great Concert of Charles Mingus," and "The Black Saint and The Sinner Lady." As for Monk, my personal fave is probably "Misterioso".

Date: Sun Dec 2 19:03
e (m):

"little" that is?:)

Date: Sun Dec 2 19:02
e (mmm):

*****Tom, I admit it--I feel terrible: I do have a kitten but it's @ my mom's house and I've been staying w/ a friend's for alittle bit--I admit it-I'm doing the icky thing--calling it "kitty" or "cat" just 'cos I can't find the perfect name...I know that's mean& I don't want an identity crisis forthcoming so how about this? How about George? it's a littls skinny light brown tabby with big light green eyes that leaps alot---Why not "George" since he's about two weeks old--It could be like a rebirth or tribute--who's with me???

Date: Sun Dec 2 18:39
tom (++):

and i don't think that em 's got a kitten ::;;;)) ?

Date: Sun Dec 2 18:35
tom (always a way to ride):

Monk, 'Straight, No Chaser'has been sitting in my mind for the last couple of days. That's 1966. And then we got Eric Dolphy, anno 1964, "Out to lunch", the responses of each player reveal what was possible when each participant was thoroughly conversant with traditional techniques yet in no way felt shackled by them.... Hoopla to that...............

Date: Sun Dec 2 18:16
erwin (_-):

well james.. i think the key here is the year of recording. kind of blue was done in 1959. as well as 'mingus ah um', and 'mingus dynasty'.. i like those two a lot. same year john coltrane released 'giant steps'.. i suppose monk must have done a good one around the same time.. anyone?

Date: Sun Dec 2 17:46
james s (miles monk mingus again and amen di):

Any of you who were earlier singing the praises of Monk and Mingus want to give some advice to a mere neophyte in the realm of jazz? I have a handful of Miles records, an early quintet record, Kind of Blue, Silent Way, and Bitches Brew. The one I put on most is Kind of Blue. If you had to recommend ONE record from Monk or Mingus, one important record that contained traces of an earlier mode and hints of directions to be taken in the future, the "kind of blue" of either of these two artists (or both), what would it (they) be?? I hope that wasn't too confusing. I hope a good weekend was had by all.

Date: Sun Dec 2 11:43
di (Seattle - Prague - Genoa - Brussels):

this weekend we celebrate the Seattle anniversary. it was there were 2 years ago, on the 30th of november 1999 for the first time a voice was raised against capitalism and globalisation. a voice raised by students, workers, people from every race, religion, sex and age. the anticapitalistic movement that was born in Seattle continued and grew stronger in Quebec, Washington, Gothenburg, Melbourne, Prague, consolidated this summer in Genoa and continues now on the 13 - 14 of december in Brussels. no to wars and military equipment, no more starvation and inequality in wealth, no to violence and the violation of human rights. let's change our world - let's build up an equal and just planet - now it's the time - let's globAlise the rEsistAnce !

Date: Sun Dec 2 05:03
Sammy (l'oiseau bleu):

Hi everyone,for those who helped me on the choice of the Harmony guitar(Blaine,Thom,job,james..),I wanted to let you know I didn't buy this guitar ,probably because it buzz on the neck,& I didn't feel it was The one I needed. Here in France guitars are very expensive(for example you 'll have to pay mas o menos 2000 $ for a vintage Jazzmaster...a little more than 1000 $ for a new one.)That's why I try to find "cheap"(cheapless than in USA!) guitars (framus,eko or harmony),but I ask myself if I am not going to buy a good one from the states.I know that talking about guitars is not the most interesting thing about music,but now ,I really need a good tool.So if you sell a Guitar,let me know,Thanks.Sammy.(P.S:I really advice you to buy the last live recordings from EVAN DANDO "Live at the brattle theatre" with "griffith Sunset" from Modular records Australia) www.multimania.com/pommelos

Date: Sat Dec 1 16:52
cavenan (center of the universe):

Erik, I read in the Zia Zine (local record store zine)it was Cris who play drums on the first song on Bootleg Vol. 1. This was a couple of years ago, and my memories shot (the arizona sun). Maybe Howe can help out on this one? Does aynone have any info on Cris's current where abouts or condition? Missing the old Meat Puppets.

Date: Sat Dec 1 14:29
BD ((+)):

How come the mail is still being handled for Orders to Rainer/Patti Keating But not to Giant Sand Stuff. Where you guys at owom are only taking email of fax. Checks are the only way to pay. Please Explain how I can buy without a credit card.

Date: Sat Dec 1 10:32
Jason (sherrett@nothingbutnet.net):

Yes indeed, Howe's appearance in San Francisco this Monday is cancelled, made official by an email from the venue. Oh well, maybe Howe will grace a San Francisco stage in the not too distant futur

Date: Sat Dec 1 09:42
chrisztine (..and rain keeps falling...):

tonight is blue moon...

Date: Fri Nov 30 23:17
howe has cancelled out of the san francisco great american show (.):

..

Date: Fri Nov 30 18:37
Tommy Gailer ((scrollin`covers)):

A beautiful cover i would love to hear live: Steve Wynn`s "Venus"...and Giant Sand`s "Music Arcade". Anybody got the new Tori Amos?

Date: Fri Nov 30 15:16
:J: (usual ):

My 1st daughter is 1 y/old on december 7. Howe I am indeed in the dada club. Rob and family... (((WOW)))... Bought her a drum to walk early with. Let me hear you all big up... "Da Boop"

Date: Fri Nov 30 15:08
j ((covers)):

Passtime paradise. I never knew. Wonder.

Date: Fri Nov 30 15:05
(((J-}}} (w@dz):

thanks for your thanks, father whose name shall evermore be spelt wrong.

Date: Fri Nov 30 13:24
Rob Stanier (Robtstanier@aol.com):

Just a quick one. Not been able to post for a while what with being up to my neck in love, sick and s**t with my newborn. Never thought I could be so happy cleaning up another persons waste but Thomas Casper has got me and my better half totally hooked. Sure he keeps us up all night screamin for food but he also looks at me like im the only person in the world that matters. Priceless. Best wishes to you all and especially J who kick started me to post again. Silver Jews album out in UK on Monday new sandman. Does life get any better than this? Good night George and Thankyou.XXX

Date: Fri Nov 30 09:26
taxman (long, long, long):

while my guitar gently weeps

Date: Fri Nov 30 09:09
e (m):

***Rainer's within you without you is my favorite beatle cover by far--and George has always been my favorite beatle by far..man.

Date: Fri Nov 30 08:59
bean (strawberry fields):

I hope Mr. Harrison is dancing with "Saint Sofie". I hope he tells Rainer how he feels about copyright violations and bad covers. I bet he's working helping the other less fortunate souls make the transition.

Date: Fri Nov 30 07:42
Patti (no rain yet):

Moment of silence for George.....I urge any of you that own Rainer's Nocturnes to play track one which is "within you without you" Another brilliant cover. He was his favorite Beatle to be sure. Strange that it was brain cancer in November. Time slips away is on the "worried Spirits" c'd. My son Gabe and grand daughter Serena Rain are visiting from California. (I guess the Rain did come)We all woke up to the news together.... bittersweet morning, sorry i woke you up so early Howe. Say hi to Rainer for me George!

Date: Fri Nov 30 01:52
Colin (George):

You have to be kidding...

Date: Fri Nov 30 01:00
Mitch (@):

George Harrison :(

Date: Thu Nov 29 20:55
Jason (sherrett@nothingbutnet.net):

Howe Gelb is still playing with The Eels and Ben Kweller at the Great American Music Hall in San Francisco next Monday, December 3rd. As near as I can tell this is a one-off gig since Howe is not accompanying The Eels the night before in LA, or anywhere else. And of course this show is not listed on this very website. But I'm gonna assume that next Monday when I trek down to the Great American Music Hall I'll be greeted by that mischievous smirk that Howe does so well. And maybe he'll even do his version of The Pilgrim if there's time. Or maybe not. But I'd recommend that anyone within earshot of San Francisco grab a friend and come on down to the Great American Music Hall for a fine night of rock. And one more thing Howe, don't forget to bring some CDs to sell this time.

Date: Thu Nov 29 18:34
Question (Not a musician):

Creative insight, please. As an engineer I'm intrigued by M. Ward's music. Its sinusoidal for awhile, my head is nodding, and then there is a discontinuity--a chord or vocal breaks pattern or a drum beat doesn't cut in like it did the last time--there is anxiety. Then the chord hits right again, or the voice is on "target", or the drum picks up where it left off--and the world shifts back in focus. What I don't understand is how these discontinuities or roughness of texture contribute to such an aesthetically pleasing whole. My limited experience is that form usually follows function, but in the case of this music, the departure from form is fundamental to the beauty. Insight please?

Date: Thu Nov 29 16:42
Tom (oh well):

Evan Dando covering 'Knowing me, knowing you' by Abba. By the way, i learned playing guitar on an EKO.

Date: Thu Nov 29 15:46
erik (my 2 cents):

I believe i read somewhere that Kurt kirkwood played drums on the first song from the official bootleg vol. 1.

Date: Thu Nov 29 14:52
poot (singin' in my "Nashville Dylan" voice):

I don't think there are any Kirkwoods on 'hisser'. There's a winston watson, and some grandaddies. CHeck it out: http://www.sa-wa-ro.com/HoweGelb-Pages/howe-hisser.htm -poot

Date: Thu Nov 29 14:36
deer (I dont know):

John - I believe Kurt put down some drum tracks for a song on Hisser. Although, It may have been Kris Kirkwood. I am trying to find out info on the Giant Sand/Howe/Kirkwood connection. They were both very active in Arizona in the 80's and I assume there was some interaction between Howe and Kurt during that time. The early Meat Puppets stuff was very influential to many musicians. I was wondering what he thought of their music.

Date: Thu Nov 29 13:23
jpr (waterboy):

the yeats cover: the stolen child. (coincidence: gonna see the waterboys play tomorrow)

Date: Thu Nov 29 13:14
Colin (Robyn Hitchcock):

Other cool covers by that crazy brit: More Than This, and The Wind Cries Mary, and Mrs. Robinson with REM.

Date: Thu Nov 29 13:09
whoops, (that's):

rusty cage

Date: Thu Nov 29 13:04
james s (don't hog the covers):

patti smith doing rock and roll star; johnny cash doing rusy cage; the damned doing white rabit; cowboy junkies doing sweet jane; nico doing the end; sex pistols doing anarchy in the uk (who did that originally? bobby goldsboro? the lettermen? just kidding) and just so you youngsters know, it is a pistols song and not a motley crew song. this thread should be resumed when the new giant sand record is released. isn't it all covers??? do i remember green on red doing dancing barefoot (patti smith), or did i dream it? how about hendrix doing all along the watchtower...

Date: Thu Nov 29 12:55
tracey (it is dark at 4:30. yuck):

...speaking of covers....The Rheostatics covering Lightfoot's Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. Any canucks on this list should be smiling and nodding. And if they're not, they better go out and get some Rheostatics. Hey what *did* Em name her cat? I named mine Crackey (short for Crackhead) She's grown into a lovely plump non-junkie like kitty.

Date: Thu Nov 29 12:18
john (mightyniceoutsidemightycoooldinhere):

what's the Curt Kirkwood/Hisser connection? Curt's left AZ and gone to Texas. Makin' the rounds of the country by hisself with his accoustic (and a few pedals of course) Check him out if he comes your way. I'm waiting to see if he'll come to FL, but I've heard a few recordings. Ferocious and sweet pickin' wizardry, Puppets songs reworked - sounding sweet, and of course general sillyness, and things I couldn't classify (eg - accoustic feedback that somehow becomes Battle Hymn of the Republic - "that was a little song called "That's what happens when you eat an actual bit of John Denver's body.")

Date: Thu Nov 29 11:29
Deer (In the Crosshair):

On the topic of covers, I submit Louie,Louie by Black Flag and Tunnel of love by the Az Meat Puppets. Howe- What is your relationship with Kurt Kirkwood? Any collaborations other than on "Hisser". What do you think about the "old" Meat Puppets?

Date: Thu Nov 29 11:07
Colin ((To Blaine)):

I think they used the Rufus Wainwright cover of Hallelujah in Shreck.

Date: Thu Nov 29 09:51
innis (anything@innis.co.uk):

Grandaddy do a cover of 'Here' by Pavement - released on 7" only here in the UK....I'm sure it's great but can't listen to it yet on account of busted record deck.!. also Nick Cave's version of 'Helpless' on a compilation of Neil Young covers called The Bridge is brilliant....in fact the whole l.p. is pretty good..... By the way, I can only find one comment on here regarding the Brighton show a couple of weeks back......it was a fine show indeed and many thanks to Howe et al for coming to my home town... may you soon return!(perhaps on yr way to Germany....hm?) Also........if anyone feels the need to read, 'Preston Falls' by David Gates is very very good. Contains,incidentally,a glancing reference to the aforementioned Neil Young.....

Date: Thu Nov 29 09:49
tHom ((on both conversational threads)):

Mike Scott does a couple of fine covers on the Fishermen's Blues record - Sweet Thing and that lovely adaptation of the Yeats poem (forgot the name of it). Sammy, in the end it's one of those decisions you'll just have to make with instinct but if you decide the guitar is worth it then that should make it so.

Date: Thu Nov 29 09:04
job (jld301@psu.edu):

Harmony? 30+ years ago somewhere there abouts-- a walk over the Black Diamond and hanging there on the wall at Jewlcor they had one--bought it. Ask Howe if he can remember that far back.

Date: Thu Nov 29 09:04
Blaine (@work):

...John Cale doing Cohen's Hallelujah (in Shrek); JBuckley doing ChiltoAxel's KangaRoo insideout; TBuckley doing Fred Neil's Dolphins; Chilton doing Femme Fatale. Lucinda doing Pos4thStreet; Dylan doing Rick Nelson's Lonesome Town; Townes doing Dead Flowers. Patti -- can that version of TimeSlips be found on album? Thanks

Date: Thu Nov 29 09:01
sammy (nowhere):

Thank you Thom,James and Blaine for the advices.I know that I need to try the guitar cause you need to feel it. But the man who sold it live far from my house ...That's why I needed to know more about Harmony even if I had seen the website.Why cheap guitars wouldn't have their own chance? The way you play and your own ideas with it are more important than anything. Howe plays sometimes on an Eko and Joey on an Airline no?

Date: Thu Nov 29 08:37
Patti (waiting for the rain):

Okay.....have any of you fine folks ever heard Mike Seeger (Pete's son) do his happy go lucky bango pickin version of Dylan's Ballad of Hollis Brown? (this is NOT a happy song) Dylan sings it so does that still qualify as a cover? Its very cool. Of course Rainer's cover of Time slips away is monumental (thanks Collin) Hope you all go out and howl at the blue moon on Friday. Its supposed to rain here in Tucson. Lets hope.....the desert is so thirsty. Love, Patti

Date: Thu Nov 29 07:48
james s (speaking of Leonard Cohen, and good covers...):

How about Jeff Buckley's cover of Hallelujah on Grace. HOLY smoke, chills down the spine every time I listen to it. The rain is pouring down here, flooding.

Date: Thu Nov 29 05:12
tHom (lunchbreak):

Doug Martsch does a cover of Cortez the Killer on the Built To Spill live record from last year. It's not that different from Neil Young's live version on ARC Weld -- until you get about 16:30 minutes into it and he hits this note that just holds forever while he starts scratching around underneath it, from there to the end a few minutes later you think yes, it was well worth the covering. On a different point (Sammy and his Harmony guitar), I've only been playing for about a year myself and I'm no expert but I'd say that as well as the look and sound of the thing, it's equally important that it feels right for you too - or is it just that I haven't played enough different guitars?

Date: Thu Nov 29 04:59
gluer boy sad esx (sniff):

glue glue your all so boriing i heard the other day that mrs jones had lost her hand bag any news ?

Date: Thu Nov 29 00:51
di (leonard cohen + k.kavafis):

spends 7 years in a buddist monastery, returns home and starts to write. 2 years after his new album the 'ten new songs' is released. One of them, 'alexandria' is inspired by the poetry of a great greek poet k.kavafis. In cohen hands alexandria, kavafis' beloved native town is transformed into a woman; they boh take leave of her in sorrow....mmm..sounds deliciously interesting

Date: Wed Nov 28 23:54
Sean (sean.tracey@btinternet.com):

Covers ? how about Giant Sand and P J Harvey doing Johnny Hit and Run Pauline by X at the Beyond Nashville show in London .

Date: Wed Nov 28 18:03
Mitch (covered):

Robyn Hitchcock's version of McCartney's "Let Me Roll It," and McCartney's version of Ian Dury's "I'm Partial To Your Abracadabra". Tom Waits: "Heigh Ho (The Dwarf's Marching Song)". William Shatner: "Rocket Man".

Date: Wed Nov 28 17:59
Mitch (cover this):

Lambchop's take on "Love TKO," the live version. Shonen Knife: "Don't Hurt My Little Sister". Elvis Costello: "Days". Johnny Cash: "One" and "Solitary Man". Pete Townshend: "Save It For Later". The Clash: "I Fought The Law". And, without question, "Route 66": Giant Sand.

Date: Wed Nov 28 17:35
Colin (theu2freak@yahoo.com):

Red House Painters front man Mark Kozelek has an album out that is comprised of awesome slow, accoustic AC/DC covers. He has also covered Silly Love Songs (McCartney), and All Mixed Up (The Cars). KD Lang's Drag album, Brian Ferry's Taxi album has some goodies, Yo La Tengo's Fakebook, Cassandra Wilson's U2 cover Love is Blindness.

Date: Wed Nov 28 14:44
j (((andaproblemwhenhe's...))):

Kris Kristofferson covers... "El Paso?" Sublime.

Date: Wed Nov 28 14:42
j (cold@thewoods):

gimme covers.

Date: Wed Nov 28 14:38
j (@the-woods):

Welcome, trees are very good indeed. New world tree care. Indeed.

Date: Wed Nov 28 14:03
Blaine (@work):

Sammy -- like James says it's all in the Ear of the Behearer. Harmonys range from budget models to the Rockets which were made with Gibson parts. ...and Leadbelly played a 12 string Harmony and Big Joe Williams made up his own 9-string from a Sovereign. They were at one point part of a company out of CHI who had a hand in Nationals, Supros and Silvertones as well (I think). If you like it, that's what matters most. Prices on most old musical gear is pretty arbitrary (and sad) for the avg person these days, but sometimes the cheaper funky stuff is has the most soul. I used to have a Harmony bass that would really feed back nice.

Date: Wed Nov 28 11:48
hey sammy again (james s):

I don't know how the dollar changes when you get to france, and I didn't see anything specific on the Hollywood model, so maybe it is a good price. That link should give you some research options. Those of you that didn't know about the sandman tree need to explore Mike's site a bit. All kinds of goodness here, like check out the Mp3s and the Archive.

Date: Wed Nov 28 11:07
james s (Hey Sammy):

If you like the way it sounds and the way it looks, then that's a big part of it, but I think the $400 may be too much. Check out the Harmony price guide at http://www.broadwaymusicco.com/Harmony19.htm . They were "entry level" guitars in the sixties, sold by Sears. They are pretty cool looking.

Date: Wed Nov 28 10:49
Sammy (on the hill):

Hi everybody,WHO CAN HELP ME ABOUT A GUITAR(excuse me I am french...)?A man can sold me an HARMONY guitar (the HOLLYWOOD one) from 1960,about 400$.I really need some advices cause it's a really pretty one ,it seems to sound good but I don't know Harmony guitars very well...Thanks.

Date: Wed Nov 28 10:24
matt (£$£$£$£$£$£$£):

i too have joined the tree. (thankyou for bringing it to my attention naughty ebay person!)

Date: Wed Nov 28 09:08
bean (sand dollars):

This whole money deal intrigues me...who pays Howe's rent?

Date: Wed Nov 28 08:47
james s (thanks to a sky full of carbons I'm afraid...):

Yes, the sandman tree is wonderful. You branches getting the new one yet?? How does it sound?

Date: Wed Nov 28 08:31
tracey (this autumn feels like spring):

This Sandman thing intrigues me. I do not have a burner but if I send empty CDs I can get back ones that are plump full of Sandy goodness? I am so joining this magical tree!

Date: Wed Nov 28 08:26
Stephen M.H. Braitman (braitman@mindspring.com):

Well, I'm glad one of the results of the eBay thing has been the addition of new members. Welcome aboard! By the way, anyone interested in trading Giant Sand/Howe Gelb posters? I've got a few duplicate flyers and I'd love to add to my own collection. Let me know.

Date: Wed Nov 28 08:07
snowbird (frozen avalon):

Another holiday without my children tore me up. The storm is still raging and there's more dead. Max, the golden/yellow tabby cat, dug me out. He has six toes on every foot and a cropped tail due to a combine accident.

Date: Wed Nov 28 08:00
Sean (sean.tracey@btinternet.com):

Howe , I see you're playing Germany , Austria and Greece in the new year , are you also coming to London around that time ? Sean.

Date: Wed Nov 28 06:29
Sean (sean.tracey@btinternet.com):

Thanks Mitch , now I've seen what it's all about I can't wait to get my hands on the stuff . What a great idea too , yes a boo hiss to the ebay people .

Date: Wed Nov 28 06:21
Mitch (oops):

Oh, Sean, just saw that you already found the Sandman Series.

Date: Wed Nov 28 06:19
Mitch (650 ml. 1pt 6 fl. oz):

Hi Sean...well, yes indeed, the distribution system is well available in England, and with a mighty fine source there, i.e. Mr. Mike Brewer. If you haven't yet, go back to the home page of www.giantsand.com and click on the Sandman Series. That should point you in the very right direction. As for the ebay thingy, boo and hiss and a wicked hickey on the name of the person who felt inclined to make a profit from what has been the generous benefication of Howe/Mike/Sand, etc. Boo hiss boo!

Date: Wed Nov 28 04:59
sean (sean.tracey@btinternet.com):

Stephen , found all the Sandman stuff on the web-site and I have joined.

Date: Wed Nov 28 04:37
Sean (sean.tracey@btinternet.com):

Stephen What is the free Sandman distribution system ? Is it available in England ? Thanks Sean.

Date: Tue Nov 27 12:50
Torben (tdh@hansen.mail.dk):

The eBay auction for Sandman Series vol #3 has ended. It says on the items page "because the item is no longer available for sale". The guy who put up the auction in not on the CDR-tree. I checked the latest tree and his name wasn't on it.

Date: Tue Nov 27 10:39
e (m*):

**hey! speaking of cable or lack of cable, I just heard they're using Calexico in the cartoon network--has anyone blessed with cable heard this????

Date: Tue Nov 27 09:20
dear landlord (james s) (please don't put a price on my soul):

Is the Ow Om store taking mail orders again, or should I stop waiting for that to happen and do the dreaded credit card thing?

Date: Tue Nov 27 09:15
mike (sa-wa-ro):

Stephen.... that was me (and another helpfull soul) who put in the big bid.... just so no one actually buys it. I've mailed the seller requesting him (her?) to remove it, and also contacted eBay. I'd also like to know how they got a copy and if they're actually part of the tree!!

Date: Tue Nov 27 08:04
Stephen Braitman (braitman@mindspring.com):

What gives with the Giant Sand eBay action for Sandman #3? Seems very strange that anyone that heavily interested in GS would not know about the free Sandman distribution system. But, I guess some people let their emotions run their pocketbooks. Hey, Howe, got any copies left? Could help finance your next tour of Europe! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1490202174

Date: Tue Nov 27 07:46
like a complete unknown (like a rolling stone):

lynch the landlord!

Date: Tue Nov 27 07:44
Blaine (@pistola-tangent):

We got lost on a roadtrip once in the Dallas/FtWrth nightmare. Finally gave up and stopped at a beat-down liquor store to ask direction (not home). We came out and realized we were right next to the Longhorn Ballroom, huge sign still standing. (Once saw the Clash, while Frank Sinatra was playing at an adjacent venue -- the marquee was quite interesting as JStrummer noted.) Television in the reunion mode some years back was still nice and electrical - playing off each other like old jazz guys. Finally Saw Patti twice in the last three years -- worth the 20 year wait. Levitation.

Date: Tue Nov 27 07:26
em (***):

**Well, morning. Hey, james -my mom opened for the dead kennedys once too-and, oh what else? Just have a wondereful day, everybody, and maybe lighten up on the glue alittle?

Date: Tue Nov 27 07:12
glue blue too true (yes id like to fly):

how does it feel? how does it feel? to be on your own with no direction home

Date: Mon Nov 26 19:15
james s (0987654321):

I never got to see them play, old or young, the Pistols, or the Clash for that matter. I saw the Ramones once, but it was in an old theatre with with everyone sitting down politely. It was in the early nineties and well after their CBGB New York Prime, but despite the tame setting and my own advancing age, it got to me and is in my list of top performances. I saw Patti Smith for the first time only a year ago. It was a free show in a parking lot in Nashville. Never got to see the Pistols though, or the Clash, or the Dead Boys, or Richard Hell, or Televion, or Lou Reed... Oh the sheltered life I've lived, sheltered in a valley surrounded by what we call mountains over here in the East. Not too many first wave punker came around here. East Tennessee wasn't really on the punk map untll the second, less interesting, LA hardcore wave hit. Hell, I opened for the Dead Kennedys one night. Stretched about five songs into an hour set, the slowest longest songs you've ever heard. Jello loved it.

Date: Mon Nov 26 16:20
Mitch (Filthy Lucre Tour; Houston, August 3, 1996):

The Clash docu was done by Don "B.A.D" Letts, and I think it shares the same name as the live CD that was released a while back. Wish someone would do a Buena Vista-type project on the Tucson music scene. Does anyone know if Bill Carter ever got around to doing that? Buy, hey, James, the Pistols flick did give a weird warm fuzzy. Had the same feeling, in a way, when I caught the reformed Pistols a few years back. Strange, strange night. It was at the International Ballroom in Houston, which was a place tettering on the city limits, found in a desolate strip mall, bordering pasture and cattle; once an unpainted-furniture store, I think, finally reduced to walls, concrete, and not much else. I remember the whole building trembled that night with "No future! No future! No future for you!" And there were the Pistols, all older up on the stage, kinda swaggering without fury under red lighting, keeping a careful, still acrimonious distance from one another. They really did seem, well, professional. Ugh! To be honest, I didn't care about the other three--I came to see Johnny--no longer so Rotten, just Mr. John Lydon (hardly slender anymore, or pimply, but he did seem still pasty-faced and bored) with gelled, erractic hair, cerise and yellow--if memory serves. While mosh boys (and they were mostly boys) languished to throw themselves in the dim humidity, Johnny sipped from a Wild Turkey bottle between songs, then he'd shake sweat around inside his shirt: at one point he pointed a finger to the left, pointed it to the right--and spoke into the microphone while all us individuals chanted in unison ("Anarchy! Anarchy!" Anarchy in unison, oh well). The irony didn't seem lost on him--he just addressed the South Texas heat, and the glistening, shirtless teenagers, and the aged punkers in too tight spandex: "Why. Are. You. Here? Someone please explain it to me. What on earth would possess anyone to live here? Bring me f**king cold towels! A word to the wise...move to Alaska!" It was funny. He continually leered by rote and leaned forward with a thousand mile stare. I was mixed in the throng, wet from sweat (most of it belonging to others), anticipating chaos or something dangerous. Of course, it didn't happen. "Remember," Johnny said toward the end of the show, "I'm on your side." So I guess the promise of mindless destruction really dissipated then. But it was an interesting night, felt good to be youngish in a warehouse that would eventually grow empty and get filed into memory. A wee bit of chaos: two guys nearby traded punches against each other's foreheads, then got separated and swept into the mosh pit. As for me, I just sipped my beer and enjoyed the resonance of that bloodless exchange that swirled on the concrete floor, that slammed itself into strangers. Weird night.

Date: Mon Nov 26 15:54
j (woods@d...):

Stainers post soon. Em what's your cat called. Thank tank: Alan,Paul,Jane,Beth,Reg,Linda,Liz,Ken... "wild at heart and weird on top"

Date: Mon Nov 26 15:47
j (woodsman@thewoods):

Thankyou P.Kerr for the Sandage recieved (locals only) Kris rules.

Date: Mon Nov 26 12:59
james s (what!?!?):

I haven't heard about the one on the Clash. That is very exciting.

Date: Mon Nov 26 12:41
Mitch (the f & the f):

Did you ever imagine you'd see/hear Johnny "Rotten" Lydon weep in public? Very good film, I thought. Still waiting to see the one on The Clash--I hear it's quite good as well.

Date: Mon Nov 26 12:22
james s (wow, not a post all day...):

I hope that virus on the email list didn't wipe everybody (or anybody) out! Saw Don't Look Back again last night for the first time in a while. Found it at the library. They also have the Filth & the Fury about the Pistols. That's a good one too, especially if you were young and full of beans in the late seventies... It's odd how such a flick about such a band can give one a warm fuzzy feeling inside.

Date: Sun Nov 25 14:46
Colin (theu2freak@yahoo.com):

And the director(obviously the Kyle MacLachlan charachter) splattering pink paint on his wifes jewlery...we all have those kinda days. Some people left the movie demanding to have thier money back while I thanked the higher power for David Lynch. Oh, and the backwards talking midget from the velvet room...always a plus.

Date: Sun Nov 25 14:08
em (woah!):

***Woah! I never ever find any good used cd's but looky here--what's this? "Sweet Relief": a benefit for Victoria Williams--maybe you all know about this but it flew right over my head--wow! soul asylum, lucinda williams, lou reed, evan dando, the waterboys, giant sand!!! I bought it because it was $2.99 but didn't realize who partook in it until I got home!!! yay!!!:) :) :)Here's to buying anything that's $2.99!!!***

Date: Sun Nov 25 09:20
james s (@%):

I enjoyed Mullholland Drive as well, though it's no Blue Velvet. I aggree with you Mitch. It doesn't have to be the best David Lynch film, it just has to be a David Lynch film. A DL film throws a little spice like no other into the cinamatic mix. The old couple chasing the girl at the end, running under the crack of the door laughing like mad, that alone was worth the price of admission. And the comic bungled assassination scene. "Something stung me bad!" And Colin, Red House Painters, Yes!

Date: Sun Nov 25 06:55
Mitch (aldkfj):

Hey, Colin...Hey, Tom...saw Mullholland Drive a few weeks back...at some point I realized it was better to not try and figure it all out (don't think he wanted the viewer to do that anyway), otherwise I'd get annoyed. So instead I just surfed with it...or, as William Hurt said in The Big Chill, sometimes you've just got to let art flow through you. Regardless, I love the fact that David Lynch does what he does...because, well, like Howe/Giant Sand...there simply isn't anyone else doing it. Good enough for me.

Date: Sun Nov 25 06:14
Tom (it was a baby blue '52 Roadstar, it was a beautiful car):

Mitch, chilly in Tuscon is the equivalent of spring over here

Date: Sun Nov 25 02:33
Colin (theu2freak@yahoo.com):

Hey...soo much going on. Moving to California, weeeeeeeee!!! Mullholland Drive, what a weird freakin flick. Saw Dave Matthews, Daniel Lanois, and Emmylou Harris in Seattle...Dave encored with Ain't It Funny and all I could hear was Rainer as I cryed my way out of the theater. Diggin on some new music, Red House Painters, Guided By Voices, Ken Stringfellow. The dreary grey layer covering Oregon is starting to get to me...

Date: Sat Nov 24 22:13
Mitch (Saturday feeling like Sunday):

Hi all. Nothing really to say, or input. Just thought I'd check in and see if anyone was about. Gettin' kinda chilly here in Tucson. Still recovering from Thursday--major carb overload, sat like zombie for about five hours in front of the TV, then went for a second plate. Oh well...

Date: Sat Nov 24 20:26
irvine welsh (millionaire@trainspotting.com):

here hear there they're now now, i'm a wee bit sair doon thair.

Date: Sat Nov 24 20:24
thanks (toyou@friendofnevercould):

here hear where wear there their

Date: Sat Nov 24 09:50
bean (turntable):

I'd really like to see "Saint Sofie" 12 inches in positive. It'd be much better listening also. Be nice to Robyn...you owe her alot.

Date: Sat Nov 24 07:15
((((friend of))))) (never could):

couldnt agree more

Date: Sat Nov 24 06:22
Adrian (underthesurface@hotmail.com):

You can e-mail me at the above too.

Date: Sat Nov 24 06:21
Adrian (underthesurface):

Hi people, can you help me? I'm writing a freelance feature on the Giant Sand shebang at the Barbican. Does anyone out there have a accurate setlist? I have a rough list but I'm sure there are some omissions....

Date: Sat Nov 24 05:51
chrisztine (...except when soft rains fall...and sleep):

hmmm,giant sand at crossing the borders in amsterdam....that was a good one....very good one, indeed.

Date: Fri Nov 23 22:46
Tommy Gailer ((laughin`and scrollin`)):

Hey Howe and people...the new german Rolling Stone edition (dec.) did a halfass-critic on "Lull some piano" and a very good one on your Crossing The Border Fest. in Amsterdam.!!!!Now the funny point: in lack of photos, showin`Howe on stage, they took one from the giant sand website!!! Exactly the one that i shot in Nuernberg (Hirsch) 2000, October-Tour.The "big" Rolling Stone isn`t able to take an actual photo from the festival!!!Now the question: can i sue these bastards (just as a revenge for frequently disliking Howe)or should i give them the nr. from Howe`s bankaccount??? Just kiddin`....but it`s funny, `cause they could have mentioned my name. I`ll write them, and make fun about them.

Date: Fri Nov 23 16:52
Test (!!!):

Just a voice check...1...2...3

Date: Fri Nov 23 15:43
never could (((keep.my.gob.shut))):

Red breast robin(robyn)? Sorry to disignore the freak, just wish it would stop fukeeing up my downtime. In the words of the seagull in 'watership down'... 'pissssss offfffff' Yours, disgruntled, UK.

Date: Fri Nov 23 14:28
Mitch (gato):

Laurent, nicely nicely done.

Date: Fri Nov 23 12:59
Blaine (@workon Fri):

Nice work Laurent

Date: Fri Nov 23 10:20
rosco (bowlingball canon):

Is it going to get really ugly in here again? My photo is still a negative and dickhead Howe hasn't paid me.

Date: Fri Nov 23 09:16
james s (paralyzed...flat on my back... history is the reason...I'm all washed up):

Just wanted to say that it really sucks that I'm having to WORK today. I hope a few of you in the US of A get a four day weekend.

Date: Fri Nov 23 04:30
glue sniffer ages 3 and up (the non toxic kinda love):

well i left my home in sweet alabam and moved all the way to peterborupogh. happy holiday to all yo american people ! im not shure when it was but hope it was a good holiday. nice to see this little village of thought exepting me so welcoming thank you for your concern. 16 horsepower, love em VIctory chesnutt love him reid paley love him. gang of four. the green flame of burning plastic. thats the best. live long. dont get blocked. keep the red eyes rolling

Date: Fri Nov 23 04:24
pete (pete.robuluis@heitie.com):

love the music love you come to greenland soon

Date: Fri Nov 23 03:45
di (he he hehehhehehhehe he he HE he HE HEHE hehehe he):

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Date: Thu Nov 22 16:26
poot (2 headed boy):

I'd agree with M. Hulot as top choice, Mitch. I probably watch Playtime more; still trying to catch everything. That one scene where Hulot is overlooking the cubicle maze is probably on of my favorite visuals in any of his films. In other movie news, Happy birthday to Terry Gilliam. And happy thanksgiving to any of you who choose to thank & give. -Pooter

Date: Thu Nov 22 15:27
peter s. (and a fine bottle of wine):

...that goes well with it... cheers!

Date: Thu Nov 22 15:22
peter s. (sandman series vol. 5):

well, to howe, john, joe and everybody else involved in this new release: thanks for this surprising sticky, gluey recording that arrived right in time with the first snow on our rooftop. what a way to warm up the day...

Date: Thu Nov 22 15:03
d (eh?):

Just thought Id ask again! may be it will be seen now!

Date: Thu Nov 22 15:02
d (eh?):

Hey Gelb, are u awake? :) is there anything in the pipeline (not the wmbr radio programme) for a beyond nashville reacjing the shores of Ireland at all???

Date: Thu Nov 22 15:02
d (eh?):

Hey Gelb, are u awake? :) is there anything in the pipeline (not the wmbr radio programme) for a beyond nashville reacjing the shores of Ireland at all???

Date: Thu Nov 22 15:02
d (eh?):

Hey Gelb, are u awake? :) is there anything in the pipeline (not the wmbr radio programme) for a beyond nashville reacjing the shores of Ireland at all???

Date: Thu Nov 22 15:02
d (eh?):

Hey Gelb, are u awake? :) is there anything in the pipeline (not the wmbr radio programme) for a beyond nashville reacjing the shores of Ireland at all???

Date: Thu Nov 22 15:02
d (eh?):

Hey Gelb, are u awake? :) is there anything in the pipeline (not the wmbr radio programme) for a beyond nashville reacjing the shores of Ireland at all???

Date: Thu Nov 22 12:16
james s (beat on the brat beat on the brat beat on the brat with a baseball bat o yeah o yeah...):

Yeah, Sniffer, I wasn't putting down the Ramones, though I guess I am in, or about to be in, the slipper set (I bought Rocket to Russia when it was new) and my huffing days are far behind me (though I get a strange buzz from the mildew remover I use in my bathroom). Whether you're basting your brains or basting a bird, make it a fine day, Sniffer and all.

Date: Thu Nov 22 11:05
h)o(w)e(: (poeticly stirred, not fried):

did you ever hear the one about the sticky snuffer who might have died for just 3 minutes and saw a light at the end of a tunnel, ecstatic and happy at last, until realising said tunnel was smaller then the size of said head. in other words...have a hoopla hither in this raspy realm of crispy thanxgettingness and gladbagging alike, traditional or otherwise, enjoy the fresh scrub of astro-comet cleansing and be happy for the moment....regardless. regardful, howe.

Date: Thu Nov 22 08:40
glu (high ):

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Date: Thu Nov 22 08:31
glue sniffer (high way to hell):

well hello ya all. met some preeeetentius little nobodies last night luckly my solevnt cloud liffted me above the world of pain and other silly words we all lament over. plith is the best word to descibe my world veiw. on another note to do with ramones giant sand used to be just like the ramones untill the slipper brigade moved over and got old. lets have feedback meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww asdposdijadfasdfn;abhf;uiwehfb;waiugb;qiwuregb;iuregb. live for eever realy it should of been a double album and a gate fold sleve with loads of studio photographs but the whole point of the band was to blow away the 70's bullshit . almost but cant quite rember. Americans all over the world eating culture like pac man and im here trying to figure out thhe big words. its anever ending story. back to the fumes

Date: Thu Nov 22 04:46
Mitch (indeed):

Poot, that would be to the affirmative. I think Monsieur Hulot's Holiday is my fave of the trilogy, but I like them all, really.

Date: Wed Nov 21 23:15
poot (M. Hulot's Holiday):

Hey Mitch, Are you a Tati fan?

Date: Wed Nov 21 20:03
em (mmmmmm):

**Barbara Walters just said "gobble gobble." And the wee kitty? not yet baptized and in-between names--just give it another week--promise--so long!:)***

Date: Wed Nov 21 18:05
tom (all i do is put a seashell to my ear):

Thank you Mitch, and greetings to all you thanksgiving people across the atlantic, thank some of yours from me, give them Hats.

Date: Wed Nov 21 14:04
Erik (johnson_erik@msn.com):

Try your local library for the "fishing with john" series. It worked for me. Also on a side note, saw sparklehorse tear it up here last week. What an amazing show!! Check em out when they come to your town. They did a great rendition of GbV's "Smothered in Hugs." Have a safe and happy thanksgiving everyone.

Date: Wed Nov 21 13:45
Mitch (mon oncle):

Tom, the "Fishing With John" series is available on DVD (the entire series on one disc) from The Criterion Collection, perhaps video too. For the best price you might want to try www.dvdpricesearch.com or www.alldirect.com. I'll bone up on my Dutch.

Date: Wed Nov 21 13:08
james s (john dillinger):

yo, Mike, you'd better get a user id on glue sniffer and get a paramedic out to him/her quick! Happy thanksgiving all, and give some thanks, will ya? Pull out your William Burroughs CD and listen to the thanksgiving poem for John Dillinger and give a toast and such...

Date: Wed Nov 21 12:45
############################ ({{{{{{}}}}}}):

glue. stomach. cement. high bloodpressure. no motion. november, i guess.

Date: Wed Nov 21 12:09
Tom (coffee and cigarettes , man , that's the combination):

Re : Mitch. Dissertation lies gathering dust in 1 or 2 libraries over here, and unless you speak or read Dutch, i'm afraid it's not going to be very clear to you what I've written. Thanks for being interested, anyhow. Does anyone know where to order 'Fishing with John' ? And yes, e(m) has the kitten been baptised yet ??

Date: Wed Nov 21 11:37
patti (tucson):

Laurent....thanks for the concert photo's it was almost like being there. Very cool. Glue sniffer what are you thinking? Get a hold of yourself. Happy stuffing yourself day to all. Emme, what did you name your cat? I missed it if you posted it. Gobble gobble. Love to all, Patti

Date: Wed Nov 21 11:25
e (m*):

******Bravo, Laurent!!! beautiful!

Date: Wed Nov 21 10:58
howe (ow):

i suppose the holidays can always get a little sticky

Date: Wed Nov 21 09:31
james s (i and i):

thanks Laurent for the post; I was beginning to think this was a Ramones page rather than a Giant Sand page, and thanks for the address for the pix as well.

Date: Wed Nov 21 08:57
laurent orseau (lorseau@free.fr):

hello! just a quick note to tell you that i printed the pictures i took at the barbican and they are available at the address http://lorseau.free.fr/pzique/concert/barbican/. i hope you'll like them -- laurent

Date: Wed Nov 21 08:43
glue (live forever):

smokings just as bad

Date: Wed Nov 21 08:38
em (***):

Happy thanksgiving, you wacky kids, you!!! I'm off:) stay safe and happy(and, you know, eat turkey or whatever)--make music, you!!!***

Date: Wed Nov 21 08:31
glue man (sniffin the rocks):

that warm feeling, cant remeber if i am here or there any pauses in phone conversations and i forget who im talking to and weather im dialing hanging up. i have fried my brain. i love you all so little

Date: Wed Nov 21 08:28
dan the photograspher (danthephotographer@hotmail.com):

would love to see photos swap for chesnutt. saw medication last night realy heavy not that any of you old men with pipes would enjoy. the singer was withfeild crane from ugly kid joe and the guitarist was logan mader from machine head the drummer was from soul fly. verry good verry loud ROCK AND ROLL. LIKE things used to be. i dont BElive you

Date: Wed Nov 21 08:28
robatoid (countdown):

An astroid? December 23rd, 2012? We are going to need everyone for this one. We love you MOTHER EARTH. Thank you President Bush for getting us through this. Thank you President Clinton and Vice President Gore for the internet in our beautiful libraries. Most of all Thank you Abraham Lincoln for setting us free. GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Date: Wed Nov 21 08:25
james s (pod boy from earth):

I'll bet, Free Man. Round and round and upside down and good bye cruel mind... of course you might want a mind later on down the road...

Date: Wed Nov 21 08:15
free man (super glue):

sniffin makes the world go round

Date: Wed Nov 21 07:41
di (...money for nothin' and the chicks for free...):

that's what i call a proper society !!

Date: Wed Nov 21 06:48
di (hello everybody):

well, i guess it won't be long till the Screami' J. Hawkins documentary will be released on video and dvd; they say the dvd version will have extra stuff - tom, the "coffe and cigarettes" movie sounds really great, can't wait to see Iggy through Jarmusch eyes!.....and, thanks e(m)!

Date: Wed Nov 21 04:20
Mitch (still a wee hack and gruffle):

Weird, how'd you know, Howe? Yah, today my head is clearer and I'm not quite as hacky...though I still feel a bit wobbly...unless I'm sitting firmly in front of the computer where I seem to spend a vast majority of time these days!!! Still, I'm starting to gather up a hankering for Thursday feasting...gonna pack on some weight, I hope, for all I've lost the last week or so of sickness (I'm looking fearfully like Prada model, and not in a good way). Anyway, the big crack up of Tom Waits sticking the fish in his pants is a hoot. Another one is in the double Dennis Hopper fishing epidsode, where, after spending so much time with John Lurie, he ceases to be responsive. But what gets me the most is the narrator's absolutely unconnected comments to what is being seen...like John L. and Matt Dillon on horseback as the V.O. goes, "I like sandwiches," or something of that ilk. For a while there I was ordering stuff from Lurie's www.strangeandbeautifulmusic.com sight, but now it's sorta become defunct...though some general info is still there. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...okay, an early happy Turkey day for all here in the states, and happy happy everything for those Sandies elsewhere. PS: Tom, is your dissertation (just can't spell it, sorry) available anywhere? I'd love to read it.

Date: Wed Nov 21 02:03
tom (river of men, river of men,....):

The 'Fishing with John' serie has been totally unavailable over here in Europe. I've been searching for it, but was just able to find the soundtrack. Maybe some of you could help me out here ??? And Mitch, there's another short film about 'Coffee and cigarettes' Jarmusch made, with Tom Waits and Iggy Pop, even funnier than the one you saw with Benigni and Wright.

Date: Tue Nov 20 23:12
j (woodsman/thanks):

Serious thanks to p.kerr for the kindly given and eagerly awaited cd(s). How goes it Stainers? P.S. Dropped D can be a very fine tuning drunk after a nightshift.

Date: Tue Nov 20 22:40
howe (+_-):

hey mitch..you sound better....not as congested....and yeah i saw that whole dang 'fishing with john' series....man.......big crack up...especially tom waits putting the fish down his pants and truly wonderin what the hell john had got him talked into during the long walk home.....and a bigsadnote noting tommy flannigan has left us here....many years ago i stumbled alone into a little club in new york city ...near washington square i think...and there he was caressin' piano with red on upright bass. used to listen to him quite a bit in the early days.....and ahmad jamal, mccoy tyner..also having had the pleasure of stumbling uponlive giggery on occasion...but ol tommy flannigan is a sad sad loss.

Date: Tue Nov 20 17:25
Mitch (further):

Just remembered The Fishing with John episode where Jarmusch and John Lurie go hunting for shark. High art in the lowest possible form.

Date: Tue Nov 20 17:23
Mitch (59xl):

That's one of my favorite scenes, too. Just cracks me up. We went through a Jarmusch festival here a few weeks ago, sticking with the first four. The other night there was an SNL repeat that had a Jarmusch short film with Steven Wright and Roberto B. in it, very funny. Did your dissertation (sp-?) cover odd bits from his work, like the Big Audio Dynamite videos he'd made? Regardless, sounds like a fun choice of a subject.

Date: Tue Nov 20 16:56
Tom ((as always it all comes together)):

re : Mitch. Very weird you mentioned Screamin' Jays appearance in Mystery Train, as I saw the movie for the n-th time yesterday night, with a friend who never saw any Jarmusch before. I surely did, 'cause I wrote my dissertation on 'The Cinema of Jim Jarmusch'. The scene with the Japanese 'exotic fruit' on the hotel counter still makes me laugh out loud, very very loud. Have a sweet day, all of you.

Date: Tue Nov 20 13:58
Mitch (the business of film):

Geoff, you're in Santa Fe, right? If so, have you had any contact with a film/video distribution company there called Zia, I believe? They've worked with my father on some of his projects, and they might be someone you could talk with about picking up the rest of production/post-production costs. If you want, drop me an email about it: fpunk@yahoo.com.

Date: Tue Nov 20 12:56
jms (s):

sounds interesting, Geoff. Good luck on getting it finished and out. Any chance of a Gelb or GS appearance at SXSW as well??? questions questions!

Date: Tue Nov 20 12:50
matt (remember remember the 3rd of November):

or: is there anything in the pipeline such as a live cd or video from the Barbican gig. it was truely special, thankyou Howe.

Date: Tue Nov 20 12:01
d (fdggsfdgf):

Hey Gelb, are u awake? :) is there anything in the pipeline (not the wmbr radio programme) for a beyond nashville reacjing the shores of Ireland at all???

Date: Tue Nov 20 11:41
geoff (re:flicks):

James, you remember correctly. It is an animated film with voices of Howe Gelb, Victoria Williams, Richard Buckner, as well as some other very talented musicians (called Trip To Roswell). Unfortunately, I am not a very well funded studio and am still raising the money to finish it--so it's likely to be a while before it is available in any wide release--or actually finished for that matter. If you are around Austin, Texas though, I may try to screen a part of what's done so far at SXSW this year. Slightly related, I made another film that Friends of Dean Martinez (Bill Elm) did the soundtrack for (called Out of Bounds). Rather than ramble here, if you are interested in more info, I am slowly updating the website with more info on both of these projects at www.swervepictures.com ps--Howe, my house took on a lot of water in last week's flooding, Unsunglum makes a nice soundtrack while shop vacuuming the water out...I recommend it highly--unsunglum, not the flooding. Thanks.

Date: Tue Nov 20 09:36
e (m***):

******morning over there. I've got a quick minute until I am screamed at--D! here's the thingy about POEtry: "A surreal and visually ravishing excursion into the mind of America's most otherworldly writer, mixing Reed's gritty hard-rock, Wilson's(Robert Wilson, that is) hallucinatory stage tableaux, and Poe's nightmarish stories and poems." It's at BAM in Brooklyn, but I've also heard some great things about the soundtrack with the likes of David Bowie and Steve Buscemi and others--and, cue the screaming, and I'm off!:)

Date: Tue Nov 20 09:21
Tommy Gailer ((scrollin`and mournin`)):

Just read in the paper, that Tommy Flanagan (71) died these days :-(

Date: Tue Nov 20 09:05
robyn (wham bam thank you jam):

The last band I photographed was "Dead Letter Office" at a music festival in Perley,MN (Labor Day 2001.) The lead singer was from Canada and exceptionally cool. They painted their bodies and we danced up a storm. Anyone want to see photographs?

Date: Tue Nov 20 08:32
james s (Re:flicks):

Anyone seen any of the Jacob Young documentaries -Dancing Outlaw, the Amazing Doloras...? Kind of exploitative, but funny and interesting nevertheless. And didn't I see something about an animated flick that Howe, Richard Buckner and Victoria Williams did the voices on???

Date: Tue Nov 20 07:12
Blaine (randomshots@work):

John -- have you seen Kristofferson in Lone Star(john Sayles), he's a not bad badass in that one. Tried watching the Winders/Bono writ Million $Hotel last night. Amanda Plummer was cool, but I'll need to see the thing again. Struck me as too quirky/ironic and cool for cool's sake. Anyone see Smoke Signals from a few years back? Paul, we have Lucinda coming to MKE at the Potawotami Casino for a reasonable $25, shes never been here before. Should be an interesting country when the Natives get it back.

Date: Tue Nov 20 05:17
dan (stop being silly):

fish and chips. curry and a rice. wake up kassandra who is foaming with lice. more ryhmes to follow though few could follow that, i must be going cause i am a drunk prat. big up dylan dwiddly dum dwiidly dee. is his winston watson circa mtv unplugged your winston watson circa valley of rain/ bllad thin man line art? how much id milk

Date: Tue Nov 20 05:13
dan (dum de diu):

vendi venci verdi. verdict liar. motivation - hellium nation. strawbery blue ate all that was good now were left with only that she couldnt chew.

Date: Tue Nov 20 03:05
Mitch (brother's keeper):

Hey, Di, sounds like my kinda documentary. One of the highlights of Mystery Train (the movie, not the song or book) was Screamin' J's cameo (have you ever heard his version of Paul McCartney's "Monkberry Moon Delight"?). Forgive me for moving away from music documentaries...but gotta share four others that I thought were great for just the sheer wonder/weirdness of them: "Grey Gardens" by the Maysles brothers, Wim Wender's "Tokyo-Ga", Chris Marker's "Sans Soleil" (more a visual essay, I guess), and "The Eyes of Tammy Faye" (need I say more?). Lastly, there's a nice overview of Lou Reed done by PBS' American Masters series...doesn't go as far as POEtry though.

Date: Tue Nov 20 01:07
di (lou reed + edger allen poe ??????):

hi e(m), could you give me some more informations about this "POEtry" ?

Date: Tue Nov 20 00:58
di (mentioning documentaries, here's a good one ):

" Screamin' J. Hawkins-i put a spell on me " . Nikos Triandafyllidis' document.-movie about the unforgettable Screamin' j. , almost two years after his so sudden death. The film gathers great stuff about his life and music and has rare material from his first recordings and shows. With a satisfying dose of a wonderful, so full of energy Scr.j. in athens, where he talks and jokes about life, music and women and gives what turned out to be his last great concert -few months later, he passes away. About Scr.j. also speak Bo Diddley, Eric Burton, Arthur Brown, Jim Jarmusch, Diamanda Galas, Peter Zaremba, Rudy Protrudi. It's like a travelogue along with Screamin' j.; the fast tempo, the good interchange of present and past, the excellent music and the familiarity that characterizes the entire work, rather compose a movie than a documentary - if you like Screamin'j., try to find it, it's really worth seing.

Date: Tue Nov 20 00:20
jesus (jruizb@nexo.es):

last yesterday i had the oportunity to see mr. ward at barcelona's concert. thanks howe for discover me this amazing musician. it was another dream...

Date: Mon Nov 19 16:27
paul Kerr (p.kerr@ntlworld.com):

Bit late on this but many thanks to Jim for the Howe/John Parrish show on the ftp server. It sounds great. I just got hold of a wave editor and have spent the last two nights splitting the show into seperate tracks. previously I've had to listen to 60 odd minute tracks with no way to find favourites. Anyway, I reckon some people don't have the bandwith or time(= money) to download this so if it's alright with all concerned I can send a copy to the first 3 on this list from the UK who contact me (keeping it to the UK to reduce postal costs and because our ISPs are not what those in the states are). No trades, this is a free offer. Re: Dylan's documentary, it is a must to see, I'd also recommend Neuwirth's albums. Re: Link Wray, saw him around 2 years ago, came out and played Rumble, held his guitar out and let those at the front whack the strings, kind of added to the tune. Kris Kristofferson is a god when he sings and doesn't act. No meteors here, just rain. Paul

Date: Mon Nov 19 13:44
james (yeah, well):

I too am not above envy and I'd love to have your access to Sand shows, Mitch, assuming that they give the locals a show now and then. Yes John, that price sucks! During the year before Car Wheels came out, I was seeing her play pretty regularly in the clubs with covers from 5 to 10 dollars. I guess that's been a while back. Doesn't seem that long ago.

Date: Mon Nov 19 13:35
Mitch (rgke):

Hi, James, thanks for The High Lonesome suggestion. Tomorrow is two-for-one night at Casa Video, so I'm hoping to round both yours and Blaine's suggestions up. Lucky you seeing Lucinda last night! I'm not above envy, especially on that one!

Date: Mon Nov 19 13:05
john (who being a guy, looks rightwards):

Lucinda in clubs anymore? thought about catchin her in West Palm Bch a month or so ago but couldn't go the $65 ticket price!

Date: Mon Nov 19 11:46
and (i don't have cable either, nor):

a tv for that matter. Saw that on the website and it just...didn't sit right...

Date: Mon Nov 19 11:42
james s (yep):

Ryman auditorium, Nashville. The days of seeing her in the small clubs around here I suppose are over, but it was nice seeing her on that big stage. She did a good Hank cover (...to melt your cold cold heart) in honor of some of the others who have performed on that stage in the past... Her dad was there too, which I thought was pretty cool... My only complaint is that she didn't play ANYTHING from Sweet Old World. Good show, however. Had Bo Ramsey in the band...

Date: Mon Nov 19 11:24
Blaine (@work):

.. back to the Dylan Neuwirth connection... there is a kinda rough but interesting dub circulating of a rainy Rolling Thunder gig w/Mick Ronson, T-Bone&the Alphas, Baez, Ramblin Jack etc. Worth checking just to see/hear Dylan slide around on a map-body National electic.

Date: Mon Nov 19 11:18
howe (don't have cable):

hey james s. where exactly did lucinda play last night ??? nashville ???

Date: Mon Nov 19 10:03
whoops (james):

sorry for the double post; I didn't think the first attempt went through.

Date: Mon Nov 19 09:57
james s (new foreign policy according to a report on CNN, pave the way for Mtv (in the middle east) and let Mtv pave the way for everything else. Rock music and youth culture now a tool for the government, and no doubt, marketplace.):

Mitch, if you haven't seen it, you should find a copy (available on dvd now) of High Lonesome: The Story of Bluegrass Music. It's not exactly a bio of Monroe, but it is mostly about Monroe and his influence, with Monroe doing a lot of the talking himself, lots of great footage, old and not so old, mostly of Monroe but also of others (Mac Wiseman, Jimmy Martin, Stanleys, Osbourne Bros, etc). It's a beautifully done flick. I wish he were still traveling around and playing. I got to see Bill play at a little smalltown festival in East Tennessee a few years before died. One of those high points in life. Got to see Lucinda Williams play last night. That was pretty darn good too. Emmy Lou Harris got lifted up to the stage to join her in a long encore.

Date: Mon Nov 19 09:54
james s (987654321):

Mitch, if you haven't seen it, you should find a copy (available on dvd now) of High Lonesome: The Story of Bluegrass Music. It's not exactly a bio of Monroe, but it is mostly about Monroe and his influence, with Monroe doing a lot of the talking himself, lots of great footage, old and not so old, mostly of Monroe but also of others (Mac Wiseman, Jimmy Martin, Stanleys, Osbourne Bros, etc). It's a beautifully done flick. I wish he were still traveling around and playing. I got to see Bill play at a little smalltown festival in East Tennessee a few years before died. One of those high points in life. Got to see Lucinda Williams play last night. That was pretty darn good too. Emmy Lou Harris got lifted up to the stage to join her in a long encore.

Date: Mon Nov 19 08:17
emm (The Cat Lady):

********************************************************************************Alright, Good morning and it's a monday. Feels like i'm glued to the floor on mondays..yuck. Hoopla Howe, yeah yeah I'll hug my parents--if you insist. everybody, have a wonderful day and don't get yourselves all baloon-like no matter how much you hate mondays:)a guy in my old high school was called "bobby the globby"...

Date: Mon Nov 19 08:03
bird (avalon):

Robyn forgot to say her brother RESTORED the model A Woody.

Date: Mon Nov 19 07:14
Emanuele (()):

That means he moved you "......(......)". There's no in-between and that's what makes him great!

Date: Mon Nov 19 05:45
....... (......):

......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................i hate bob dylan

Date: Sun Nov 18 20:15
Mitch (shoes, pts. 1 & 2):

Thanks for that, Howe. The real nasty, rough bit has passed, though for about four days there I was probably lookin' a lot like a copy of a copy of a copy of...me! Maybe I wasn't green in color or balloonish, but man did I feel like it.

Date: Sun Nov 18 19:56
howe (hey there illin mitch):

yep. bob's about to plop a glob there at the end of it. he has been so speedy-tongue-buzzed for the entire ride and lennon keeps looking away a bit out the window and such delivering these cruel-to-be-kind one liners. and the ride seems to go on and on and on....apparently the car is in london where all the city roads are way too twisty-turny ...and by the end of the footage bob is about to revisit his lunch....ohhhhoohhhohoh ...its just makes this old world a more fantastic place. feel better mitch....and give your folks a hug em.

Date: Sun Nov 18 19:02
Chris (G):

Vermont??? Well why didn't you say so, silly???? I happen to live in florida!!! What are the odds?

Date: Sun Nov 18 18:47
poot (...sing ninety-nine & ninety...):

Sure, come on over chris (g). It's "FILM" by Sammy Beckett startin' things off, & then Don't Look Back to close off the evening. Just a short trip to Vermont. And B.Y.O.B. -Poot

Date: Sun Nov 18 18:38
Chris (G):

Am I invited, Poot? I can bring a lovely casserole-my mom's the best cook around, folks.

Date: Sun Nov 18 18:25
poot (/...=|=...\):

Thanks Mitch, that's good to know in case I need to own it. I've got a rented vhs copy in my hand right now, so if anyone wants to come over and watch... That Dylan-Lennon scene sounds great. I found a transcript of of it, but I'm sure it's not the same as watching/hearing it. Here it is... http://rmb.simplenet.com/public/files/bbs/etd.html love, poot

Date: Sun Nov 18 18:17
emm (e):

****************************************************************************** Uh-oh, Mitch--don't fall over there--So, Howe and such, Bob isn't naturally green??? I was sorta giddy over the idea of a green Bob Dylan--tee hee--man oh man do I wanna see that--As of right now it shal be my life's purpose--I will travel far and wide, bow down to no man, bend for nothing--I WILL SEE THE SPACE ALIEN BOB DYLAN TAPE---Don't matter how long it takes me--I've got time..Did I say I was 17?? my mind's gone blank--but I am and yeah my parents are/were music people who met in bands when they were pretty close to my age now...scary. And I was a poster baby for many-a post punk bands in denver. So there it is, my life story:) And now the man who wasn't there would be beaconing me(I hope)--- hehe-I saw the end of snl last night with billy bob and his fenced-in area--did anyone else? twas wonderful.:)

Date: Sun Nov 18 18:07
Mithc (fgf):

Poot, if you can find the DVD of "Don't Look Back" (Dylan, not Sutherland), it's loaded with some nice extras...five original, uncut audio performances...commentary from D.A. Pennebaker and Bob Neuwirth...never-before-seen version of Subterranean Homesick Blues cue card scene...original theatrical trailer...so there ya go.

Date: Sun Nov 18 18:04
Mitch (alien bob):

Am I mistaken, or does space alien Bob verge on sickness at the end of the elusive scene? On the audio I have he sounds a bit naucous toward the conclusion, then he says something like, "Oh man, I don't feel so good..." and Lennon begins to laugh.

Date: Sun Nov 18 18:01
Mitch (one hand clapping):

I second that on the Coens' latest. Two big toes up...way up!

Date: Sun Nov 18 17:57
howe (on again):

oh and um em, the man who wasn't there is ridiculouslytasty.

Date: Sun Nov 18 17:56
howe (inside a perfect sunday):

em !!!...that is exactly right!!! bob did look like a greenish space alien with a baloon-like head and tiny limbs floating about and ....John was coiling in the corner...how could you possibly know that let alone even want to know about that...you are 17 right ???...i want to know who your parents are....i want to see their record collection . well, anyway, the reason bob looks like that is because the copies that are available of the scene are all a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy (ad nausium). and the effect is exactly how em described it......which only added to the dream like quality of it all. its almost too much to take...and come to think of it, the fellow who was kind enough to turn me on to it just did an interview with the man himself in the current rolling stone. that feller had an amazing libarary of such and such.

Date: Sun Nov 18 16:13
m (**):

well that's awful sweet:)

Date: Sun Nov 18 16:09
Mitch (document eating):

It's true, the scene with Dylan & Lennon is way elusive, but the audio of that scene has circulated around for a while on various bootlegs. It's quite funny, and kinda fly-on-the-wall-ish for the listener. Dylan sounds very tipsy, and Lennon seems bemused throughout. They chat about Johnny Cash, and Dylan, referring to Mama Cass, says, "Come on, John, admit it...you like the fat chick. Everyone likes the fat chick."

Date: Sun Nov 18 15:33
e (mm):

*********Oh, my Howe--I'm afraid you are right about the deleted Bob/jOhn scene--It's no where to be found--and everything I hear about it intrigues me all the more--I read something that said Bob looked like a greenish space alien with a baloon-like head and tiny limbs floating about and that John was coiling in the corner--man oh man i wanna see it..D, actually we ended up seeing a friend's play but mark my words I shal see The man who wasn't there:)also has anyone heard about POEtry?? The Lou Reed musical about the life of edger allen poe?? looks quite cool.

Date: Sun Nov 18 12:23
poot (\/daddy sang bass\/):

Thanks Howe, just what I was hopin' to hear. Off I go!

Date: Sun Nov 18 11:58
di (.......):

yeah, the sutherland movie is soooo great ! hm... i wonder if i'll find the dylan documentary - sounds really cool...hey e(m), did you get to see the coen movie ???

Date: Sun Nov 18 11:05
howe (one more thing):

not to be confused with "don't look now"......but equally as memorable, except this one stars donald sutherland and still makes venice a scary place to visit. shot around 1972. ok. go get em.

Date: Sun Nov 18 11:01
howe (don't look back):

the dylan movie is a must. rent it now. i met the filmmaker once, pennybaker. quite a fellow....and still making em. the wonerful thing about the dylan flick is the handheldness of it all, the lush black + whitery, and the amazing-when-you-think-about-it capture of all the sound. there's a hearty scene where dylan is verbaly sparing with the "science student" backstage. that same fellow went on to start a record company or two, one of which was the one that originally releaed 'glum'. very interesting to see him stay in the ring with dylan for said spar. then one time i ended up doing a solo tour with bobby neuwirth. the same bobby kris kristofferson mentions in the begining of his song "the pilgrim(chapter 33)" and the one who was good buddies with janis joplin. in this film he is dylan's right hand man. a painter, whom bob aked to pease come along and handle things. they make a fine pair. anyway, you have to see it. it'll give you a good sense of the man and the times. the follow up was in color sadly, "eat the document". and was too controlled by bob himsef i hear. i have been privy to the deleted scene where a very high bob is sitting in the back seat of car with a very ascerbic john lennon. the result is sad and funny, but mostly surreal. that you will probably never be able to find. sigh.

Date: Sun Nov 18 10:32
poot (speaking of documentaries...):

Has anyone out there seen that Dylan documentary, "Don't Look Back"? Is it worth tracking down? It's not at the local video store, so a slight trip is involved. Love, Poot (matt)

Date: Sun Nov 18 10:04
d (raleighdave@hotmail.com):

Howe, I was speaking to Robert Fisher last night in Limerick, Ireland, he was saying how well the 'beyond nashville tour' went and how special it is to have a concert like that so that everyone can get together like an old family and play some grat music. more power to you howe and everyone else involved. Any chance or thought's about doing sonething like 'beyond nashville' in Ireland at all?? that would be cool. take it easy, d.

Date: Sun Nov 18 09:54
Blaine (@work):

Mitch, it might be called The Father of Bluegrass. Good luck w/ yr bug. Try the Velvets live 1969 -- that'll cure anything.

Date: Sun Nov 18 07:41
Robyn (Cormorant,MN):

My Dad gave me a ride in the kit fox plane he built, my brother gave me a ride in his model A woody and my other brother let me ride the horse he raised. Men, they all lectured me...you can guess about what. I missed the light show last night but heard it was spectacular here: sometimes six or seven at once...with long glowing tails. It's overcast now and the wind is picking up.

Date: Sun Nov 18 03:53
Mitch (My hanky for Mike):

Thanks, Mike!!! All else I can say is echinacea echinacea! Thera-flued Cullin

Date: Sun Nov 18 03:21
mike (not at home and also coming down with a cold.....atchoo):

(sniff) Mitch....the track is a Kevin Salem remix of 'Shiver', with Jason from Grandaddy doing the backing vocals....(atchoo!!)

Date: Sat Nov 17 18:01
Mitch (wee question):

Keep meaning to ask...could Mike B. or someone tell me what Giant Sand track appears on the new Loose compilation (Loose 3)? It might have been posted here already, but I can't seem to find out the specifics. Much appreciated in advance.

Date: Sat Nov 17 17:56
Mitch (hack wheeze):

Blaine, do you know the name of the Bill Monroe documentary? I'd like to see it. I take it the public library you got it from isn't in Tucson, right? Seems I'm gonna miss the big meteor show due to lingering flu and respiratory evils, so a good docu would be good medicine.

Date: Sat Nov 17 16:18
Robyn (darkroom):

Hey Howe, Can I send some of my photos in here? Ones of you and you know them.....

Date: Sat Nov 17 09:27
howe ()()()()()()()()(::o::)()()()()()()()():

electricity means polarity is involved. to be acoustic and then electric is to be bi-polar. volume adds celebration.

Date: Sat Nov 17 07:50
Blaine (gearheading@workon Sat):

I like the idea of "...and Crazy Horse" as a disclaimer -- "this might get loud and will prob go on for a while". Howe's comment on Monrooo further proves what a wizard the old man was. (there is a cool Monroe documentary out there with John Hartford and Ricky Skaggs guiding the interviews -- I got it from the local public library.) Some fave ancient distortions around my house include a guy named Pat Hare on some old James Cotton songs and plenty of Hubert Sumlin on Howlin Wolf's music, and lest we forget Paul Burlison on Train Kept a Rollin, and the live Stones albs. Still, Link Wray retains an exalted status. My exp is that playing through smaller, older, funky amps with real character might lend you some nice distorto-tone. Best luck w/boxes is a Tube Driver (or most anything with a real glowing vacuum-packed heart). There was a comment Howe made in an article about using an A/B switch for one of the GS albs, whereby he'd swap back and forth acoustic to electric on the fly-- did I read that right?. I'd been trying this for years and can't quite harness the tidal wave, but in limited dosage popping an acoustic into an amp and echoplex and octave wakes up the sleepers in the house -- some songs' personality just happens that way. ...and Thanks Mr. Archivist for the new sounds. (sorry for the blabber -- the tea and donuts are kicking in.)

Date: Sat Nov 17 06:43
Tom ((yesssssssss)):

Gracias, Mr. Blackwood

Date: Sat Nov 17 02:30
Mitch (distorted):

Ah, Mike...right on about the Pete solo in that early Who track. Another great bit of guitar oddness is in Marty Robbins' "Don't Worry". My father had that LP and it just changed my life...talk about using guitar electics (electrics, that is) is a slight but effective way. Makes me wanna say yum.

Date: Sat Nov 17 02:28
Mitch (amihsim):

Jim Jim Jim! You're on a roll!!! Don't stop now! Thanks thanks!

Date: Sat Nov 17 02:15
archivist (archive@giantsand.com):

Just added the KXCI radio show from 4-16-01 w/Howe Gelb + John Parish to the FTP server - to get to it click on the KXCI Giant Sand page link on the main GS page. Follow down to the link for the show on 4-16-01 and click on the download link on the bottom of the page...

Date: Sat Nov 17 00:19
mike (eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeecerlang...):

It was the feedback/distortion on the solo in the Who's "Anyway Anyhow Anywhere" that got me into this whole crazy thing in the first place......thank god... (and Pete Townshend of course)

Date: Fri Nov 16 22:27
pOOt ((distort discourse)):

Welp, BD, I will withdraw the phrase "pissed off." You have made me reconsider that part. But, the thrash part I don't quite agree with. Recent example: I was playing Ramp (the G.S. cd) at Buch Spieler (the music store I work at...), and along comes Alway Horses Coming. This perked the customers ears up, and brought forth a few negative comments. (disclaimer: the customer base at Buch Spieler will not take a chance on new music unless it has been reviewed by National Public Radio!@#$@#) Ok, so I took it off, and put of Horses Still Coming, from Down Home 2000. Same reactions? Nope, couple people wondered what this great music I was playing was... They couldn't see past the guitar fuzz of the song. Had to be clean as a whistle. James, yeah, not everything with distortion is rebellious, and vise versa, but as Howe said, it was a surprise to hear Monroe doin' it. I think that still applies for country/bluegrass today. Maybe not as shocking, but country w/ distortion gets slapped with the alt-country label, or they're just called a bar band. The distorted sound hasn't been accepted. It's still a rock thing... I do agree w/ you & Howe about boxed distortion. It don't always fly. So, where does this bring us? "... & Crazy Horse" as a disclaimer on Neil Young albums warning older crowds that only like Harvest/Harvest Moon not to drop down the cash even tho it's the same artist mastermind? There's a little truth in that. It just amazes me what effect a few extra harmonics can have. Maybe I should be doing this on the discussion email list... Moonlight In Vermont, Poot

Date: Fri Nov 16 21:46
Mitch (snazzy frumple):

Thanks, Jim...and thanks again.

Date: Fri Nov 16 21:06
archivist (archive@giantsand.com):

Ok - just added in the Archive section:) "Steadfast" from the just completed tour - October 30th in Newcastle England. What a great song and great new arrangement! Enjoy!

Date: Fri Nov 16 20:29
Mitch (The Raymen):

Hey Poot, not sure if deliberate distortion was committed to tape prior to Link Wray, but I think it was surely around. I believe there are some accidental-ish bits here and there on old live blues recordings that pre-date "Rumble," and I have it in my brain that Scotty Moore actually crunched it a few times early on--though can't say what, where, or when. I believe the Beatle boys were fond of using acoustic guitars in the studio, then having the engineer crank it up so the strumming went into the red and created a more electric, bristling noise--guess that kinda counts as distortion.

Date: Fri Nov 16 19:39
e (m):

*******Yay! Echo& the Bunnymen tomarrow--just found out(and sharing my joy with club sand))***

Date: Fri Nov 16 18:14
Mitch (YA/L):

Jim Archivist--in case no one has raised their hand on your suggestion--a new MP3 in the archive section would be most welcome. Also, has anymore been said about a future Barrio Fest here in T? I remember someone throwing the idea out a while back (was it Howe?), and thought it'd be a grand ole time. I mean, with all the musical wonderment floating around this town--I think it'd be splendid, but, of course, I would.

Date: Fri Nov 16 14:07
howe ()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()():

distortion, when it comes in a box is often too predictible and convenient, but it can be used as a jumping off point sometimes; a triggering. the relative nature of it should sound like the sound itself is trying to leave its skin. the most vital and expressive form is the unpredictable kind. when that happens its like holding on to a wave that is wriggling out of pattern and out of control. not unlike surfing on sound waves. when its at its most surprising and most unpredictable, yet still beng ridden like rodeo, is when its at its most exciting and most effective. i.e. when i saw bill monroe at the grand ol opry many years ago, the sucker dropped my jaw by careening his mandolin so ferociously up to the face of the mic that a burst of distortion from something so unplugged sounded so fantastic in that quiet plae and coming from such a surprising source. i'll never forget it. distortion should stun and therefore is stunning.

Date: Fri Nov 16 13:35
james s (last time):

good bye, good bye. Watch out for meteors. I hope to be standing in a dark dark field next to a trappist monastary in a rural rural area with no light pollution in the wee wee hours of sunday morn catching meteors. Perhaps I'll turn one into a hat. Good bye, good bye. Get out and watch the meteor storm.

Date: Fri Nov 16 12:35
james s (this isn't free time but...):

I dig the kind of distortion that sounds not like an expensive effects pedal but like the amp is turned up too loud and is about to blow, like the old Who stuff, or Helter Skelter, the Are You Experienced record, White Light White Heat... I also dig the over-the-top effects distortion of some of the live Neil Young stuff (that sound is on some of the GS stuff too). Certainly not everything with distortion is rebellious (not much is anymore, it seems, except in some mindless childish way) and not every artist who IS rebellious uses distortion. The Clash had distortion and volumn and it was great, and Woody Guthrie just had an acoustic guitar.

Date: Fri Nov 16 11:52
BD ((to much free time )):

Distortion not thrashing has never been viewed by me as being PO'd. Makes me want to move my pelvis and embrace an orgassingim. I think distortion is more sensual. Now thrashing, thats what youths use musically to show their anger. The more menacing the more they think you are going to notice. And if we are back to distortion I find Howe's guitar disonics the ultimate and I really like the walkman stuff too.

Date: Fri Nov 16 10:42
poot ((distorted rock)):

Why is the distorted guitar sound still viewed as rebellious? How can a few extra harmonics in the signal produce such a different emotional impact on people? Distorted rock guitar has been around for, 50 years at least... I think Link Wray was one of the first... anyone before that? Seems it should have lost its purpose as rebellion, but those top 40 rock bands still crank out distorted sounds to show how pissed off they are. Give an angry teen kid an electric guitar & an amp, what do they do? DIstortion channel, baby! That's what I did. Take a classical guitarist. Most would probably say he or she is playing beautiful music. Add some distortion, tho, and WHOA they're a heavy metal player now. There are the exceptions; take Robert Fripp's ambient stuff... that's gorgeous, and distorded. But outside of the ambient/new age realm, I can't think of many cases where distortion doesn't alter the listener's perception so as the music seems more raw, or gritty. Why hasn't guitar overdrive become old hat? The Feelies even used it on the mostly clean "Crazy Rythms" on their solos. Why do the sounds of distorted guitar effect us as they do? Please respond, ignore, deflate, or embrace. ... I saw Brazil, the Gilliam film, for the first time yesterday. Wow. Ok! Loving Rambles, Poot

Date: Fri Nov 16 09:07
bird (avalon):

Perhaps Robyn should have said "Killing for food and MERCY isn't evil if done in a PROPER manner."

Date: Fri Nov 16 09:03
BD ((I)):

Here in Chicago it's like April and smells like spring. Warm and 65, Just fantastic, Hey does anyone know what an item up on ebay is. It is called "Al Perry frontier flirt Giant Sand RAREOOPCD". It looks like a concert poster but the listing seems to be tunes by Al Perry. Listens = Down Home 2000 (As good as Confluence), Steve Wynn, Cisco Houston (What a voice), Julie London (What a fine everything!), The Jazz Scene and I found this old vinyl album by Chico Hamilton called "The Dealer" Larry Coryell playing his first gig and Archie Shepp doing a bit of wild organ splashing. Really funky, soulfully groovy.

Date: Fri Nov 16 08:14
Blaine (@work):

Music: New Joe Strummer, Paul K "Wilderness of Mirrors", Miles "Silent Way", Mingus "Black Saint", new 16 Horsepower, old Ubu w/Peter Laughner, Billie Holliday; Movie: Smoke Signals

Date: Fri Nov 16 07:48
em (...The ozone layer has no ozone anymore and you're gonna' leave me for the guy next door?):

****well I will, James and D--I look forward*** They say the president's dead but no one can find his head it's been missing now for weeks But no one noticed it he had seemed so fit and I'm Sick of it.

Date: Fri Nov 16 07:37
james (s):

yes, go see it. Visually beautiful. Billy Bob did much better than I thought it possible for him to do. I enjoyed every second of the flick. Really funny at times (darkly) and disturbing at times... you know... Coens.

Date: Fri Nov 16 07:31
di (" and they say the midwest is in great distress cause NASA blew up the moon ".....):

.......!!!!!! - the incredible Lou Reed ! - ironically, a 10 year old album like " New York ", could have been written today - " DOES ANYONE REALLY NEED A BILLION DOLLAR ROCKET " ??????????

Date: Fri Nov 16 07:26
di (well, e ( m ) ,):

"The man Who Wasn't There", is , A FANTASTIC MOVIE !!!!!!!! go and see it at once !

Date: Fri Nov 16 07:01
davey (davebroom@dial.pipex.com):

a mess of stuff: Mark Laneghan, Tara Jane O'Neil, Acid Mothers Temple, Ryan Adams, Miles Live at Fillmore East (scary!), Charley Patton, Rev Gary Davis @ Newport, Boxhead Ensemble, Gorky's new one, Robert Pete Williams, Aesop Rock, Clouddead, Orchestra Baobab's Pirates Choice re-release and Sonic Youth's NYC Ghosts & Flowers. It soothes the baby and pisses off the neigbours... have a good w/end sandy p

Date: Fri Nov 16 06:51
* (m):

wich?

Date: Fri Nov 16 06:50
e (m):

***James--The Man who wasn't There(was that it?)--was it worth seeing? we're hotly debating witch movie for tonight***

Date: Fri Nov 16 06:47
em (*::with a drom-roll introduction::*):

***Archivist, I hope we do get another track--yay-now I'm excited*** Mitch, I haven't gotten yoko's new cd but I think I will today-- and wouldn't you know it? yoko's popped up just in time to save the world..I love the Joe Strummer& Mescaleros album, and I am slightly afraid of the new Paul Mcartney..As far as kitty names go, I'm keeping a bunch in mind so when i go on sunday, I can see what fits the wee kitten. I'll try my best to only give him one name..Tommy, it's hard to name multiple cats according to eachother--my friend has a harold and a maude but the harold keeps dying and then he gets a new one and then the maude runs away and then there's only boy cats at the pound and so he's stuck with two harolds..

Date: Fri Nov 16 06:35
james S (i have no hats to hoard):

Listening to a little of everything as I've starting making mix tapes. I'm putting one song from each artist in my collection, moving through in alphabetical order. I just finished my eighth 90 min cassette with a song from the Mekons. It's an interesting experiment. B-52s followed by Bach. Happiness is a Warm Gun followed by the Moonlight Sonata. Bob Marley followed by Jimmy Martin. You get the picture. Saw the new Coen Broth movie last night. Have a good day all.

Date: Fri Nov 16 05:57
archive (archive@giantsand.com):

Talking bout listening... Has everyone checked out the MP3's in the Archive section? Perhaps we should add another track this weekend!

Date: Fri Nov 16 05:23
tHom (@work):

enchanting my CD player right now is an amazing field recording of Bulgarian folk music made by jeff mangum, called orange twin field recordings vol 1 or something like that - it is truly magical, captivating, once it starts playing it can't be stopped - also recommended is the untitled cd by circulatory system (it isn't olivia tremor control but it might as well be).

Date: Fri Nov 16 02:59
jpr (northern woods):

these are stuck in mind from the last 2 weeks: stones: let it loose, jackie leven: call mother a lonely field, waterboys: too close too heaven, motorpsycho: a k9 suite (roadwork vol. 1), tomahawk, fugazi: the argument, muse: origin of symmetry, taj mahal & toumani diabate: kulanjan, buffalo springfield: out of my mind

Date: Fri Nov 16 02:34
Insider-Sand (muzak):

Well the new PAPA M album on Drag City/Domino is wonderful, as is the new Silver Jews album....there's always 'UNSUNGGLUM' of course in all it's seventy minute scorched desert-rock glory...

Date: Fri Nov 16 01:08
Stefan (StefanRoehrich@t-online.de):

Re music - I've rediscovered The Feelies recently. Found Only Life in a 2nd hand store - "a consistent (45 minutes) of unchanging tones and symmetry", but I like it, it doesn't get boring. ... and by the way, thanks Mike for bringing another Sandman volume on its way. The cover art is great, too.

Date: Thu Nov 15 23:58
Mitch (one, two, three at The Shelter...was supposed to be one):

Well, nothing wrong about them Monkees, honestly. Birds, The Bees, & The Monkees is a great piece of well-polished, contrived, and oddly unique pop. So as long as I'm dipping deep into the wells of the not-so-hip-hip...at the moment I'm listening to the latest by Yoko Ono: Blueprint for a Sunrise. If you don't like her, you'll hate it. If you like her, you'll think it's quite great. Also, here at CasaDeChangCullin we're very excited about Lucilla Galeazzi's Lunario. An advance copy of Sir Paul's latest has gone around a few times here, and it's half great ("From A Lover To A Friend," "Back In The Sunshine Again," and the 10-minute opus of "Rinse The Raindrops" are highlights--thanks, Geoff), and the other half is the stuff Mr. M tosses off in his sleep--still feels like the kinda thing we're gonna miss when he's long gone. HEY, EM, the super-deluxe Underwater Moonlight is one of my current faves as well. Okay, lastly lastly, Pete Townshend & Raphael Rudd (The Oceanic Concerts), Joe Henry (Amor), and Joe Strummer & The Mescaleros (Global A Go-Go). Mitch

Date: Thu Nov 15 22:45
Tommy Gailer (scrolling-a-long)):

Tom, right now i love to listen (besides Unsunglum)to The Strokes "Is this it", Mercury Rev "All is dream", 22-Pistepirkko "Rally of love" and Motorpsycho "Phanerothyme".

Date: Thu Nov 15 22:40
Tommy Gailer (scowling and scrolling) (To Em):

Hey Em, looking for a name for your cat? A member of the wilcoboard i am joinning, said recently: "if i get once three black cats, i call them Miles, Monk and Mingus".

Date: Thu Nov 15 21:40
Nick (polecat800@hotmail.com):

very seldom do i add my pennies...but i read every day and since i've been to happy hour, why not...i've been listening to the newest handsome family (just moved to burque, my old town...), damon & naomi's playback singers, which is perfect for the fall i think, joel rl phelps inland empires ep, which everyone in the world should own. and confluence...have the promo confluence poster up in my classroom (i teach high school) and the kids wonder why someone's driving on the tracks...i've yet to share anything sandy with them...soon enough though...

Date: Thu Nov 15 20:57
caveman ((please.........just a little rain)):

Records playing in the cave.........GiGi (soundtrack), Duane Allman "An Anthology Volume II", Deep Purple "This Time Around/Live '75" (Tommy Bolin), Jimmy Smith "Root Down", Todd Rundgren "Todd", Bottle Rockets "24hrs a Day", Grant Green "First Sessions" & Neil Young "Road Rock Vol. 1.

Date: Thu Nov 15 20:21
Chris (G):

I could dig some Hank Sr. I am also known to get down to The Monkeys when the mood is right. Have I given Howe a hat yet?

Date: Thu Nov 15 19:51
e (m):

*Oh-and Tom--da de da de de, da de da de da..

Date: Thu Nov 15 19:48
**m (with an 'e' in the front of the whole operation**):

******************************************************************************* wow-lucky-- free stuff--see that's reason enough to become a struggling musician *****************************************************************************

Date: Thu Nov 15 19:08
howe (i think):

hi em. i stumbled across a box of records that we sent back home when we were on tour a few years ago. we were doing a show at a radio station on the road and for some reason they were liquidating their vinyl jazz collection and offered us to pick through it. we did. well picked and shipped. all this time later i have just now rediscovered the pickings. so...miles and miles of monk and mingus among us at the moment.

Date: Thu Nov 15 18:51
tom ((and the list goes on)):

End of Amnesia by M. Ward, Down Home 2000, and some funny W.H. Burroughs.

Date: Thu Nov 15 18:47
em (m):

***hey, Howe, if you're around--I'm curious--what are you listening to these days?**

Date: Thu Nov 15 18:43
em (***well why not?***):

*************************************************************************** Oh well I'm liking Sparklehorse, Mercury Rev, The new edition of Underwater Moonlight w/ some extra tracks, Slim Cessna's Auto Club, Gliian Welch,the new bOb and, wouldn't you know it?? The list goes on..

Date: Thu Nov 15 18:26
tom (Shivering kitten):

What have all of you sandie people been listening to the last couple of months? Music, that is. Just asking . Out here in my parish, there was some Sparklehorse, some Sand, some Hank Sr, and not to forget Mr. Fahey.

Date: Thu Nov 15 17:36
Chris G (be I ):

James, I think you're hoarding hats.

Date: Thu Nov 15 16:31
Sean (sean.tracey@btinternet.com):

Arrh.

Date: Thu Nov 15 14:43
every grain of sand (:)):

welcome back, Patti. We missed you too.

Date: Thu Nov 15 14:32
poot (Action Packed Ax Act):

Very nice homage to Mr. Price, Mitch. Tho, it'd be strange giving the King Of Creep a bath.

Date: Thu Nov 15 14:22
james (s):

good show, Mitch. You win a bowl of chili, a small hat (if Chris has any left), and a cat genetically altered to keep you from sneezing.

Date: Thu Nov 15 14:17
Patti' (s back I missed you too much):

Just had to share our kitty story. My son Rudy works at a plant nursery and he found an abandoned kitten in the bushes that was very near death.(just a few weeks old) It smelled like death. He bought a tity bottle and some kitten formula and nursed it back to life. She nursed like a baby lion so he and Lily named her Nahla. She's fat and healthy now....slightly crazy since she was malnourished but provides hours of entertainment. And she thinks Rudy is her mother! Love to all of you and yours.Patti

Date: Thu Nov 15 14:11
Mitch (dkdk):

Hotel New Hampshire?

Date: Thu Nov 15 13:09
james (more of the same):

It would be pretty funny to have a little kitten named Iron Man. My last pet was a dog that I named Sorrow. Anybody know what book has a dog named Sorrow in it? Here's a clue. The dog had a stinky wind problem and later got stuffed. Don't worry, my dog didn't have either of those problems.

Date: Thu Nov 15 13:09
Blaine (@work):

...now we're rollin' Poot. A friend has a cat name of Claudette, another is Fido. Em, I got my fingers crossed you ain't the type to saddle yr cat with an 18-part name and feel the need to recite it to everyone introduced to said cat. ...elsewhere...anyone hear the new/unreleased Wilco alb they had on their site? Does it live up to the advance word on the street?

Date: Thu Nov 15 12:10
Mitch (rock star pet names, and more):

Poot, I had a dog named Ringo as a boy. It's weird, because I have old photos of her (Ringo), and she really does look like, well, Ringo Starr--the eyes, the nose, and the general dog expression on her long face. The first pet I actually was allowed to name was a German shepard, and he became Vincent--after Vincent Price (my favorite actor at the time). Soon he became just Vinnie, which rolled off the tongue better when calling him home. Has em narrowed down a name for the cat yet?

Date: Thu Nov 15 12:04
jeb jones (JJ in az):

Hey, we have our very own tiny terrorist here in the comments section...It really is a global problem...I just wish I could fiqure out what it stands for?...I guess we will have to live with the terror...I am scared... are you? Please Roscoe Robin Tweety Bird don't eat the Cat.

Date: Thu Nov 15 12:00
poot ((toot)):

I always thought Dinah was a good cat name. Or Claude (Clawed, if you prefer...). I inherited a hamster from a neighbor many years ago. She named him Zeppelin. He rocked. Love, Poot

Date: Thu Nov 15 09:34
Robyn (dedicated to Rainer):

hetm, hem.(clearing throat)....Ladies and Gentlemen, may I have your attention please....(John's drum roll)...may we experience Joey's favorite part.......THE SNAKE (cymbal crash.) It's just an itty bitty snake under Saint Sofie's foot. For those who have not seen the original photograph it is probably undetectable......but it's there. Most of you think it is a sign of evil, some of you think snakes are pets. This snake was one of Oscar Luke's toys. TADA.........................................................Killing is evil. You can't fight evil with evil. It isn't evil to kill for food if it is done in the proper manner. Please read Leslie Marmon Silko's "How to Hunt Buffalo". Let's salvage what we have and start anew...........................Thank you THE SUN Magazine. I love you Howe.

Date: Thu Nov 15 08:48
emm** (half-asleep as the day crawls by ):

****************************************************************************** Hatless? what if he comes with a hat? what if he has an inferiority complex towards cat in the hat? now that would be just plain cruel. Shiver? Chachurian? what is the significance of Chachurian might I ask-or maybe that's common knowledge--ah me--sorry to make you sniffel and sneeze, James--if it makes you feel any better, I'll say I'm getting one of those freeky hairless cats..Hope everyone's having a lovely day--George Harrison is in Staten Island undergoing cancer treatment& he's only 58--meanwhile, mr. Paul well into his 60's is running allover the place still singing Twist&Shout--maybe it's all in not thinking too much? Perhaps Wings was more brilliant than we will ever know

Date: Thu Nov 15 08:21
james s (i like the idea of CAT but.... there is perhaps some idea of cat existing in some platonic realm that wouldn't make my allergies go crazy...):

all of this cat talk is making me sneeze.

Date: Thu Nov 15 07:26
Blaine (@work):

Mitch, don't feel like the lone ranger. I just decoded it myself.

Date: Thu Nov 15 04:53
davey (from where the giant sand is on the beach) (davebroom@dial.pipex.com):

What about calling the cat Chachurian?

Date: Thu Nov 15 02:54
dan the good photographer (strange world):

hello, how you doing. lets see some love in the world. life is too short at its longest

Date: Thu Nov 15 02:05
Guni ((...)):

Asked my cats. They liked Shiver, too. But they also suggested Hatless.

Date: Thu Nov 15 01:23
Insider-Sand (down below):

Once had a great little cat called 'Tosca' (after some opera I think....)

Date: Wed Nov 14 17:55
tom ((just remembering a half thought)):

How about naming the kitten Shiver ?

Date: Wed Nov 14 17:52
tom ((&)):

not to mention the guitar play. mind the piano.

Date: Wed Nov 14 15:40
james (now you've made me feel slow as I never got it. Several cheers for Mitch!):

Sir Gelb is a master with the wordplay.

Date: Wed Nov 14 15:31
Mitch (Christmas Kitty...I just got it...ergh!!!!):

Oh man, am I little slow on the up-take. Better swizzle my coffee and jump-start my brain.

Date: Wed Nov 14 13:04
Sarah (Sarah@cat):

My cats started out as kittens named Pippi and Stella but have evolved into Poo Poo (don't ask) and Ladybug. We've been watching a lot of Animal Planet together lately. Definitely wait for some personality to start shining through before you name it. Or you could work backwards and pick a cat that fits a name. Someday I hope to find a cat that can live up to the name Gamera (of Godzilla fame)...

Date: Wed Nov 14 12:57
julie (juliemolo@aol.com):

Howe- When will your tour dates for 2002 be posted?? Any plans for Chicago on New Years Eve? Saw you last year and it was great.

Date: Wed Nov 14 11:56
john (the guy and the gal):

by golly you're right!

Date: Wed Nov 14 11:56
Tom ((oops)):

Sorry 'bout that James :)

Date: Wed Nov 14 11:29
james (the one looking right is a guy, but the one looking left is a gal. Please don't ask me how I know...):

Jurisprudence is really good. Jurisprudence on the dotted line, and you can call it Prudence for short. Enstead of calling, "here Kitty," you can call,"dear Prudence." Well Chris, some other good dharma bum must have taken the hat from your doorstep before I got there. I'm still hatless.

Date: Wed Nov 14 11:02
john (still wondering about "Looking Right Guy" and "Looking Left Guy"):

I like really ferocious names for kittens. It's funny if they turn out to be real pussycats, and if they turn out to be good mousers or (not so nice) birdhunters, they've got the right kind of name. Whatever you do, please, don't let anyone talk youin "declawing" him/her . It's not at all a nice thing to do.

Date: Wed Nov 14 10:57
grey cat (with fangs,):

that is***

Date: Wed Nov 14 10:56
emm (***):

***************************************************************************** Hamburger, eh? Cooking fat? Jurisprudence? Actually, I do like BB--you people are just brimming with inspiration(albeit alittlebit odd now and then:)--well i am off to math, but if given the choice between geometry and discussing kitty names, I'd gladly choose the kitty thing!-keep 'em coming-we're picking him up on saturday. I still like kriss, miss kitty. Oh and Blaine, this isn't too interesting but until just recently I had a big fat grey with fangs named Shadow.

Date: Wed Nov 14 10:27
Wolf (howling but cheerful):

Adding some wisdom to the kitten history I suggest you give them a food like name. For example: whopper, Birdy, Chocolate, hamburger, … I've got three male (rather massive) big pussycats and they're not responding when I call their name but the food like name-trick pulls it off quite nice! Just open your fridge and get inspired: cheese, brocolli, pepper, T-bone, … But still BB sounds mighty fine.

Date: Wed Nov 14 10:03
bird (avalon):

I haven't read anything because I'm alittle concerned of it crashing but ....I'll try to be quick.....and those huge hand carved painted foam chains, thank-yoou Arizona Theater Company, My Mom and Dad better be rewarded for all theyy're love and quuidance into that Alunimum Canoe, thank you, David Martinsson. Mike Brewer hang on here, whoooo we're...Bill Frisell for the beautiful music and BIGG HOPEE, The Dalhi Lama, gosh genius teachers we have here, mucho grande, I've had many but my sisters have been soooo cool.......

Date: Wed Nov 14 07:59
james (s):

a buddy of mine once had a kitten named Vishnu.

Date: Wed Nov 14 07:54
blaine (@work):

Em (and other friends of animals) -- we just got a bouncingboundingblack&white ball of fun who came with the name Billie. My girlfriend took it to the vet, thus causing us to reconsider William. But I agree w/Ian(Hunter), sometimes the personality provides you w/ all the clues you need, i.e. Billie gets called Shadow (Morton or Wilson) by me -- esp when he appears underfoot, seemingly from nowhere(everybody knows). Also had a dog called Sonic who seemed pretty in-tune w/the MC5. Blaine

Date: Wed Nov 14 07:40
Bird (Avalon):

Howe,The fog is so thick this morning and I got lost (look on a national weather site.) I was scared I wouldn't make it across the lake but just go in circles but then a crow appeared (I thought it was Nik but it acted more like Leslie). I made it back home.----I didn't mean to insult your children with the chicken photograph I really meant it to be a compliment to birds, they can be our children too. Anyway, it was Keith's idea, I can prove it with the contact sheets, he posed with Oscar in almost all of them... and then used it against me in court.----As to the lamps, they were really meant to light the way and I'm really sorry if you didn't approve. I like Sofie so much there was no doubt she should have it. If Patty wanted the lamp of Rainer or didn't want anyone else to have it she should have talked to me instead of being malicious.----Back to "Saint Sofie" I told you all you had to do was ask me and I would have given you permission to use it AGAIN, with new material and without Imago. But it was my idea, my camera, my clothes, my studio, my film, my darkroom and my photograph. I paid Sofie to model for me. I was happy you wanted to use it on your CD even though I don't like the title or some of the lyrics. What is your real reason for turning it into a negative?

Date: Wed Nov 14 05:28
erwin (kitty naming again):

em -- i just remembered i got my friend's kitten a bouncing ball with tiny dog in it in a particular-london-with-southern-usa-elvis-kinda-stuff-in-the-window after barbican show which it (she) seems to enjoy.. i don't suggest you call the little thing bouncing, nor ball for that matter, but BB refers to a great french lady, doesn't it..

Date: Wed Nov 14 01:20
Adrian (underthesurface):

I saw M Ward again last night, really great for the third-time....this time he was playing electric instead of the usual acoustic...but that didn't stop that nifty finger-picking and it also brought a bluesier element to play....he did a lovely version of 'Carolina' on the piano as well (from his current 'End of Amnesia' album)...plus his sublime cover of 'Let's Dance' by Bowie and a couple of great new songs... he is a rare talent indeed...thanks to Howe for the special delivery

Date: Wed Nov 14 01:01
Ian (the usual one):

Winter has truly arrived, the clothes I hung outside to dry yesterday and forgot to retrieve last night are frozen solid this morning. My son witnessed his first snowfall a day or 2 ago, he thought it was great until he touched it and realised it was cold. We just adopted 3 abandoned kittens their temporary names are 'Tore' 'Andre' and 'Flo' the significance of this will probably not be apparrent unless you are Scottish or Norwegian. I say temporary names as they will probably change, I never named my children until they were a few weeks old and with pets sometimes it has taken longer I need to know a bit about the personality before I come up with a name. I have been trying to understand the 'payment for photography' 'scandal'and it helps to have Howe put it in perspective, Ok it's his perspective but it sounds reasonable. I am sure most of the contributors to this board are members of the Sandman Tree (If not you should be!)which amounts to the artist, Howe, giving his work to fans for free, this generous attitude convinces me of Howe's integrity. Ok my fingers a too cold to type anymore.

Date: Tue Nov 13 23:40
mike (just back from seeing Matt Ward and in rather a good mood):

em... how about 'cooking fat', so when it gets lost you can run around shouting "where's that cooking fat"!!

Date: Tue Nov 13 23:32
Sean Tracey (sean.tracey@btinternet.com):

Hello Tracey !

Date: Tue Nov 13 20:10
frak (()):

I had a rat named Susan once. Not sure that helps. So, em, how about giving the critter something it can live up to, or at least feel empowered by. My suggestion: Jurisprudence.

Date: Tue Nov 13 19:43
erwin (_-):

alors.. about the kittykat, a couple of months ago a friend of mine decided to take a holiday and leave her kitten at my place -- it (she) is called 'poes' (which is flemish (a language spoken in the old world) for cat) -- now i still dont know if it (she) actually responded when i called out its (her) name, but it (she) ate half of a roland barthes book in a day or two, so i kinda let things be to see what would happen.. now when i go over to visit, it (she) looks at me funny and kitty-gracefully, so maybe i'll take the other part next time for it (her) to read/eat -- well.. this isn't going anywhere and i think roland is a bad name for a cat anyway.. definately not roland.. catch some sleep now.

Date: Tue Nov 13 18:37
em (me):

****************************************************************************** gee--I've never seen Gunsmoke--though I feel as if I have--maybe fractions of it..but I do like "miss kitty"( he he and I like the idea of "Kriss, Miss Kitty")--I'd be the wierd old lady telling everyone about my cat's name..hmm--My friend has two ferrets named Franny and Zoey, Mitch..and a cat named Yuka. Anymore ideas from the sand-dwellers?? i'd love to hear some...well sleep is calling me. later.

Date: Tue Nov 13 17:09
Mitch (dfks):

Pet names are a tough one. I have an old grey tabby named Zooey, and a tiny one named Yuki. I even had a Franny, but she ran off when someone offered better food. Knew a guy who named his dog Dog, and his cat Cat. My buddy Mark named his dog Bob, and Bob could drink beer...really, really drink beer. Let us know what you settle on, I'm kinda curious.

Date: Tue Nov 13 16:53
Robyn (for those of you who don't know):

His Name is Walker McDaniels Stettinius

Date: Tue Nov 13 16:51
Robyn (eyecaramba.com):

The last two times I spoke to Walker I asked him his name and he said "Walker Stettinius McDaniels."

Date: Tue Nov 13 16:15
howe (really ):

ok em, being a "gunsmoke" fan form yesteryear....i sugget the name MISS KITTY. and if you're the type that needs a last name for your pets, then KRISS is good...that way when you register the little thing for license and such you can put the last name first on the form.....KRISS, MISS KITTY

Date: Tue Nov 13 15:57
************** (em):

************************************************************************* Howe, I was thinking about that--how anyone could really be anyone on this page--especially Howe..I'm suprised no one's tried it before. Meanwhile, James, Chris and in question Budha are eating chili without me..Oh and, everybody--I'm buying a kitten--what should I name it??? any ideas????

Date: Tue Nov 13 15:22
tom ((.....)):

tupperware CD case, that's a realistic way of describing it Matt. Never mind the package, content's great.

Date: Tue Nov 13 13:46
matt (Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh):

its cool. its kinda like it comes in a round, tupperware cd case. if you can imagine such a thing. different.

Date: Tue Nov 13 13:37
Jonathan Reeve (mdareeve@aol.com):

Can anyone who has the "Unsunglum" CD describe its packaging? Thanks for your help!

Date: Tue Nov 13 13:24
robatoid (Wookie Foot's Site):

Another name of mine. Howe never bothered to answer any of my mail in the past 9 years. I wrote many times, mostly asking how Tucson was (since I was run out of there.) It's been a hellish 9 years and maybe most of you know what it's like to be called a child pornographer. I didn't get any help at all. I have two boys, Walker and Luke and I haven't seen them in years. Luke lives in Phoenix (I'm actually frightened to step foot in that state) and Walker lives in Richmond, Virginia. It is so hard. I never insulted his children, I just asked how could he bring more here in a time like this. Patti spread nasty things about me, would stare at me and rarely say anything nice. I actually thought she was stalking me the last time I was there, l998, after Rainer's death. She harrassed me about a lamp I made that had my images of Rainer on the shade. She knew I was an artist, he came to my studio, posed with his dobro. After it never sold I bartered with another friend (babysitting) and hadn't seen it in years. Patti thought it should have been hers. I offered to make another but she wasn't interested. What's taking Nikk so long.

Date: Tue Nov 13 12:22
Tom ((listening to Rainer)):

Amen to that

Date: Tue Nov 13 11:53
howe (-part 3-):

now as for robyn rosco bird avalon stoutenberg mcdaniels....if that is her real name....the picture she is lamenting about is the picture of my wife, sofia, on the original cover of the 'glum' record. she was paid back in 1994, by her own admission, a massive sum of $2,500 for the use of all the pictures on that record. 5 times more then anyone ever got for doing artwork on a giant sand record. (at the time, i was attempting to release a series of album covers with tucson artists' work (the others being 'center of the universe' and 'purge and slouch')). anyway, many may know the fate of that record, the label at that time severely downsized around its release date, and 'glum' barely saw the light of day. since that time i have recieved permision to re-release the record through ow om, which means mostly to the fan base and live shows. so in the process of re-releasing the record, and because of adding the 4 extra tracks from that session, i ended up only using the negative of the original cover because of the symbolism of it never having properly seen the light of day. once the record was posted on the site is when we began hearing from robyn roscoe. and her manner of asking to be paid again for the use of her picture was peppered with bizarre insults to my children and patti and rainer. not good. at last count she was requesting to be paid another $7,500 while also admitting she is not currently taking her court appointed meds. anyway, she used to be a friend. in the years since, she seems to have slipped from grace somewhat. we wish her only wellness and peace and for you all to have patience with her. but thanks for responding with a unique sense of vigilance here at the site.

Date: Tue Nov 13 10:53
tracey (oh! canada):

hello to all of the howes out here on the planet. the winter chill has set in here. flurries fly and the days are short. ****** today is good, I got a job. and it's indoors

Date: Tue Nov 13 10:52
howe (-part 2-):

i wondered how long it would be till someone used my name to add a message here and how would anyone ever know.....so i am telling you that it wasn't me who wrote the comment down a few comments from here with the misquoted '(unsnug?)glum' lyrics.....the correct lyric should be "her heart was a compass..." not a temple for cryin out loud.

Date: Tue Nov 13 10:47
howe (-part 2-):

i wondered how long it would be till someone used my name to add a message here and how would anyone ever know.....so i am telling you that it wasn't me who wrote the comment down a few comments from here with the misquoted '(unsnug?)glum' lyrics.....the correct lyric should be "her heart was a compass..." not a temple for cryin out loud.

Date: Tue Nov 13 10:44
james S (as i seem to be fond of saying...):

amen amen.

Date: Tue Nov 13 10:36
howe (-part 1-):

this site has a fantastic life of its own. and life is good, no matter how vexed the world becomes. yesterday was the 4th anniversary of rainer's missingness. and it would be a very different place here on the planet if he could still be here with us: his smile, his sparklin eyes, his words. we will soon be sending out there, in said vexed world, the recordings of his final days here. its a fine collection of soothingness and super natural play. thanks to patti, gabe, rudy and lily for the desire to share it with us. can i get an amen ?

Date: Tue Nov 13 09:09
Bird (avalon):

It's beautiful here this morning, the lake is deep blue and not a cloud in the sky...the squirrels are busy gathering. I miss my friends in New York but good guy Nik Hill is there...he always manages to pull through and take care of so many people. Anyone know what he thinks about "Saint Sofie" turned into a negative?

Date: Tue Nov 13 08:53
BD ((+)):

It's getting playfully heavy in this comments section. I think it is a good thing though to hear from all interested friends/fans and what small things occur in ours/their daily lives as it is happening around the world. Way cool stuff posted here both positive and negative. If there was an award for conceiving and implemeting websites, Mike Brewer would be at the top A#1. Without his doings I know this would not happen. No fan web site can touch us. A tribute to the far reaching arm of GS, Rainer, Howe, Joey and the human rhythm section The Rev John C. Love It and Yous All.

Date: Tue Nov 13 05:47
Bird (avalon):

My great uncle Ole Highland passed on this morning. He was 94 and the last of his kind. He put in great service and now he's free.....

Date: Tue Nov 13 05:45
howe (unsnugglum):

her heart was a temple and knew when and where i'd wreck

Date: Mon Nov 12 20:43
Roscoe's Friend (Sand Fan):

I know this person and its not worth the time being spent...Just ignore and it will go away.

Date: Mon Nov 12 19:57
Billy Crawford (Billy.Crawford@dcita.gov.au):

When are you guys coming to Australia ? It's about time

Date: Mon Nov 12 17:34
Mitch (last thing before the big sequester):

Just thought I'd add that tonight of all nights would be a good one to play your Rainer CDs or records or both...until the wee hours of dawn. Very few things can give such fine perspective when things seem uncertain or questionable. Mitch

Date: Mon Nov 12 17:08
Mitch (patterns of time):

I think Paul's suggestion is the most logical on this one. And James James, man, does that chili sound so good!!! Lastly, for those who didn't Mike Brewer's latest post, looks like a very tasty Sandman is forthcoming--so if ya haven't joined the Sandman series, I urge I urge.

Date: Mon Nov 12 16:53
III (Ahhhhhhh........):

Peace, love and a chili cookoff......an Arizona luuuuuuvfest. Bravo Tom, Mitch, James & Chris. We all wish for peace upon the same stars at night.

Date: Mon Nov 12 16:23
Paul Kerr (p.kerr@ntlworld.com):

Re: Rosco. How do we deal with this? I don't really know what's going on here. I thought Rosco's first post ( about the funeral notices) was insensitive. Things have grown since then. Obviously some are upset.I think that rather than respond to posts by Rosco, we totally ignore them (in the absence of moderating or to be frank, censoring them). Rosco feels rejected and is using this forum to vent some grievance. As I said, i don't know what it is, real or imagined, but any response is going to inflame this. My hope is that if we all refrain from reponding he/she will go away . we might get some more extreme posts initially but blank them out.

Date: Mon Nov 12 16:03
tom ((here here)):

a small hat for all of us

Date: Mon Nov 12 15:58
Chris (G):

word. ;)

Date: Mon Nov 12 15:52
james (S):

I'll do that, Chris. It's going to be a really small bowl though. Buddha doesn't need much, and the endorphins released by the chili peppers might hamper meditation. It's ok if you want to leave me out a small hat too.

Date: Mon Nov 12 15:39
Chris (G(the peacemaker be I)):

James, save some chili for me. You could put some in a bowl and leave it out(like for Budha) and i will return the favor by leaving one of my most treasured hats on my doorstep(with you in mind)...by the way, where's my pumpkin pie, man??? peace. Chris G is on the road again.

Date: Mon Nov 12 15:25
james (S):

amen amen, Tom & Mitch. Let it echo from this corner too! I made a kick ass pot of chili yesterday and I wish I could have some of you friendlies over for a heaping helpin'. Sometimes it seems that there's nothing left but craziness and meanness in this world. You see see it or hear about it everywhere you turn. Kind of makes you forget about all the good stuff, and good people. Music is good. Chili is good. Clear days in November are good. I'd like to think that most, if not all, people are good. Certainly there are a lot of us who are damaged. If we could only get past the illusion that we can fix ourselves somehow by damaging others.... Peace all.

Date: Mon Nov 12 15:16
whatever (...):

yah - I clapped my hands during a show from 95 that was put on the Goods and Services release... Where's my check? seriously, your comment (roscoe) is way out of line and there is no excuse for that verbage. I think the FBI would agree!

Date: Mon Nov 12 14:45
Mitch (A-train blues):

Let me echo Tom's love and well wishes, especially for Patti and her family on this beautiful, perfectly clear Nov. 12 here in Tucson.

Date: Mon Nov 12 14:36
tom ((live and let live i guess)):

Love to all fine sandpeople out there

Date: Mon Nov 12 14:21
aayyy (Patti):

RESTRAINING ORDER

Date: Mon Nov 12 14:14
Patti (K):

I forgot to mention that I already have a restaining order in works.....and just a tiny word On Howe's behalf. He's even been nicer than me. Peace.

Date: Mon Nov 12 14:07
Patti (K.):

No she has nothing to do with the memorial cards that I made. Just for the record. I wish she would just write me directly and quit dragging all of you into this. I have tried to remain calm and peaceful in these very trying times. Do I succumb to the fear that this terrorist is trying to inflict or do I keep sending love and prayers that she will take her medicine and move on to something else? This is not the first time Ive become (part of) a focal point of a crazy. Please keep an open mind and take what this person says with a grain of salt and know that she is making things up as she goes along. Im not going to go into details in defending myself (Rainer) or Howe by any means. Know that I cant come back to this site until she goes away because its too disturbing, and Lord knows the world is disturbing enough with out looking for it! Oh and today is November 12th. Love to all of you.

Date: Mon Nov 12 14:02
Patti (K.):

No she has nothing to do with the memorial cards that I made. Just for the record. I wish she would just write me directly and quit dragging all of you into this. I have tried to remain calm and peaceful in these very trying times. Do I succumb to the fear that this terrorist is trying to inflict or do I keep sending love and prayers that she will take her medicine and move on to something else? This is not the first time Ive become (part of) a focal point of a crazy. Please keep an open mind and take what this person says with a grain of salt and know that she is making things up as she goes along. Im not going to go into details in defending myself (Rainer) or Howe by any means. Know that I cant come back to this site until she goes away because its too disturbing, and Lord knows the world is disturbing enough with out looking for it! Oh and today is November 12th. Love to all of you.

Date: Mon Nov 12 13:37
lurker (an opinion):

It is disrespectful to use somebody's artwork without their permission and against their wishes. It is not the kind of disrespect that justifies violence or threats of violence, and it is not really comparable to the other examples of disrespect that you mentioned. Of course, the importance of such things is rather subjective, and I suspect that there is more involved here than the use of a photograph. In a perfect world, all parties are willing to put egos aside, have a little detachment and empathy, and be willing to suffer a little loss to keep the peace.

Date: Mon Nov 12 13:31
john (don't get the point indeed):

and the point that we are missing about making bombs would be what? I really can't see any other meaning when you're telling someone that you don't like what they are doing and they better stop or you will have to learn to make bombs.

Date: Mon Nov 12 12:53
emme (********************):

*******wowie is it a wierd world--my prayers and love to everyone effected( and I guess we all are)...I think Rosco needs a hug ****************************

Date: Mon Nov 12 12:16
rosco (silversoupnd@hotmail.com):

Hey everybody, you're missing the point on the bomb comment...that's what happens when people don't repect other people. It's what is happening RIGHT NOW, to me on this website and in New York and Afganistan. It's alot more than a stupid photo, it happens to be my heart and soul and I have been violated severly by the Sand People. I detest violence but I understand why people revert to it. Howe has not been nice (Patti has been worse), why should I? Wake up.

Date: Mon Nov 12 12:13
yuk (!!):

rosco - you make me wanna puke! Idiot

Date: Mon Nov 12 11:51
Nuno (stunned at some people's behaviours...):

take a chill pill, rosco... it's only a stupid picture. and if you happen to find a life, get it!...

Date: Mon Nov 12 11:26
Tim (wow):

the first rosko post to Patti made it clear that good taste wasn't a concern. You should have a good lawyer if you are going to be making public bomb threats. That's a pretty stupid thing to do right now (or any time). Take the photo off of the site. Who needs such associations?

Date: Mon Nov 12 11:19
john (ummm...):

I think Rosco is upset that a photograph he took is used on the website or somewhere Rainer's funeral program maybe? It's hard to tell. I don't think emailing Howe DAILY would be the way to go about addressing it, maybe getting in touch with Mike (is it?) who maintains the website, possibly minding one's manners might help as well.

Date: Mon Nov 12 11:11
matt (???):

am i alone in not knowing what 'Rosco' is complaining so vehemently about? chill out man (or man-ess) this is a happy place...

Date: Mon Nov 12 10:26
Insider-Sand (huh):

Er Rosco, that's bad taste to talk about bombs. Why does this matter to you so much? This is a fan site, do you think people who contributed to this site make money from the reading content? Do you think Mike Brewer makes big bucks out of doing this site?...it's a labour of love...let it rest

Date: Mon Nov 12 09:22
rosco (silversoupnd@hotmail.com):

2 for 1 reply: I tried, very hard. I e-mailed the webmaster back in October and asked that it be removed. I've been e-mailing Howe daily. He refuses to remove it or credit me or pay me or say he's sorry. I have all the documents if anyone is interested. I suppose I'll have to get a slimy lawyer. Or learn how to build bombs.

Date: Mon Nov 12 09:17
di ( so very, very sad):

people of New York, keep your strength and for god's sake don;t lose hope - there still is- and always will be- so much beauty in this world - none of us should forget that...

Date: Mon Nov 12 07:45
,,,,,,,,,,,,, (,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,):

I am in total agreement with .............!

Date: Mon Nov 12 05:56
............. (...............):

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Date: Mon Nov 12 05:44
di (and some Fleshtones):

yup ! it was Fleshtones who prepared the scene for BO - a small piece of advice - if you haven't seen Flesh. live, DON'T miss the opportunity of doing so - these guys are something else on stage ! - indescribable - they are a hurricane - a tidal wave that will carry you along - endless dancing , running, playing, show, strip-tease (!!!) - AND the fanatical fans don't have to jump on stage, SINCE Flesh. jump OFF the stage and ON the audience - and that's in DUPLICATE !!!

Date: Mon Nov 12 05:36
di ( ( tHe mAn wHo put Rock in rOck'roll ) ):

athens, saturday night, november the 10th, 2001- time 23:15 - the crowd anxious - the scene empty - subdued playful lights wandering around - the atmosphere electrified - his band ( debby hastings band ) appears on the scene - the audience gets ecstatic - and there he is - 73 year old BO DIDDLEY - marvellous - delightful - amazing - alive and kicking - in high spirits - the man who matched rockn'roll with rock and blues, affecting the course of music like few others - did anyone say that a 73 year old is OLD ????? - the audience LOVED him and BO absorbing the energy raised us with his music till we all became part of one WILD pArtY - " come on people let's party, like we did back in the 50's ! " - and we were all shaking and dancing and singing along with BO - more than 2 hours of unbelievable music - it was ecStAsy - it was deLIriuM - it was a celEbRatiOn - WOW !!!!!! - well, that's what i call a fiNe, or should i say - a sUper fine - an eXtra sUpeR fine concert..........we hadn't lived anything like this, since the unforgettable SCREAMIN' J. HAWKINS' last concert - winter 2000, Rodon Club -

Date: Sun Nov 11 18:31
cHris (G):

well, tom, when you add rabid dogs, you'd better believe it can get pretty painfull.

Date: Sun Nov 11 17:33
2-for-1 night (daily routine for good living and fun):

Robyn Rosco...don't know you, or what you're going on about--and I'm not trying to pick on you. But maybe a public forum like this isn't the best place to address your requests or annoyances. In other words, it seems like a more prudent and tactful way to go about things is to contact those you want something from, i.e. Patti & Howe, in a more private manner. Just a thought.

Date: Sun Nov 11 15:50
tom (..........):

open G tuning isn't painful at all.

Date: Sun Nov 11 14:53
CHRIS (G):

sir Wibble, I like your style.

Date: Sun Nov 11 14:45
paulk (p.kerr@ntlworld.com):

Congratulations Rob, where's the cigars?

Date: Sun Nov 11 13:45
rosco (silversoupnd):

Hi Paula! Please write to me. I'm so glad to hear you're still playing. As for Howe, he ruined my photograph and never asked me to use it. I'd really like it taken off this website and I feel an apology is in order.

Date: Sun Nov 11 11:55
Sir-Wibble (??):

Carefully now Tom that could be painful...

Date: Sun Nov 11 06:13
Tom ((just one more)):

I for myself, have just discovered the wonders of open G tuning on a sunday afternoon

Date: Sun Nov 11 05:59
Tom ((hoopla hat)):

Congratulations with the newborn Rob, glad to see you are living the wonder.

Date: Sun Nov 11 03:14
Tommy Gailer ((stil scrolling)):

Congrats Rob! Good choice with the name ;-)

Date: Sun Nov 11 02:44
j (???):

Sorry, I meant Stainers, again!

Date: Sun Nov 11 01:14
Rob Stanier (Robtstanier@aol.com):

Well spent the first full day with my son Thomas. All of us are very well. I seem to have spent the last day & a bit walking around in a delirious daze. No sleep but telling all and sundry that im a dad. my wife has become even more of a beautiful mystery to me and my child, well, I have no words to express the feeling.Absolutely Astonished in Wordsley UK dosent have the same ring as the Chore classic but it about sums it up. Thankyou all for your kind words and emails. Wish I could meet up with you all for a celebratory beer. Keep Safe and All the best. Rob , Nat and Thomas.XXXXX ps Bought unsunglum from the leicester gig, best 10 quid ive spent in ag

Date: Sat Nov 10 20:10
emme (spreading the gospel of idiot box):

***************************************************************************** If anyone's hibernating tonight, Ryan Adams is on SNL--take a look-that is if you're the tv-watchin' kind**************************************************

Date: Sat Nov 10 14:22
Patti (K.):

Rosko Robyn....this goes out to you with a prayer that you will feel better soon. "For one human being to love one another: that is perhaps the most difficult of all our tasks, the ultimate, the last test and proof, the work for which all other work is preperation" Rainer Maria Rilke To all the rest of you, sorry for the interuption in what is usually an oasis from the maddness. Patti

Date: Sat Nov 10 12:56
Mack (pjbug@omniglobal.net):

Sounds like Roscoe got some bad oysters! Hope it passes soon. Paula Jean Brown? Hmmm? Grinin' like a chesire cat when I saw her about 2 minutes ago and pickin' her guitar... gonna go pile up in the bed with her and watch a movie any moment now. Howe, give Sofie and the kids a hug for Paula and me... Get 'em to give you one for us too, and remember (since quoting lyrics seems to be going around) "it's bigger than that" later, Mack

Date: Sat Nov 10 12:45
Mack (pjbug@omniglobal.net):

Sounds like Roscoe got some bad oysters! Hope it passes soon. Paula Jean Brown? Hmmm? Grinin' like a chesire cat when I saw her about 2 minutes ago and pickin' her guitar... gonna go pile up in the bed with her and watch a movie any moment now. Howe, give Sofie and the kids a hug for Paula and me... Get 'em to give you one for us too, and remember (since quoting lyrics seems to be going around) "it's bigger than that" later, Mack

Date: Sat Nov 10 10:33
tracey (lurking no more!):

Delayed reaction.... sad to have missed what sounds like such an amazing show. Damn that North Atlantic, keeping me from shows like that. Halifax has seen the last of the hurricanes for the season. Welcome to the new stainer grain of sand. keep happy and warm and safe. ps stange aside. i was flustered by the sean/tracey posting awhile back. the spelling of both names matched me & my partners. odd..

Date: Sat Nov 10 09:51
howe (home):

happy birthday thomas casper. just in time to make the world a better place.

Date: Sat Nov 10 09:18
Blaine (@workonSat):

Congratulations Rob & Family

Date: Sat Nov 10 08:24
Bjorn HammersNorway (bhammershaug@mac.com):

Ok, that's it - Austria, UK, Zermany... what can I do to put up a gig in Norway again, Gelb. It's been a while now. What are the costs, risks and factors involved. Specify - I'll obey.

Date: Sat Nov 10 08:22
Bjorn HammersNorway (bhammershaug@mac.com):

Ok, that's it - Austria, UK, Zermany... what can I do to put up a gig in Norway again, Gelb. It's been a while now. What are the costs, risks and factors involved. Specify - I'll obey.

Date: Sat Nov 10 08:06
em (babies babies everywhere):

********************************************************************* Welcome to the world, Thomas:) *********************************************************************

Date: Sat Nov 10 07:39
rosco (silversoupnd@hotmail.com):

After sleeping on it I thought I should have written, I don't cut them up Or use glue. Hey, Sand People, if you're so smart, how in hell is Paula Jean Brown? Any relation to Nicolle Simpson Brown? "Me, I wuz in the height of my powrrs, buried in the small of her nekk." Is anyone following me?

Date: Sat Nov 10 07:19
j (:::congratulations Steiners!:::):

It all starts here!

Date: Sat Nov 10 05:59
Mitch (aslfjasdl):

Congrats, Rob!!! My regards to you and yours.

Date: Sat Nov 10 04:37
karl sinfield (karl@emfoundation.co.uk):

Myself and 4 friends saw the Beyond Nashville show at the Barbican last Saturday - truly sublime. Not only was it great (as ever) to see Howe operating like a scientist in his lab, but also introduced me to the fine work of Mark Linkous and Vic Chesnutt - off to buy their albums now. I'd like to send you guys my book - http://www.emwritingandmusic.com/ However, what with the postal situation, you should email me and let me know if it's OK with you. It's a musical/literary independent publication. While I was putting it together, I had Convergence on repeat. One of the tracks on the *em three* CD reminded me of you guys - it's called Desert, by a bunch of my friends called the Archie Bronson Outfit - I think you'd enjoy. Keep up the good work... K.

Date: Fri Nov 9 22:33
Rob Stanier (Robtstanier@aol.com):

Ladies and Gentlemen out there in Sandland please join me in welcoming my firstborn into the world. Thomas Casper Stanier born this morning at 3.13am UK time. 6lb 10oz and absolutely beautiful. Mom and Baby doing well. All absolutely knackered. Am delirious with joy. Love to you all. Rob Stanier UK.XXXXXX

Date: Fri Nov 9 13:59
rosco (silversoupnd@hotmail.com):

Second thought, maybe it is a type of investment portfolio....never know but it's definately not a scrapbook, I don't use glue.

Date: Fri Nov 9 13:31
rosco (silversoupnd@hotmail.com):

Patti, I'm here. Howe showed it to me. No,portfolio, as in photography not investment. He'd be in good company for a change, like with Bill Frisell's "Look Out for Hope" album.

Date: Fri Nov 9 13:19
Chris (G):

The Block will allow it, granted in small quantities. Carry on. Just don't get yourself carried away. Chris G is out.

Date: Fri Nov 9 11:48
james (one last comment and then I'll disappear from here for a weekend and cut down on Gailer's scrolling, or rather, scolling.):

Heard two people play last night that I found quite impressive. The first act was Malcolm Holcomb, who has a cd out called One Hundred Lies. The second act was great. It was RB Morris. He has a couple of records out, Take That Ride and Zeke and the Wheel. Just throwing it out in case anyone is interested in checking out something new. Also, Blaine, I read the ND article. I'm intrigued by all of the possible influences and comparisons mentioned. I'll be jumping on milesofmusic and checking out the disk. Yes, yes, I know, this is the GIANT SAND board. Anyone wanna tell me about what the Handsome Family sound like? I've got Freakwater comparisons in my head for some reason. Close?Bye, all.

Date: Fri Nov 9 10:30
james (polite deference):

I would think that, yes, it is good, especially with autumn conditions outside (actually it still feels like summer down here), but I would direct any such questions to the block and to no mere chips.

Date: Fri Nov 9 09:43
em (me):

******************************************************************************** rejoice!!! it is friday!! Friday in the fall--I think i've got alittle hat fever too, james--is that a good thing? *****************************************************************

Date: Fri Nov 9 09:00
Tommy Gailer (Bavariamaniac):

Scolling up and down makes me sick...listening to "Unsunglum`s" Bonustracks makes me feel better...but hey, just got Howe`s new tourdates for germany/austria: that made my day!

Date: Fri Nov 9 08:56
patti (again):

Thats portfolio with a T

Date: Fri Nov 9 08:55
Patti (K.):

Rosco, Are you there? After sleeping on my last comment I realized that I was being sensitive and mean. May be your from a different country and porfolio means something different to you.( but then how did you know about the cards I made for his memorial?) My apologies. Rainer's four year anniversary is Monday and these are tricky days for me. Peace out as my kids would say. Patti

Date: Fri Nov 9 08:18
james (be careful, folks. Hats on board.):

Chris G, I'm beginning to believe that this hat problem of yours is contagious. (Don't think that I'm not pleased.)

Date: Fri Nov 9 08:13
Insider-Sand (grouchy??!?!):

Well having sand inside is handy for timing boiled eggs.....

Date: Fri Nov 9 07:32
dan the photo (HATSATND JELLY):

tribute band sounds strange if not stranger. but still dont be grouchy inside sander if i had sand inside i might be too though. went a singin in oxford and at 3am a friend anounced that we were out side johnny greenwoods house. what a life i lead.

Date: Fri Nov 9 00:41
Peter Chang (undersurface):

Well, Chow, just keep looking for that OP8, you'll find it.

Date: Thu Nov 8 22:48
chowyunmat (.):

a one off trip to Japan has yielded me storm, swerve and long stem rant - on sale in hmv! now where to go to get the op8 record.............

Date: Thu Nov 8 16:49
Patti (K.):

Rosco.....thats not nice. Scrap book may-be, "portfolio"? I dont think so.

Date: Thu Nov 8 15:15
james (yesandno):

Blaine, I've got the nov/dec issue at home and I'll check it out. Yes, I've seen the tiny tupelo shack, dwarfed by the gift shop next door. There were a few impersonators, or very serious fans at least, milling about in the parking lot when I was there. Let me know if you come back this way to play. I'm on the email list as well.

Date: Thu Nov 8 14:59
Blaine (@work):

BD, if you got the Rolling Thunder ref, then yup - guess I qualify for fossil-hood. James, yesandno. I do play in a band (Fred Mills wrote an article on us for the new No Depression mag), but the trip was to take my Dad's truck to FL where he bought a home. We tried to balance the Southern scenery w/the musical touchstones on the return. Highlight was seeing Hank Sr. & Gram's suits and Monroe's mando in Nashville at the new museum. Us affluent folks today should see just how tiny Elvis' homeshack in Tupelo really is.

Date: Thu Nov 8 14:40
james (not trying to pry but, well, i guess i am, and post office stuff):

Blaine, back from Nashville? Looks like a tour: Tup, Memph, Nash. You play in a band, or just traveling for business or pleasure? Just wondering. Hate to think that if you played here, I didn't come hear you. Also, to whom it may concern, any speculations about when Unsungglum can be bought with a check through the mails again?

Date: Thu Nov 8 14:20
BD (twinkies and beer for dinner):

Now the Handsome Family of all people have moved to the Southwest(New Mexico I believe) I'm going to check out the space available there as Howe states in the song (the SW that is).Also thanks again Blaine for the Steve Wynn reco. It is superbly stupendous. I'm also not sure I understand your last comment. Are you one of us fossil dudes too?

Date: Thu Nov 8 12:24
james (via pigeon carrion):

So did Kurt Wagner get infected by the outfit-changing thing in London and change his cap?

Date: Thu Nov 8 06:55
wildman (... via carrier pigeon):

hey, seeing as we're all adding reviews, you might want to check www.virginstudent.com on monday-time.... i can vouch for a good review.

Date: Thu Nov 8 02:36
stuart (...):

One more UK press review - surprise, he liked it - Party time in another country From DAILY TELEGRAPH November 8th, 2001 By DAVID SMYTH "IT'S good to know that these things happen on occasion. Perhaps it's because God smiles in tiny moments. Or maybe it's because of my lucky ET belt buckle." Howe Gelb, left-field country singer, multi-instrumentalist and all round wit, was talking about being given the opportunity to perform a sprawling, inspirational concert in the company of many of his favourite musicians. The Barbican's Beyond Nashville festival is currently bringing together swathes of modern, alternative country performers, making British audiences aware that a scene exists which is so far removed from the shiny productions and novelty stetsons of Shania Twain and Garth Brooks, it's hard to believe that most of these people are even from the same part of the galaxy, let alone America. The serene special guest star was recent Mercury Music Prize winner PJ Harvey, whom Gelb introduced as being "from the South West, like us". Harvey is actually from Yeovil, but her electrifying voice instantly broke down any possible cultural barriers. Other guests included Vic Chesnutt, Evan Dando, Mark Linkous from Sparklehorse, Harvey collaborator John Parish and Kurt Wagner from Lambchop. The atmosphere was one of a late-night hoedown back at Howe's joint, with musicians shambling on and off seemingly at random, swapping instruments and clearly having a great time. "I'm busting my buttons to be here," said Chesnutt. It seemed that, if any members of the audience had wandered on stage and picked up a guitar, they would have been welcomed with open arms. Gelb and his band, Giant Sand, accompanied the various soloists, including Dando, who looked as though he had just got out of bed, but lit up the hall with his wry, self-deprecating songs. Wagner and Linkous both had the demeanour of men who had spent the best part of the day felling trees but sang their sensitive compositions like angels. All the setting up and fiddling when new people came on demanded some patience, but, as the audience filed out after three hours to find another alt.country group, the Willard Grant Conspiracy, starting a set in the lobby, no one could carp about not getting value for money. Sometimes it can seem that all modern America offers us musically is angry rappers and furious rap-rockers. Howe Gelb and all his pals are making passionate music for adults that can also contain more angst than Slipknot's entire extended family. At the finale, everybody trooped back on stage, grabbed whatever instrument they could find, and started making a fantastic noise. It was a roadie's nightmare, but a special moment for the rest of us.

Date: Thu Nov 8 02:27
Insider-Sand (why):

No offence meant but what's the point of a tribute band (for Giant Sand or any band)? Especially when the real thing is a alive and kicking? It would be embarassing for all impersonators involved....

Date: Thu Nov 8 01:51
dave meater (midlands):

any one interested in starting a giant sand tributte band?

Date: Wed Nov 7 13:18
james s (lousy time to have a sinister appearance):

Don't let 'em scare the beard off of you, Howe. I decided to grow a beard when all of this spooky lousy time to have a sinister appearance business got started. I still don't look as sinister as you though, durn it.

Date: Wed Nov 7 12:30
Ian (GILLANIAN@aol.com):

According to Glitterhouse Howe has confirmed 3 dates in Austria on 25-26-27 January, I guess if he is in Europe for those some of the rest of us might get lucky. Howe how about doing a show in Scotland on the 28th for my birthday? The Barbican show was the best thing I have seen in a long time, all the sets were too short of course I could have stayed for another 3 hours or longer. In fact I might go as far as to say it's the best thing I have seen since Frank Zappa in 1988. Does anyone know if the material John Parish played on Saturday is available on cd? I didn't really go for it when I heard them at Camden earlier in the year but I think I am converted.

Date: Wed Nov 7 11:14
Blaine Schultz (@work-backfromTupelo/Memph/Nash):

Thanks for all the reviews. Sounds like our generations Thunder just got rolled. Maybe we'll luck out and get a version over here. Blaine

Date: Wed Nov 7 10:58
john (the characters "looking right" and "looking left" are not allowed - the seem like nice looking fellows, wonder what they did to get banned):

just listened to the Steve Wynn track w/ Howe, Sustain, thanks for posting that. As usual, Steve fades out that glorious guitar leaving me wanting more. So different from the one time I was able to hear him play live, with the Dream Syndicate with Paul Cutler - Paul and Steve went at it on and on. Songs? We got electric guitars!! Think I'll listen to Sustain again.

Date: Wed Nov 7 09:26
Insider-Sand (jobless):

If anyone is interested Rough Trade record shops in London have a few copies of Howe's Down Home 2000 for sale....they also have a website with on-line ordering: www.roughtrade.com

Date: Wed Nov 7 08:23
********************* (em):

***************************************** Hi, Howe-glad to hear you've made it back in one piece and that you made it thru your footwear dilemna--write more, howe Mr. howe Gelb..well I'm off but good morning, everyone--happy wednesday--can you believe we're already nearing December??? where'd all the time go? ******************************************

Date: Wed Nov 7 08:07
Chris (G):

Tom, you are a chip off my block! have a hat yourself. And, be it now, in our "world within a world", we've got plenty hats to keep our brains warm.so be it and that's all we need. there.

Date: Wed Nov 7 05:02
erwin (_-):

well dante-h-photo.. care to share the silverware?

Date: Wed Nov 7 03:40
danteh photo (danthephotographer@hotmail):

yes but i met vic chesnutt!!!! life time ambition forfilled saw the sand and took good pictures of chessnutts

Date: Wed Nov 7 03:40
Sean (sean.tracey@btinternet.com):

Whoops , must keep that refresh habit down ! Sorry folks .

Date: Wed Nov 7 03:35
peter (keep it real):

beautiful all ya

Date: Wed Nov 7 03:30
Sean (sean.tracey@btinternet.com):

Howe , the show at the Barbican was the highlite of the year , thanks to everyone for taking part and thanks to you for being such a fine and entertaining host . How many costume changes ? Also it was good to see Mr Dando back and on fine form . Come again soon . Sean.

Date: Wed Nov 7 03:25
Sean (sean.tracey@btinternet.com):

Howe , the show at the Barbican was the highlite of the year , thanks to everyone for taking part and thanks to you for being such a fine and entertaining host . How many costume changes ? Also it was good to see Mr Dando back and on fine form . Come again soon . Sean.

Date: Wed Nov 7 03:10
Sean (sean.tracey@btinternet.com):

Howe , the show at the Barbican was the highlite of the year , thanks to everyone for taking part and thanks to you for being such a fine and entertaining host . How many costume changes ? Also it was good to see Mr Dando back and on fine form . Come again soon . Sean.

Date: Wed Nov 7 02:37
Sean (sean.tracey@btinternet.com):

Howe , the show at the Barbican was the highlite of the year , thanks to everyone for taking part and thanks to you for being such a fine and entertaining host . How many costume changes ? Also it was good to see Mr Dando back and on fine form . Come again soon . Sean.

Date: Tue Nov 6 22:45
howe (home):

hi . the return home always suffers from some form of crinkled time travel. and to boot i was the only one pulled out of line at the terminal gate to be searched ....i think it might be a bad time to be so bearded. i am blessed to have been in such company the last two weeks. i think the most impressive thicket of music was churned up in many a mile from this camp in the duration. oddly, by comparison, i didn't think we played as well as some of he previous gigs prior to the london show...but we were frying on the lumination of cooperation amongst the throng of collaboration. and i was hampered a bit to change into any finery until our set was spun and done....at which time i then very much wanted to show off my respect for the family of guests by a shineyer set of threadings. but the socks had to go.....3 days ol you see....and then the barefootedness seemed to overide the possibility of something going terribly wrong.....like backwhen we opened for poly at the shepard's bush, i doned a brand new set of shoes just before the set that totally fukked me up when i tried to conjure and pedal thru said set. this time i delayed the risk. anyway...my love and thanks to all who managed to manage and provide a world within a world ....even as armored as the sheilding of a soap bubble, against the world we now live in with all of its devices and cringe. to hold forth for those few hours a warmth as impossible as it would have looked on paper, was in itself a moment of savor that seeemed to echo with a volume that wasn't possible in the old world. the only suggestion then, to attempt such recourse when ever possib;le.....to pester the world at large with a smaller one whenever we can. ok then.

Date: Tue Nov 6 17:28
Tom ((happenstanced)):

I am glad to read all of you sandy people. Hats to all of you. HATS !

Date: Tue Nov 6 15:37
PaulK (p.kerr@ntlworld.com):

Well, Unsunglum flew into my lap today, courtesy of Ian (many, many thanks by the way). Odd to hear it in a different sequence with some different tracks, it will take a bit of time to digest the difference. Anyway, the barbican gig sounds even better as the reviews come in, there must be a video of it or some commemoration. Regarding the newspaper reviews, I think that Howe is achieving some kind of superstar status but in his own special way has achieved this without anyone but the Sand family and a precious few others knowing who he is. He is special, but we all know that.

Date: Tue Nov 6 15:29
James (yet again):

upside down at home?? I picture you doing something really impressive, Mike, like typing while standing on your head. I think I'll try it. Don't worry, I won't post the experiment, or anything else, for the rest of the day. I promise.

Date: Tue Nov 6 15:05
james s (das boot):

Norway, I don't own a burner and am not worth much in the boot trade. I'll make a note of the email address in case things change in the future. Glad to have these disks. Sometimes, rarely, sweet blessings just fall into one's lap.

Date: Tue Nov 6 13:37
rosco (silversoupnd@hotmail.com):

Hey Patti K., Got any of those purple funeral announcements with Rainer's photo left? I need one for my portfolio.

Date: Tue Nov 6 13:01
Anders (andersth@bigfoot.com):

PS: Please forgive me if it's considered bad taste to ask for bootlegs in this forum.

Date: Tue Nov 6 12:49
Anders (andersth@bigfoot.com):

Hey James (or anybody else). I'm a big fan of Rainer from Norway, and would love to get my hands on some Rainer boots. I have all his official releases (at least all his solo stuff. Still hunting down some of the rarer stuff). If somebody have some, please e-mail me at AndersTH@bigfoot.com, and see if we could arrange something. I would be very grateful. Anders

Date: Tue Nov 6 12:46
mike (upside down at home now):

Thanks Nuno for the reviews.... I'll be putting up a page with these (and others) on..+ some backstage photo's.

Date: Tue Nov 6 10:25
nuno (damn refresh button...):

if you guys know of any more reviews, they'd be greatly appreciated... it's always interesting to know what the press thinks about fine musical spectacles like saturday's wonderful and eclectic (not to mention rare!) extravaganza. keep 'em coming...

Date: Tue Nov 6 10:18
Nuno (and another one...):

finally, here's what Max Bell from london's "Evening Standard" wrote: "The vogue for themed music festivals can be too academic for the subject matter but London audiences don't seem to mind. Various Meltdowns, the Song's the Thing, Only Connect and the current Beyond Nashville season have all been sucessful exercises in bringing together disparate talents and making them muck in. Saturday's journey towards the twisted alternative heart of country music was as good as this idea gets. A sprawling collision of musicians as styles was overseen by Giant Sand luminary Howe Gelb, the bohemian from Arizona, who acted as compere while guests like Evan Dando, Kurt Wagner and Mark Linkous flirted with the future without losing sight of their American muse. Cosmic beatnik Dando was a revelation in a work shirt. Looking like a cross between Jeff Bridges, Neil Yound and John Fogerty, Dando pulled out My Drug Buddy and his excellent The Outdoor Type ("never had a sleeping bag, let alone a mountain bike") and closed out with his Civil War tune, Wine Coloured Grass. Wagner's burst of non-Lambchop cuts went down just as well, but the more peculiar alternative country moments came when our own West Country girl, PJ Harvey, ghosted on to play with mentor John Parish and his Bristolian band. Dressed down in black and plucking her bass, Harvey's star qualities were evident whenever she caressed the microphone. Despite the noise outside, this was a night for catherine wheels and pretty colours rather than big bangs and damp squibs. And there was hardly a Stetson in sight."

Date: Tue Nov 6 10:17
Nuno (and another one...):

finally, here's what Max Bell from london's "Evening Standard" wrote: "The vogue for themed music festivals can be too academic for the subject matter but London audiences don't seem to mind. Various Meltdowns, the Song's the Thing, Only Connect and the current Beyond Nashville season have all been sucessful exercises in bringing together disparate talents and making them muck in. Saturday's journey towards the twisted alternative heart of country music was as good as this idea gets. A sprawling collision of musicians as styles was overseen by Giant Sand luminary Howe Gelb, the bohemian from Arizona, who acted as compere while guests like Evan Dando, Kurt Wagner and Mark Linkous flirted with the future without losing sight of their American muse. Cosmic beatnik Dando was a revelation in a work shirt. Looking like a cross between Jeff Bridges, Neil Yound and John Fogerty, Dando pulled out My Drug Buddy and his excellent The Outdoor Type ("never had a sleeping bag, let alone a mountain bike") and closed out with his Civil War tune, Wine Coloured Grass. Wagner's burst of non-Lambchop cuts went down just as well, but the more peculiar alternative country moments came when our own West Country girl, PJ Harvey, ghosted on to play with mentor John Parish and his Bristolian band. Dressed down in black and plucking her bass, Harvey's star qualities were evident whenever she caressed the microphone. Despite the noise outside, this was a night for catherine wheels and pretty colours rather than big bangs and damp squibs. And there was hardly a Stetson in sight."

Date: Tue Nov 6 10:04
Nuno (more british press):

no worries, james.... here's what Alexis Petridis from the "guardian" wrote... "Rock heroes rarely come more mysterious than Howe Gelb. sice the early 1980's, the Arizona songwriter and musician has released 30 albums, under a bewildering array of pseudonyms. His band Giant Sand invented their own sub-genre, desert rock: a scorched and spooked sound, evocative of the Arizona landscape. Gelb, meanwhile, has been credited as the godfather of alt-country, the movement which reclaimed country and western from Nashville's syrup and sequins. He can draw an audience of 2,000 to the Barbican, yet his name seldom appears in rock encyclopedias and even the internet yelds no biographical details. Hosting an evening of leftfield US songwriters, the bearded Gelb cuts an enigmatic figure. Between each performer, he changes his shirt and unleashes abrupt bursts of music from a CD player: Hank Williams, the haunting blues of Giant Sand's late guitarist Rainer Ptacek. For reasons unexplained, a woman with skull face-paint sits onstage, holding a bunch of gladioli. Gelb's own set is captivating and wildly esoteric, jumping from a screeching cover of LA punk band X's Johnny Hit and Run Pauline to tinkling piano instrumentals recognisable as the kind of music that stops playing when the villain walks into the saloon in the old cowboy films. Of his guests, Sparklehorse's Mark Linkous draws the loudest cheers with spectacularly desolate versions of Eyepennies and Homecoming Queen, but the most surprising is former Lemonheads frontman Evan Dando. An early 1990s indie pin-up before drug problems derailed his career, he plays stark versions of old Lemonheads tracks like My Drug Buddy - but his new, country-inflected material is revelatory. Outdoor type is warm and funny, the closing Wine Coloured Grass a lovely two-line lament. Lambchop frontman Kurt Wagner performs with Vic Chestnut. Wagner's meditations on the everyday are perfectly complemented by Chestnut's dry wit. For all the mystic aura surrounding its host, the evening boasts a generously fraternal atmosphere. The musicians share a bottle of wine between songs while Polly Harvey is less special guest than all-purpose helper: she operates a shortwave radio during Gelb's set, plays bass with John Parish's Big Band and duets with Linkous. The warmth emanating from the stage pervades the audience. "thank-you for coming", smiles Gelb at the end. "No, Howe!" shrieks a voice. "Thank-you"

Date: Tue Nov 6 08:16
james s (gracias gracias):

thanks for sharing the press Nuno. Enjoyed reading it.

Date: Tue Nov 6 08:00
Nuno (still astonished...):

yeap, nothing to add, really...oh, what happened to "cracklin' water" and "left"?... they'd have been perfect for the ocasion. maybe next time. "sage advice" was truly awesome to listen live for the first time. txs guys... by the way, here's what the "independent" newspaper in london had to say: Howe Gelb & Friends (Upside Down Home), Barbican, London What a guy Review by Fiona Sturges 06 November 2001 At the final count, when all the performers had been invited back at the end of the night for what our host, the Tucson-based songwriter Howe Gelb, called a "grand ole opry", there were 16 people on stage. These included Lambchop's Kurt Wagner, the multi-instrumentalist and producer John Parish, Vic Chesnutt, Mark Linkous from Sparklehorse, Calexico's John Convertino and Joey Burns, the former Lemonhead Evan Dando and, starriest of all, PJ Harvey. Then there was the mysterious woman with the Hallowe'en face-paint whose tasks included laying flowers around the stage and taking photos of the audience. Sometimes, even musicians need souvenirs. It's hard to imagine this second instalment of the Beyond Nashville festival being bettered in the next week. This has to be the first time the UK has seen so many alt-country luminaries gathered under one roof. What's more, it's not often that an audience will sit through three and a half hours of music without complaint. Howe Gelb is one of the more enigmatic figures in this exciting if ill-defined genre. By no means a household name, he has been the driving force behind a number of bands, from Giant Sand and OP8 to the French-Arizonian outfit ABBC, and, over the last two decades, has put out around 30 albums. The first ramshackle set came from Gelb himself, his weathered baritone beautifully set alongside Giant Sand's beautiful instrumentals – piano, violins, double bass and all manner of percussive twitching. PJ Harvey, introduced by Gelb simply as "our friend from the West Country", emerged to play a raucous cover of "Johnny Hit and Run Pauline", and later joined Mark Linkous, hunched and grumpy, for a magical version of Sparklehorse's "Homecoming Queen". A cheer went up as Evan Dando shuffled on to play a pared-down, acoustic version of the Lemonheads' "My Drug Buddy". This was followed by some pensive new material, all of which bodes well for next year's solo album. Vic Chesnutt's excitement at being invited was palpable. "I'm busting my buttons over here," he laughed before performing a terrific duet with Kurt Wagner. Despite the lofty surroundings, the atmosphere was cosy, as if all 2,000 of us were at a rehearsal rather than a performance. Keen not to miss a thing, one man in the audience shouted, "Have I got time to get a beer?" "I couldn't guarantee it," replied our smiling host. There were countless great moments – John Parish's intoxicating post-rock instrumentals, a lively jazz encore performed by Gelb, John Convertino and Joey Burns, and Gelb's many wardrobe changes, most of which took place on stage rather than off. What a guy.

Date: Tue Nov 6 07:34
daniel p (danthephotographer@hotmail,com):

what a weekend finish mixing my chemicals on thursday work all night cleaning offics and the bus to london on friday get to hotel as booked by most loving girlfriend. then rush to train station to meet as for mentioned sweet thing rush back hotel and then get in taxi to go to Garage. watch mr chesnuttts beautiful set and drink heartily then walk backstage to hopefully meet some one as venune had emptyed pretty quickly meet Mr wagner and lovley wife and mr Chesnutt and lovley wife talk for hours about what all i can remeber i was given acsess to the back stage beer, was that i tried to teach mr chesnutt ring a ring of roses and nellie the elephant. wondered where you were mr gelb in bed resting but it was worth the rest by sat nights per. fell out of garage with girlfriend pulling ear waved my good bye and disserpered into the sad night. still cant belive it. aslo next night arrived at barbican with claire the as a for mentioned but un named lady friend. giant sand played which made my life and they played sage advice oh oho oho ho. love you all thanks to your thanks. lots of love dan

Date: Tue Nov 6 07:29
em (%%%%):

********************************* morning everyone--hope it's a glorious day for each of you *********************************

Date: Tue Nov 6 05:18
tucson (...):

Yes, Calexico @ Hazmat Gallery, Tucson, AZ on sat 11-10

Date: Mon Nov 5 20:32
geoff (swervepictures):

...sounds like it was quite a show....and speaking of show, my travels bring me out to AZ this week...any chance of a Giant Sand/Calexico/Howe show going on around town?

Date: Mon Nov 5 18:40
james s (not again):

ok, ok! Yeah, I know, the dreaded REFRESH button strikes again. and again. Ha.

Date: Mon Nov 5 17:09
Colin LaRussa (theu2freak@yahoo.com):

Yeah don't worry, it was the diet coke ad.

Date: Mon Nov 5 17:07
Tom (( barbicanned in belgium)):

I stepped out of a wobbly boat yesterday night, knowing that I had had my best weekend this weird sunny fearful foggy year. London was happenstance, thanks to Howe,Joey, Mr. John Convertino and all other wonderful musicians.It was good to see, feel and hear the inner flame.

Date: Mon Nov 5 16:46
poot (The odd beauty of Grocery Store Muzak):

One of the chain grocery outlets in my town always played bad instrumental versions of old pop songs. Each piece was horribly arranged, with plenty of horns, and loungey drums. My favorite song they did was "Sloop John B," the beach boys version. The irony of taking a song from a group that known mostly for their vocal harmonies, removing the voices completly, and replacing them with a french horn and trombone was too much. I was giggling all the way out the door. I could definetly stand to hear 'Bible Black' with tuba and trumpet a few years down the road. Love, Poot

Date: Mon Nov 5 16:42
Colin LaRussa (theu2freak@yahoo.com):

Yeah don't worry, it was the diet coke ad.

Date: Mon Nov 5 16:31
m (***):

*******you said it*******:)

Date: Mon Nov 5 16:02
am (I):

em-I love that feeling, when you're in a store and what used to be white noise suddenly jumps up to the forefront of your conciousness cuz it's your favorite America song or something and you're left grinning at the frozen peas....

Date: Mon Nov 5 15:04
e (m):

ooh--shiver pop--I like that:)

Date: Mon Nov 5 15:03
emme (monday morning blues again):

******************************** hello each and everyone. I just saw the sexy grocerie store dad commercial again too--I think it's a nice suprise every now and then(if you're silly like me and watch tv)--it's like having a really crappy day and walking into a store or something and hearing a song you hadn't expected--ah well I am off--it is cold as cold can be in the city that is new york--when's howe coming to warm it up alittle??? it's high time i'd say:)later. *******************************************

Date: Mon Nov 5 14:56
james s (shiver pop):

Colin, was it a diet coke commercial of a guy in a grocery store? That thing still around? Didn't think I'd ever see it as I have no TV. I was in a hotel in Kentucky and I turned on the tube and there it was. Now the grocery store image invades my mind on the instrumental sections of Shiver. Not passing judgements on anyone who would want to use the song in an ad, just expressing annoyance about having my Shiver consciousness invaded. I like my favorite songs to have personal and good associations. Commercials and music videos just mess things up for me, and they stick. Yes, I know, this is an old and worn out topic. Just want to be sure that Colin saw the same ad that I did a while back. If there's a new one, I'm going to stay away from all TVs for a long time.

Date: Mon Nov 5 14:49
beggin (***):

And simply put, how about a US Giant Sand tour.. At least here in Northern AZ!

Date: Mon Nov 5 14:26
BD ((+)):

Seems all the good stuff happens overseas. I think I will move to the UK so I can witness a show like that. I'm wondering if us Americans need to do more in order to witness a show of the magnitude of the Barbican show. I also picked up the Steve Wynn disc mentioned earlier by you kind folks and it is really good. Many times better than "Days of Wine and Roses". That Freaks song (the full title escapes me)is a truly excellent song. Howe's all over it.

Date: Mon Nov 5 10:52
james s (slither pop):

congrats to any Diamondback fans over yonder in sand land. Sorry I missed the Barb show. I think the next "beyond nashville" show featuring Gelb & friends should be IN Nashville. Bring over Victoria Williams. You have Lucinda and D Jarvis here. You've got Kurt and the Chop gang here. Oh well, anyway...

Date: Mon Nov 5 10:42
matt (my h@):

i just want to add to the chorus of praise. a truely wanderful evening (and that opera singing Howe!!! excellent!!! hahahaha!)

Date: Mon Nov 5 05:45
stuart (at work just about):

To join the consensus, the Barbican show was indeed a rare treat, beautifully hosted by Howe in a most disarming way. The big band version of Sand that had been assembled did a most wonderful job. The yearning rendition of "You Can't Put Your Arms Around a Memory", bookended by Howe playing "America the Beautiful" on the Steinway, was lovely. If you did it off the back of the request Howe then I'm very grateful. I really enjoyed Evan's set, it was happy/sad to hear his solo "My Drug Buddy" given the times he's had and it made a great sequence with the 2 new songs (Sand-backed) that came next - one with a chorus along the lines of "Why do you hurt yourself" and one a list song in a away of "these are my teeth, this is my nose" etc opening out to wider imagery of sea and sky then a lovely chorus which I simply can't recall (there was a great deal to store in there on the night). Then he finished with a simple song, really just a fragment, of "laying down in the wine coloured grass" which (after the performance) he told us was a civil war song. Howe added some stunningly beautiful guitar work on this one, really lifting it. The crowd were maybe too well behaved - surely a result of the staid venue and maybe the number of people for whom this was the first time they had witnessed Howe and friends in action, but the payoff in terms of location were the great acoustics and the simple treat of being part of a 2,000 strong audience enjoying and appreciating the very special music.

Date: Mon Nov 5 03:06
Martin (martin_horsfield@ipcmedia.com):

Can I be the first to lead the campaign to have the Barbican show made into a live album? It was a truly special evening. Only the appearance of Victoria Williams, as at Howe and Rainer's Borderline show many years ago, could have made it any more magical. Mark Linkous and Vic Chesnutt were amazing, and that's the most 'together' line-up of the Sand ever assembled.

Date: Mon Nov 5 00:55
Adrian (underthesurface):

Oh yes, the unreleased Rainer stuff Howe kept playing during the Barbican show was really wonderful, toweringly beautiful in context in fact, esp. a studio version of 'The Farm'...any idea anyone when it's getting official release?

Date: Sun Nov 4 22:25
Colin LaRussa (theu2freak@yahoo.com):

Well, here I am in Oregon, and the last thing I thought I was going to hear on a TV commercial was a Giant Sand song....it was really cool to hear you guys, even if only for thirty seconds. Talk soon...

Date: Sun Nov 4 16:53
paulk (p.kerr@ntlworld.com):

Were Howe and the boys on Robert Elms Radio London show on Saturday? The Barbican sure sounds good, I should get out more. Paul

Date: Sun Nov 4 14:21
(((emme))) (((()))):

********************************************************* aww, Patti-that's really sweet of you--Hi to you too:) I am looming..sounds like some awesome performances...I am jealous as can be but can't wait to see a little howe magic of my own..well I'm off now. Hope you all are staying happy..I watched the tail end of the ny marathon today which was basically old people holding hands and power walking so I'm inspired.******** *****************************************************************

Date: Sun Nov 4 12:51
James (@blinkenlight.org):

I wonder whether Howe had it recorded? It was quite perfect in the end, really wonderful to see people smiling and having fun trying things out. From PJ playing radio noise to Vic playing Danny Carlisle for the people who called out to him on Friday night. The Mark Linkous and PJ duets were really bewitching, and the Sand sounded amazing. And then the finale....I think I'd have paid my money just to listen to Rainer's CDs in there, the sound was too wonderful...But to have some songs too...I just hope that the TV camera was rolling and that a similar spectacle rolls on into town next November. Many thanks Howe...Oh yes, and just why did you keep getting changed? Building up from jeans and tshirt, through suit and tie and back down to casual for cocktail lounge finale?

Date: Sun Nov 4 11:52
Mitch (cello in the ruins):

Adrian, thanks for that. My god, it sounds like it was an amazing show. You lucky lucky people who got to attend! By the way, I made a major goober yesterday and missed Jim Blackwood's radio event (had it in my head that it was 3pm to 6pm, rather than 3am to 6am--ERGH!). Is there anyone in Tucson who possibly taped the show and could make me a copy, or--Archivist Jim--will you be making it available through the KXCI page? Thanks, Mitch

Date: Sun Nov 4 11:50
Patti (K.):

Adrian, thanks for your account of the Barbican.....It was almost like being there. Sounded like a high time on the planet earth. Go Howe. Now come on home. The weather is finally changing and the wind is kicking up. Hi Emme.

Date: Sun Nov 4 08:39
james (gracias gracias):

thanx archivist dude.

Date: Sun Nov 4 05:56
Adrian (UTS):

Sorry for all the typos below!

Date: Sun Nov 4 03:13
Adrian (underthesurface):

Okay just so I write my thoughts for posterity, here's Howe it happened at the Barbican (excuse any errors in memory there was son much to take in). So what happened? A seven-piece Giant Sand (featuring; John/Joey, violin, backing singers) came on first and played a lush and all too short 45 min set of Giant Sand songs (Spun, Seldom Matters,Shiver.etc.) and a couple of covers inc. Johnny Thunders' 'You Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory' .... Polly Harvey joined towards the end of that bit for Johnny Hit & Run Pauline (as she does on the covers album....that was all great enough to make the night worthwhile...then...Then Giant Sand went off....Evan Dando came on to play solo acoustic. A few new songs and a couple of Lemonheads songs inc. Outdoor Type and My Drug Buddy...then Giant Sand came back on to back Evan up on some lovely country-tinged songs....sweet....Then they went off again.... Kurt 'Lambchop' Wagner and Vic Chessnutt came on together... sang/played each other songs (Vic was sounding particularly great) ...then Giant Sand came back on and backed them up too (lord knows how they managed to sound so seamless)...Then the interval....time to reflect on the wonder...Then John Parish came on with his 10-odd piece band (inc. at least 5 guitarists!!) they did this avant-garde instrumental a la Low/Dirty 3, a slow-woozy song with Polly on vocals and then a horn-led guitat heavy soaring upbeat instrumental...excellent too...Then some of John Parish's band and Polly became Mark 'Sparklehorse' Linkous backing band for three gorgeous slow Sparklehorse songs with loads of violin....beautiful.. Then Giant Sand came back on for a short set that concluded with brilliant versions of Rainer Ptacek songs -Inner Flame and then Losing Ground with pratically EVERYONE bar a couple of John Parish's guitarists came back .... creating this enormous lush and joyful sound...it was amazing by no mistake... And then as a encore a four-piece Giant Sand played a lovely jazz-coacktail thing to see us off....sublime...And I was sat right in the front row trying to pick my jaw off the floor...Awesome isn't quite the word...genius is most apt....Phew...thanks everyone who made this happen! It was a very special night indeed.

Date: Sun Nov 4 02:14
Adrian (More than astonished):

Last night Giant Sand and their many friends played out the gig of my life. I'm not being biased here - it really was a very special night. I'll tell you more later (maybe) once I recovered from the wonder and the magic.... Eternal thanks HOWE + CO!!!

Date: Fri Nov 2 19:10
Archivist Dude (archive@giantsand.com):

Verification on those Rainer Cds in question: 4-16-97 is from The Valley of the Moon in Tucson AZ; live show recorded by an ex-dj of KXCI - and 6-9-97 is the Live at The Perfromance Center release (an official one)...

Date: Fri Nov 2 14:12
mike (now home....on a Friday night again!!):

Novmber One, Brighton/Hove... the Mexican Day of the Dead.... and walking to the show you'd think exactly that, judging by the people in the street. The Old Market....very clean.... very polite. Joe's just back from the hospital with an ever increasing septic bite on his leg.... either dreaded brown from Tucson or worse from Newcastle. The band are now a seven piece....Howe, John, Joe joined with Saholy (guitar) and Laureline (electric bass)...and also Susan Voelz (violin - she don't fiddle - from [past]Poi Dog Pondering) and Noah Thompson(? - trumpet and conch....[brass in Giant Sand??????] from Tucson based band.....sorry Noah, forgot the name). Rainer opened up...as he should... followed by Sage Advice (just one of the best Sand songs), followed by Crackling Water, Seldom Matters... then a new, very jazzy rendition, detailing the exploits of attending a Grandaddy show, called Jason, then BMG... an almost missed Bible Black instrumental, then Shiver followed by a new song in the vein of Loving Cup but more astronomical....then the Beat Goes On (good choice Saholy), ending with a patriotic, almost barroom, version of You Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory. Encore....hmmm another new one, that somehow made me think of Ummagumma-time Pink Floyd(?).... unfortunately the battery ran out on the minidisc... so can't be more accurate. Afterwards, everyone's pretty up.... even Joe's looking better... plenty of smiles in the dressing room (which are very clean) .... and all looking forward to Saturday. See you there.... you'll enjoy it.

Date: Fri Nov 2 13:56
james (bak bak no jingle):

thanks patti. hope all you old-worlders are enjoying the GS shows, lucky folks. If I were not so poor and chicken....

Date: Fri Nov 2 13:34
Patti K. (Diamondback country):

James.....what can I say, there are soooo many bootlegs out there. Thats the reason Rainer put out D.Y.O (boot) Do your own boot years ago. At this point though, I am happy to know that his music is out there regardless of how it gets there. Hell, none of his stuff has ever been released here in the states as Ive said befor. Im not sure what you have James but the second one you mentioned is the LIVE recording done the night befor his 46th birthday and 5 months befor he left for the great beyond. I hope you like it. Its very special to us as you can imagine. Hi to all of you. Happy November. Patti

Date: Fri Nov 2 06:23
Archivist (archive@giantsand.com):

Well, had to do it... Added another track to the Archive section.. A special song from Rainer + Howe's tour as a duo in 1994....! See ya later! Enjoy!

Date: Fri Nov 2 06:12
Sandpit (somewhere):

A reliable source says a certain Mercury Music Prize-winning lady will be the "the very special guest" at the Howe show. It could be gig of the year. Shhh...

Date: Fri Nov 2 05:35
Adrian ((underthesurface)):

My friend in Leicester had this to say about Giant Sand in Leicester: "Monsieur Gelb was just shy of genius.....it was such a great gig. He played jazz (Davis), country (Williams), You Can't Put Your Arms Around a Memory (Johnny Thunders) and about 5 of his own songs, then proceeded to make a couple of gems up on the spot. There were seven of them in all; John&Joey, trumpet, violin, & extra guitar & bass & backing vocals from two crazy French ladies. You are in for a rare treat of an evening...savour." Blimey can't wait to the Barbican can you lot out there?!!

Date: Fri Nov 2 01:53
tHom (tdoria@execsoft.co.uk):

If anyone reading this can use a free ticket to the barbican show on saturday night then let me know at the address above in the next six hours (by 3:30pm uk time). I have a spare (stood up as usual) and I'm not a tout, so it's going for free on a first come, first served basis.

Date: Thu Nov 1 18:14
Mitch (a pause, a bow, a tender piece of bean curd):

Nice going, Jim! Great addition. Thank ye.

Date: Thu Nov 1 18:07
d (ferf):

seen as though the sand are in england would anyone know if there hopping across the water to ireland too??????????

Date: Thu Nov 1 17:12
erwin (across the waters):

jim b -- beautiful! more of that would be most wonderful..

Date: Thu Nov 1 15:59
archivist (archive@giantsand.com):

Hey all - in prep for my radio show on Sat AM (as mentioned below, I have updated the Archive section of this website and added a new song in the GiantStream sub-section - from last spring at the benefit for KXCI at Solar Culture. High bandwidth and low bandwith versions avaliable! Glad everyone is enjoying the music these days! Adios for now....

Date: Thu Nov 1 15:23
Denis Copeland (den@asteroid.f9.co.uk):

Just got home from Sand in Newcastle and Leicester. Top events, full seven piece band. Noah's trumpet certainly adds a jazzy direction to alot of the jamming. 2 nights, 2 completely differnt sets. Newcastle more rocky. Lovely Blue Marble Girl, and fantastic Johnny Thunders cover. If anyone's going to London, you will have one hell of a show! Enjoy

Date: Thu Nov 1 14:07
Rob Stanier (Robtstanier@aol.com):

Well popped my Giant Sand cherry last night after witnessing Howe and friends for the 1st time in Leicester UK. Venue was nice and intimate, a little like being in your front room. Equal wonderful amounts of Guitar & Walkman. Many Thanks to all concerned with the gig especially Ian from Magic Teapot. Best Wishes Howe for the rest of the tour and thankyou. Rob.

Date: Thu Nov 1 13:47
james (ps):

Let me also say that the ethical problem of accepting pirated copies of "official" releases, esp in a case like this when I know where the money should be going,is not lost on me. That's one reason why I want to know what this is. If this is an "official" release, I'd rather just buy it from the Rainer site and get the artwork and such. If it's not released, well then, I'm mighty glad to have it. Know what I mean?

Date: Thu Nov 1 13:04
james (s):

I've tried to email Patti direct about this three times, but the messages keep bouncing back. I'll go this route. A guy who knows I'm a Sand freak calls me up and tells me someone gave him some live CDRs of Rainer and wants to know if I want them. YES, I say. There's very little info provided by whoever burned these things. There are three. One says, "Rainer 4-16-97." The other two, parts one and two, say, "Rainer 6-9-97." They are good quality live recordings. Does anyone know if these are copies someone has made of some "official" releases, or if they are "bootlegs", or any info about these at all??? This is the first Rainer I've heard.

Date: Thu Nov 1 11:16
BD (sittin on a 5 gallon bucket):

Things should be getting started in swinging England in just a bit. Wishing I was there in the audience for the action.

Date: Thu Nov 1 08:39
mike (work.....prior to going to Brighton):

Yes Matt - it was released on Epiphany Records.... but quite limited.

Date: Thu Nov 1 02:02
matt (chowyunmat):

i've just seen the bootleg series one for sale on a cd website - anyone know if this was released commercially?

Date: Wed Oct 31 15:09
d (enzio):

cheers james for the sandman cd's time check, just wondering!

Date: Wed Oct 31 10:28
e (mm):

************************************************* happy halloween everyone--things creepy enough for ya'??? later, em***********************************************

Date: Wed Oct 31 09:52
jpr (hamburg):

yep, wynns's 'here come the miracles' is a great album. go get it. but if you're a po' boy or gal and can't afford it, listen to howe feed his amp here: http://www.stevewynn.net/mp3/solo/Steve_Wynn__Sustain.mp3 and: if you're in europe, go see steve and the miracle 3 live. chris cacavas is opening and playing keyboards. saw them on monday and am still smiling, warmed by a very energetic show.

Date: Wed Oct 31 08:57
james (he was an ordinary guy, like you or me.... until lately!):

I'll second Blaine's recommendation of the newish double cd Steve Wynn. And.... if you want to hear Steve Wynn do plenty of nice damage (oh, those screeching screaming scratching guitars) get the Dream Sydicate's Days of Wine and Roses reissue. If you haven't heard it, or haven't heard it since your vinyl wore out 73 years ago, get this reissue. Despite its obvious influences (VU!), it remains as fresh and edgy today as it was, what, nearly twenty years ago? Can't say much on the Glum thread, as I STILL HAVEN'T HEARD IT, but on a positive note, my very un-guitar copy of Lull came in yesterday.

Date: Wed Oct 31 07:54
Blaine (@work):

...if you need a gtr fix, Howe does some nice damage to a few tunes on the recent Steve Wynn alb. And who knows maybe he'll make like a hOrnette and take up violin just to re-redefine. I'm with yr consensus on Glum, esp Yer Ropes. Blaine

Date: Tue Oct 30 19:14
Mitch (onibaba):

Well, from my end of things the sound sculpting with the guitar is hardly a thing of the past. Most recent shows I've seen with Howe--Sand, solo, and otherwise--have had those guit-orious moments. But seems the painting of electric sounds is done now to greater effect (affect) by being used at the right moments rather than the continuous assault method. Sometimes one brilliant streak of red in a tangle of mostly darks and blues makes a more vivid impression than--well--a streak of red in a mess of red. A-course, I love the Walkman samples, as it works even sometimes when it doesn't--and I don't quite see it anywhere in the same vein as "foo-foo" electronica. But that's my take.

Date: Tue Oct 30 17:11
kf (recall and seven):

i'm a glum-aholic like no bodies buisness....i'd say one of the best music puttin togethers ever....the set.....the first 5 songs in a perfect row.....like its beatin down the door to get in. but! walkman annoyances? that stuff is so excellent....and only howe does it in such a way thats both beautiful and so impactful. i do miss the ear hurting glum guitar.....big and nasty..... the rank and roll......but history repeats itself.....i'm sure howes still got it in him.....just put on satelite.

Date: Tue Oct 30 16:03
BD ((!:):

Did I here Howe correctly in that a new GS disc is coming out before XMAS. Glum is the greatest sand and guitar album till the chore and rock opera years arrived. Mine has pretty much had the varnish worn off so, which means unslumglum the only alternative. And besides the order of songs on the original was excellent to begin with. "You can't repaint a masterpiece" is what Van Gogh stated to Gauguin.The best thing about Glum is that it doesn't have all the weird Walkman annoyances. Just straight ahead musicians playing real instruments. And I'll say it right here it's a Dang shame that Howe has all but quit playing those fantastic guitar brilliances. The man is a genuis with that big red guitar. All that european electronic foo foo stuff kind of wears thin. I have been waiting to see Howe pick up the electric guitar again and hope that if GS tours they kick out the jams like oldtimes for oldtimers. Just like MR. Gelb.

Date: Tue Oct 30 10:46
Emanuele (EJCACC@aol.com):

As far as I'm concerned...In the case of non commercial artists such as Howe...I would gladly buy 10 cd's of the same album with one previously unreleased track on each...It keeps money they deserve and need coming their way....Emanuele

Date: Tue Oct 30 10:12
james (NOTE: The characters 'e' and 'i' are not allowed):

Archivist, here is what you need to get done. 100, at least, individual CDs of outtakes and rarities, each with it's own artwork and clever little title, released to the sandman tree so that we can all become GS archivists. Could you take care of that by no later than December 18? Thanks. But on a serious note, or somewhat, the 'spanish for gringos' track on Juxtaposition is one of the good reasons for living.

Date: Tue Oct 30 09:34
peter s. (archivit's masterplan):

ok, ok,... didn't want to interfere with anyones plans for releases ... looking forward for that 100 CD-Box (already starting to save money for that)

Date: Tue Oct 30 08:56
Archivist (archive@giantsand.com):

What about a 100 cd set of various outtakes? Or perhaps a 20 cd set of Glum sessions, remixes and the like...? ok, ok - just kidding, however I really don't think a 2 cd set would do justice for what is there - considering how many albums/cds that Giant Sand has released over the years. The 4 tracks added to Unsungglum really do fit in nicely and were certainly part of the original sessions as well as performed live at the time. My favorite is Occupy - really great... The order has been rearranged to fit in the new material and recapture some of the ideas that went into Glum in the first place. So, I have the original Glum for the CD liner notes (wow) and Unsungglum for the new formulation (wow indeed)!

Date: Tue Oct 30 08:07
emme (**peter's grand plan***):

morning--hey good idea, peter--I agree fullheartedley with ya' and would buy it for sure. ooh-that'd be great-it's hard to keep up with all the extra stuff, so that'd be perfect:)hope it's considered--maybe even some yet unreleased stuff could be added-then it'd be extra great. well I'm off. have a wonderous day. ***************************************************************************

Date: Tue Oct 30 06:50
danthephoto (fishcake@myhouse):

them bone them bones them dry bones my love as ever dan xxx ps cant wait till sat

Date: Tue Oct 30 00:56
Guni ((who sure)):

...would love to have one of these!

Date: Mon Oct 29 18:32
tom (::::::::////):

very good point peter s.

Date: Mon Oct 29 17:50
peter s. (....bonustracks....):

......... I guess, sure it's worth buying the CD because of them four tracks but quite frankly - I've been collecting vinyl all my life and since CD's arrived I could buy almost any record again just because of one or two additional tracks that didn't make it onto the original vinyl in first place (and now this is happeneing with CD-releases again) ......... it's a bummer because it means: ......... #1: re-investing money and in records I already know (at least 90% of the CD re-release) but there's so much new music to hear ......... #2: tracks that didn't make it on the original release scarecely fit to the rest of the album because in most cases it's just crappy live material or outtakes in the very sense of the word - tracks that should better have stayed in the musical trash bin forever ......... #3: are tracks that although are worth listening to - but do not fit to the rest of the album at all ......... Just for old fans' and collector's sake - wouldn't it be possible to put all the extra tracks that giant sand has released over the years on one cd, so that one does not have to buy every single album twice ......... and such a colection of extra tracks would be fascinating, 'cause thre'd be no coherence anyway ......... (I guess there should be enough material to make it a double, at least with some extra tracks) ......... a collection of the uncollected ......... hmmm??? anyone else who'd like one of those?????

Date: Mon Oct 29 17:24
peter s. (homebased):

hi all, here again @1:43 a.m. ....another deadline that sticks me to my pc ...a question: has anyone heared the bonus tracks on unsungglum? is it worth buying the cd just because of those four tracks?

Date: Mon Oct 29 14:38
Bert van de Kamp (bvdk@home.nl):

Just to add to the praise: GS at CB Amsterdam was absolutely smashing. A profound musical statement as well as a lot of fun! Met John en Joe afterwards, missed Howe. So hi and thanx, mate!

Date: Mon Oct 29 13:11
em (mm):

********************************* I'm up for dipshit-stoner babble anyday! I've been waiting for the quine thingies for sooo long-- can't wait to have it:)bye all *****************************************

Date: Mon Oct 29 12:55
Blaine (@work):

James (and everyone) - The Velvets box is 3 cds of material recorded by Robt Quine in SF and StLou in 1969 (then a college student, later a Reed gtr foil). If you are a fan of the 1969 alb, this is just as good. Some may gripe about the lo-mid-fi, but I love it. Interesting takes on Venus in Furs, more defined r&b influences, 2 Mo Tucker vox, 3 takes on SisRay (incl a 38m version that is near-stunning), and an extension on Ride Into the Sun that hints at what Television would become. Only down fall is some dipshit-stoner babble by Lou. Overall if you love the the sound of great gtr bands -- natch, if you are here already -- this is a nice addition to the Velvets cannon. I pre-mailordered mine via Universal and it was surprisingly cheap. ... not that you can put a price on this stuff. Blaine

Date: Mon Oct 29 10:28
james (Oh sweet nothing):

Blaine, what is this new Velvet's box??? Is it the live thing I've heard something about? Anything new for the fan who has the 4 studio records, VU, and live 69?

Date: Mon Oct 29 09:22
m (***):

oh and hi, Blaine at work--you've got the Quine tapes?? I can't find them anywhere, though they're supposedly everywhere in ny--and let's see--highlights? you could probably find samples on amazon or some such place but my favorite parts are--let us see..Keb'Mo' covers I'm so lonesome I could cry which is awesome and Bob Dylan does 'I can't get you off of my mind' in a very adorable buddy holly like manner--he seems more and more just out to enjoy life these days--all those years of soul searching for answers and maybe he's finally got it, eh? anyway, Keith Richards' 'You Win Again' is suprisingly maybe the best track--it's slow and simmerey and R and B-ish. others are HAnk the third, mr. tom petty, Sherl Crow, Johnny CAsh, MArk Knopfer. If you've seem ryan adams live, you've seen him do Lovesick Blues which is a quarky and great version and on there and of course emmylou harris--a beautiful version of Alone and forsaken and-oh-Lucinda Williams an amazing and touching and very very authentic Cold, Cold Heart. so that's it. to class I must go. hOpe 'twas helpful in some little way:)take care each and every sand fan(and howe and his happily expanding family too) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Date: Mon Oct 29 09:03
e (m):

*************************************************************** woke up this morning woke up this morning woke up this morning with the monday morning blues- yeah! *************************************************************************

Date: Mon Oct 29 08:59
Blaine (@work):

RE: Music -- just finished the new Velvets box, Paul K & the Prayer's "Cycles" and 3 new Townes cds waiting here this morning -- I'm broke but happy. Also, was out of town and missed Dylan last night -- but Em, can you give us the highlights of the Hank alb? Thanks, Blaine

Date: Sun Oct 28 17:37
Tom ((bxl)):

Just saw Howe and his band play Crossing Border in Brussels. Jazzy, methodicaly confused, with Howe having great fun with record/replay equipment. Mr John Convertino is an incredible drummer, by the way. Unsunglum was for sale after the gig. The band are going to take a day of tomorrow, so no monday show in sight, i'm afraid. It was kind of weird, hearing two versions of 'Wayfaring Stranger' on the same night, first played by David Eugene Edwards and later on by Howe. I'm still not sure which version I liked best. Anyway, i had a good day, hope that it has been a good day for all of you.

Date: Sun Oct 28 17:00
paulk (glasgow):

Any news on a replacement gig for Monday night?

Date: Sun Oct 28 13:05
james (s):

D, it according to how long it takes your branch to get em copied and back out in the mails to you. My branch was on it pretty quickly. Took, I guess, about a week and a half from the time I put the blanks in the mail.

Date: Sun Oct 28 10:10
Mitch (external forces):

James, I'd say Decades, Dylan, Sandman, and Lambchop make for a downright perfect day.

Date: Sun Oct 28 09:31
richie (belated congrats):

Congratulation Howe on another year and a further addition. Not sure if you have any children already but the gift of unconditional love is truly one of lifes great blessings......i look forward to any inspiration that comes forth. Sand in newcastle and the barbican next weekend i'll need to stockpile the memories ! Any regular posters around in the bar wear a funny hat and lets share a drink to the good things in this crazy world !!!!!! take care

Date: Sun Oct 28 08:38
d (rgerg):

does any one know if giant sand are coming to Ireland at all?

Date: Sun Oct 28 08:12
d (haon doh trí):

James: Just wondering how long it took to get the sadman cd's ?

Date: Sun Oct 28 06:05
jp (jp.steen@wxs.nl):

Giant Sand started their tour yesterday at crossing border festival. Enthusiastic audience. Good music. Lot of jazzy stuff, which i didn't recognize with howe at the piano and weird samples between the songs. But also "You Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory", "No Reply", "Shiver", A medley starting with "Wayfaring Stranger" and (a request from the audience) "Crackling Water". Giant Sand seemed to enjoy playing and improvising and (that's the problem with festivals) the gig was too short. M Ward played later that evening an impressive gig with his two headed band. Absolutely an amazing guitar-player and songwriter. But. No selling of UNSUNGGLUM at the crossing border festival. And I'm still waiting for my order of two cd's that i'd taken from OW OM Recordings. So, is it reliable to order or not?

Date: Sat Oct 27 21:23
james (s):

It's been a good day for music for me. Two packages in the mail - one being Jux and Atlantic Sessions from the sandman, the other being Decade (thanks Patti) and the Dylan bootleg 1-3 (thanks caveman), and then this evening live Lambchop at the Slow Bar. Just had to share my good fortune. Hope all is well with all this weekend. Boo!

Date: Sat Oct 27 13:47
Archive (archivist@giantsand.com):

Well looks like VPRO changed their schedule and now GS isn't listed for today. I am still gonna keep an ear on the broadcast - hope all is well with everyone today!

Date: Sat Oct 27 13:15
Rosco (silversoupnd@htomail.com):

WRONG

Date: Sat Oct 27 12:06
Andrew (bry@uk.packardbell.org):

Howe, what's happening with K Hirsh on the Barbican bill? All the advertising has dropped her name. Problems? I also hear John Parish may be bringing Polly on stage. Do you know anything you can reveal? Many thanks.

Date: Sat Oct 27 07:40
peter s. (in front of my pc tonight):

hi all, I can't find that link to tonight's show. I'll keep looking wut could anyone post it? thanks, p.

Date: Fri Oct 26 18:53
emmm (^^^^^^^^):

************************************* ********* ***************** hello everyone. howsit for you all? Dunno if it's been mentioned but I thought I'd get a word in today--Just got the Hank Williams thing "Timeless" in the mail which, by the way I think is missing a Howe track somewhere in there..Anyway despite that it is very enjoyable--Lucinda Williams& Emmylou and of course Bob and others like Ryan Adams, Johnny Cash and Keith Richards and such. you've all probably heard it but there's my word. I like it and recommend it alot. take care everyone..always something else to buy but I can't wait to hold unsungglum in my hand.:) so long, coolest people on earth ********************* ********************* ********************

Date: Fri Oct 26 15:42
Archivist (archive@giantsand.com):

Hey, I figured it out.. GS will take the stage at midnight in Amsterdam which is 3 PM Tucson time on Saturday afternoon. Been listening to day 1 of the festival live at work - sounds good!

Date: Fri Oct 26 14:48
mike (home (on a friday night?)):

Roscoe - original photo (of Sophie) was taken by Robin Stoutenberg. There's little artwork for 'Unsungglum'... it comes in the plastic shell case.

Date: Fri Oct 26 14:33
jms (s):

gracias butter & archivist. Sounds like a great radio show. Wish I could pick it up.

Date: Fri Oct 26 14:17
Archivist (archive@giantsand.com):

The additional unreleased tracks on Unsungglum are the only thing different then the original Glum release. The original Glum tracks are the same - just a different order... Mitch - you got it! Any others?

Date: Fri Oct 26 14:00
nutterbutter (S.F.):

James - Howe is telling the rest of the band that their "Jam" sounds like a Greatful Dead Jam. I dont know if he approves or disapproves?

Date: Fri Oct 26 13:13
Mitch (one calorie):

Jim Archivist, the show sounds great, I'll be listening in. As long as your taking requests...how about some of that enticing Vic Chestnutt material you mentioned on a previous post. Also, there's a wonderful piano version of "St. Conformity" from Darmstadt 6/27/2000.

Date: Fri Oct 26 11:46
Ian (GILLANIAN@aol.com):

Before anyone goes to e-bay to buy a copy of Glum or any of the older G Sand releases that are now hard to find I would recommend checking out WWW.GEMM.COM you can get used copies of most of them there and the prices are pretty good, mostly. For example a promo copy of Glum for $5.99 not bad!

Date: Fri Oct 26 11:27
again (?):

I mean other than unsung having extra tracks. Are the tracks that are on both identical, or has the production and such been changed, added to, deconstructed?

Date: Fri Oct 26 11:13
james (?):

how is unsungglum and glum the same, different? Just wondering if it IS worthwhile to get one of those Glums from ebay. ??

Date: Fri Oct 26 10:52
rosco (silversoupnd@hotmail.com):

Who took the photo on Unsnugglum?

Date: Fri Oct 26 09:55
Archivist (archive@giantsand.com):

Hey again. News for AZsandland:) I didn't get it together to go along on the current GS tour and thus will be missing the Barbican on Nov 3 as many of us here stateside. So, how about a cool radio show instead? I will be the guest host on KXCI's Center Stage on the early morning of November 3 from 3 AM to 6 AM (early Saturday Morning) on 91.3 FM in Tucson and will be breaking out numerous rare gems from the Giant Sand Archive - old and new - a taste of what we are missing perhaps.. Plus, I plan on including highlights from the KXCI benefit from last April with PJ Harvey as well as some material I captured from the Calexico tour and Howe's solo tour from this last summer. I am sure Rainer will make it in the mix as well! Requests?

Date: Fri Oct 26 09:11
DividedSelf (mdh1961@hotmail.com):

Any news on the Manchester cancellation? Other than the most beautiful football(soccer)that is to be seen on this planet there is very little in the ether in northern england to edify the spirit - our industrial landscapes are scarred with derelict textile mills and soulless housing estates, overseen by ubiquitous depressive grey skies. Monday's gig was to provide respite and help us poor choking northern souls survive another year. Help!

Date: Fri Oct 26 09:04
chrisztine (@home):

amsterdam is GMT + 1 (arizona GMT -7 ??)

Date: Fri Oct 26 07:28
Archivist (archive@giantsand.com):

Hey all... Some Giant Sand news for views: The show on October 27, Saturday night will be webcast on VPRO = http://www.vpro.nl - click on the Crossing Border 2001 link - listed as "00.00 - Sessie Giant Sand"; Some other great artists there as well. So, anyone know if that would be 00.00 GMT? Any idea what time we would be talking about here in AZ? yah?

Date: Thu Oct 25 13:09
***emme*** (my oh my!):

hey-that's wierd--know what? back in sucky catholic school freshman year this idiot guy bobby was being an idiot basically to close friends so we had various things delivered to him(anything free or chargable to him we could find)and various religious or motivational speakers visit him(we convinced them he was in various binds)and one thing was I called a pediatrist and told him I was bobby and i had an ingrown toenail(not very imaginative I know but when you consider all the door-to-door and in-the-mail stuff that came flooding and the fact that we were 14, it was brilliant)and guess what? bobby really had an awful ingrown toenail& hadn't told anyone about it--well he was so driven to madness he told a friend--but that was his one affliction so maybe I am phsycic--though I don't see how usefull this kind could be --"Let me see--I see-I see-a urinary infection..I see migranes when you're in a room full of hyper children..." Well that's my speech. about time I made a good speech again...Hope it was helpful(tee hee)hope each and every one on this list has a happy and healthy liver(although beer seems to be the prevalent beverage around here))later. james, hope it's alright now:):)

Date: Thu Oct 25 10:11
oh yes (james):

and when you wake up this sunday morning, you can roll over and set your clock back an hour and get some more of that good sleep. I'm sad to say Sleep and I aren't getting along lately.

Date: Thu Oct 25 09:18
james (oh wow):

oh wow, Em, you just freaked me out. See, about two months ago I went to the doctor and tests came back showing liver trouble and I had this big scare, tested for hep b, c, and such. Turned out ok though. Just alcohol. Can't drink anymore, at all. But I saw your post and I was thinking, is this girl psychic or what!?!?!

Date: Thu Oct 25 09:07
emm (~~~~~~~~):

oh==sorry, James--I am woozy--I meant D--dark hearted D-I got ot all wrong.I'm off now to more brain drain

Date: Thu Oct 25 08:59
***** (em):

sleepy anyone??? well I am and the day keeps stretching out and getting longer--hey I think that'll be technically true this weekend(this weekend?) when an extra hour is gained-is that correct?? I don't know. One thing I know--sleep is good. Take care, one and all and take care of that liver of yours, James. :) bye for now..Oh my! so much news of new beginnings---life sorta balances out sometimes.

Date: Thu Oct 25 05:59
Toby (or not):

the come = that some

Date: Thu Oct 25 05:58
Toby ((London)):

Hi all. Don't know if you're interested, but I was just having a look at ebay and there are a few tasty items there - notably a copy of the v rare Stromausfall CD. And all those old copies of Glum seem to be coming out of the woodwork too - although maybe no-one cares with the appearance of Unsunglum... Hope to see a few of those knocking around at the Barbican gig. Anyone (Howe?) give any clues about tasty merchandise morsels??? And does anyone know anything about the 3-inch Howe Gelb CD the come Canadian company is releasing?????

Date: Thu Oct 25 01:58
Rob Stanier (Robtstanier@aol.com):

To J(still@leaf) and all takers and scribblers on this most wonderful site. Only 3 weeks away from the due date of our unborn. Am constantly on tenterhooks and freakin every time my mobile phone rings. Have arranged to go to Leicester Sand gig but have a quick getaway planned if the little one should decide to show up that evening. To Howe, congratulations on the wonderful news and also belated best wishes on your birthday. Also when the sept 11th sh*t went down this page was one of the only things that gave me any hope whatsoever, dont change the format just scroll. Much Love and hope to see some of you in Leicester on 31st. the promoter is describing it as "The gig of the decade".Wicked.Rob,ever expanding Nat and unborn. Yoo HOO K.

Date: Wed Oct 24 13:05
BD ((=)):

Happy belated from Chicago, and congrats on the new unit to arrive 9 months from now. It's really great to her of a 44 or is it 45 year old man still has lead in the old pencil. Family is by far the greatest thing on this here earth. Everytime I speak with or hug and kiss my 14 year and 12 year old kids it's like no other in this whole god dang world. I'd love to have another but being divorced kind of puts a crimp in the old pipe. Any loving women here in CHI that might want to hook up with a 46 year old good looking young for his age guy let me know. Now we are going to turn this page into a matchmaking venue. LOVE LOVE LOVE. Not enough in this new world we now live in. My goal is to push as much LOVE as I can muster. It may offset all this other ego crud.

Date: Wed Oct 24 08:25
james (yawn turn song in mental rotation):

fifth straight night of insomnia, everything is getting loose... On Purge & Slouch, the song Bender, when it goes into the nice instrumental section, Howe begins to mutter stuff. One time it kind of sounds like "you make it sound like the f#cking Dead", then later, "you're good enough to be...." And again at the tail end of the song, something muttered. Anybody got a clue to what's really being said? Oh, and good morning to you too, Em.

Date: Wed Oct 24 07:31
********** (em):

good morning on wednesday..hope it's a good one:)

Date: Tue Oct 23 16:32
keith (keith@genhydro.com):

Happy Birthday Howe and Congrats on the upcoming little one...wow!!!

Date: Tue Oct 23 13:31
d (1234567 ):

Mitch, I got the stack of booze ready for the weekend gig bonnie prince in whelans dublin so its looking sick sick sick all the way to work ...may b i can blague my way out of work for the week any further suggestions.....

Date: Tue Oct 23 13:14
Nuno (in lisbon):

same again, howe... see ya on the 3rd!

Date: Tue Oct 23 12:37
Mitch (in praise of the wife's second heart):

Great news. Congrats too from me.

Date: Tue Oct 23 11:52
geoff (expectations):

Howe, Congratulations from Texas.

Date: Tue Oct 23 08:43
james (circle):

Yes, indeed! Congrats to Gelb! Also, I'd like to send out good wishes to the soul of the late Reverend Howard Finster. I hope he found his wild-eyed folk art Jesus on the other side.

Date: Tue Oct 23 07:29
** (em):

morning. cold and yucky today. congatulations, howe and hope everyone's day is wonderful and worry-free

Date: Tue Oct 23 03:07
peter s. (stupid me, didn't get it):

well then...congratulations once again!

Date: Tue Oct 23 02:47
J (still@leaf):

Sorry, I meant Stainer's. Be lucky xxx.

Date: Tue Oct 23 02:43
J(re:fatherhood) (leaf@{cd}tree uk):

Howe, big time newly aware congrats on your announcement. Also to your ilk. Steiner's have you yet delivered?

Date: Tue Oct 23 02:19
peter s. (re: Howe shocking everyone):

Patti, I'm afraid I have no idea. What could it be - Howe shocking everybody with an announcement? Although I'd rather be stunned than shocked you made me curious... Take care, and a rewarding, safe European experience. Best, P.

Date: Mon Oct 22 19:39
patti (cake):

Peter, I guess Howe answered your question for you hey? He announced it at his party the other night shocking everyone there including me. The river constantly rerouting itself. Life is grand. The due date is 6-3 Patsy (his daughter) is 6-4 and Rainer is 6-7. Happy Birthday Howe. Your guts are loved by many. See you when you get home safe and sound. Patti

Date: Mon Oct 22 15:12
Chris (G):

because it's your birthday, Howe and because you are stranded in a strange land, I have done some string-pulling and you get an extra hat today! in addition, I'll trick Frak into giving me his pie& send you a picture of the pie.

Date: Mon Oct 22 14:31
howe (almost de-homed):

thanks for such fine wishery. the eye moistens. the lip curls. the screen splotches. the wife bulges with a second heart. good lord, i'm outa here.....see you all.

Date: Mon Oct 22 13:29
geoff (happy birthday):

Happy Birthday Howe.

Date: Mon Oct 22 13:22
Chris (G):

Chris G wants in on that pie, Frak-will you take hats for pie?

Date: Mon Oct 22 11:19
frak (()):

Prodigal Bjorn, we welcome you back into the fold with open arms. So today is Big Howe's birthed day? Well, that's a good thing, so I'm off to Luby's and will get a little pumpkin pie in honor of the occassion. What the hell, I might have two slices.

Date: Mon Oct 22 10:50
Bjorn Hammershaug (bhammershaug@mac.com):

Yup, happy happy b-day Mr. Gelb!! (a little too late - I've hidden myself in shame over questioning this list I love so much lately). Happy days to all of you, came to think of it.

Date: Mon Oct 22 10:41
***emm*** (re:suggestion( hehe-look at me all receptive like and such))):

that sounds like a plan, james--although speaking for myself it will be hard to restrain from filling that box with squiggly lines--Howe's birthday was yesterday or today?? oh my they grow up so fast...

Date: Mon Oct 22 10:22
Wolf (wolf@imagineer.be):

Howe, what do you need besides 1000£, a nice meal and showers? Meaning material to actually be able to have a show (PA, …). We're looking to set you up in Leuven (just 15 miles from Brussels) if that's a possibility for you? All the best, Wolf

Date: Mon Oct 22 10:09
Mike (susquehannah@hotmail.com):

Howe If you still want to play in the North West of England now that the Manchester gig is off, there is (or at least was) an appropriate venue in Preston. Its the Adelphi pub, and people like Steve Wynn and Chuck Prophet have played there in the past. Its a "cozy" (I would guess 15' x 30') upstairs room next to the local university, and mid way between Manchester and Liverpool. If you are interested I'll ask them what the situation is. Otherwise, please please please play anywhere in the North West. Hope to be at a gig next week. Mike

Date: Mon Oct 22 08:40
peter s. (trivia):

some spice girl-like trivia: ... back in '96 howe cut his hair "because I turned 40", he said... what will happen this year?? reportedly the SUN is going to send out paparazzis to the forthcoming shows to capture the ever-changing outfit of mr. gelb and his giant sand... happy birthday!

Date: Mon Oct 22 08:33
Blaine (@work):

...Happy B-Day Howe -- thanks for all the music & inspiration.

Date: Mon Oct 22 08:29
james (suggestion):

because this board has clearly gone beyond a "comments page" and has become a community of sorts, and multiple threads are inevitable, as is a certain degree of confusion and scrolling, perhaps the E-mail address line can be used as a subject line. Someone starts a new thread and types in the e-mail line (old socks are the best). Someone else, perhaps many others, may want to respond to that comment and they type (re:old socks are the best). Anyway, just a suggestion. Happy birthday from me too, Howe. Hope you have a great tour. Wish I could get across the Atlantic and see you guys.

Date: Mon Oct 22 06:32
Gustav (downhill city):

Cracklin' water would be nice ......and so would dirty from the rain

Date: Mon Oct 22 03:34
Tommy Gailer (i know i am too late...):

...but Happy B.Day to ya Howe from Bavaria...and have fun in Amsterdam!

Date: Mon Oct 22 02:35
Mikus Minibus) (m.malcorps@spawater.com):

Hi Howe (and the others...) Finally I have my tickets for the Barbican show... but it was a long "trip" to be sure to recieve them... We will come from Brussels for the show... My request would be : could you please sing "Cracklin' Water", like you did it a few years ago at the Botanique... Do yo remember ??? Would the CD "rock opera years 3" be available at the concert ??? Hope meeting yo there, across the Chanel. Mikus and Pascual

Date: Sun Oct 21 20:04
john (1/2underwater):

sometimes I like to read this page from the top down instead of scrolling down to where I last left off, it usually makes sense, different, but just fine

Date: Sun Oct 21 19:01
*** (em):

hate to interject but I'll make is short--happy birthday, Howe. :)

Date: Sun Oct 21 17:20
Adrian (adrian_crowley@hotmail.com):

Hi Howe, I just checked the listings for the Shelter in Dub-land.There's nothing listed for the 29th so I can speak to them in the morning if you'd like.How does that sound?

Date: Sun Oct 21 16:30
J (re:the:chain):

http://www.ulrc.com.au/html/report.asp?CaseFile=ULRR0094&Page=1&View=Request Here's the debunk to the unhappy halloween. How Howe, and a very happy birthday to you. If I can make it to the barbican, I would love to hear 'loving cup', as would my beloved.

Date: Sun Oct 21 16:23
Mitch (Tokyo Joe):

Uh oops...sorry to jump the gun on the B-day. Let's see...could ya just scroll down tomorrow and pretend you didn't already read it? Or, how's this, it's already tomorrow in Japan, so that's where my head was when previous message was sent. This is getting complicated.

Date: Sun Oct 21 15:43
howe (at least 9 hours left at 44):

SO BASICALLY NO ONE HERE OWNS CLUB ....OR WILL OPEN A CLUB.... BY OCTOBER 29TH, SOMEWHERE ON THE SLANT PATCH OF PLANET BETWIXT BENELUX DELUXE AND THE CHAMPION CITY OF JORDY LAND.....HOWABOUT DUB-LAND THEN?? -howe

Date: Sun Oct 21 15:34
Tom (....):

Just identify yourself at the entrance Gustav. I'm willing to bet that there will be no other person with your name in the audience.

Date: Sun Oct 21 15:31
john goodger (johnnybarcelona@aol.com):

re: your window on 29th of october..the concorde in brighton, england is a perfect venue, size and location wise and there would be lots of interest and enthusiasm i'm sure..they are on 01273 207241 or 01273 606460. sparklehorse played recently. i could phone! looking forward to the barbican as well.

Date: Sun Oct 21 14:36
Tom (....):

Just identify yourself at the entrance Gustav. I'm willing to bet that there will be no other person with your name in the audience.

Date: Sun Oct 21 14:24
Gustav Tinghög (rain and snow):

On the email i got to confirmation my ticket purchase for teh barbican show it says "Tickets will be held for collection"...What exactly does this mean? Willi be alright if i just show up at the door and id myself? Does anyone know?

Date: Sun Oct 21 13:53
Peter I. Chang (panofpans):

Happy, Happy Birthday, Howe!

Date: Sun Oct 21 13:46
Mitch (You say it's your Birthday):

Loads of goodwill and well wishes on this day, Howe! Hope it's mighty fine one indeed!

Date: Sun Oct 21 13:33
mike (what! again!!!!):

.....and it's Howe's birthday. So, all together now............HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.... HAPPY BIRTHADAY TO YOU........ etc.

Date: Sun Oct 21 13:31
mike (still here - still now):

Here's Chuck's message to giantsand.discuss......."Sirs, Bringing Glum and the OP8 record (Slush?) to Saudi Arabia during my tours flying the F-15C over Saddam's country was always the way to travel. If in combat, my travels were to unravel, I felt comfortable knowing I could count on the "desert music" to get me through. I am a retired fighter pilot who happens to be a musician and thank you Mr. Gelbe and Co. for providing me an inspiring source of music to drink from when the desert gets you a might parched. regards, Chuck Erlinger "

Date: Sun Oct 21 13:24
mike (right here - right now):

Tommy, I can go along with what you say.... discussion lists with a thread.. but I've always found them hard to follow.. maybe I'm biased but the whole feel of this page is what draws me back two or three times a day. Emms right - the looseness of the topics... it'll get too complicated. Blaine - you're right too - the randomness is somehow what it's about. I also don't like the use of 'outside' discussion software/companies... I'm on the Calexico and Steve Wynn groups and the adverts and stuff just piss me off. I don't know of another band releated site that has such a vibrant comments/discussion page..... I don't sometimes agree or like (or understand) what's put up ... but that not what it's all about. It's like what Matt says... overlistening a conversation.. interjecting when the needs be... adding the caustic / agreement / comment / whatever. The discussion mail list is just a mail forwarding thing... and it isn't used that much... mainly due to this page... but it's there. So.... if you want something different, let's hear from more of you out there.. I know you're there.. I've got the stats... and this page has a huge number of hits compared to the content added.

Date: Sun Oct 21 12:44
***m (***(little "m" I guess)):

I've got the fighter pilot thingy--should I post it right here on this page??? Is that what ya' mean or am I just plain insane??? lemme know and I'll post it tonight--yeah that letter was pretty interesting...

Date: Sun Oct 21 12:29
mike (sa-wa-ro):

Paul - 'Build your own night - it's easy' is another title for 'Official Bootleg Series - Volume One'..... so, one in the same album.

Date: Sun Oct 21 11:10
chrisztine (as mentioned below):

and genuinesness.

Date: Sun Oct 21 11:07
chrisztine (real sick):

geniusness? why should he? that's not what it is about. geniusness. what an idea.....

Date: Sun Oct 21 10:53
blaine (@workbeforethe GBPackergame):

...hmmm if someone is upset (and I really don't think anyone is)over the changing nature of this board you should track down an album --most any one will do -- by a band called Giant Sand. They have done well working this concept of random-ness to thier advantage. It really never hurts to embrace want you can't control and see what happens. Last week the email group got a posting from a fighter-pilot who listened to GS on his missions a few years back. Does anyone still have it and want to post it, or would that inflame a PC wrench into our monkeying around here? To d: If you really don't want to work, tell yr boss. Your time should be yr own -- then again I'm here on a Sunday. As far as Palace goes, some of the songs are great, but I've come to question the genuinesness of the writer. That tends to color my opinion. Blaine

Date: Sun Oct 21 10:20
Tommy Gailer (Emm / Peter):

Hi, not to be misunderstood, i feel very fine with the comment-side here and it was just a sight to the future months, expecting a lot more people joinin`this side here.*********** If my memory serves me well, the ez-board forum should be free.********* Here`s a link to the wilco board "how to fight loneliness" as an example how it could work (don`t get confused by some of the rude posts over there):http://pub5.ezboard.com/fwilcohowtofightloneliness.html

Date: Sun Oct 21 08:09
~~~ (emm~~~):

good morning. hope all is close to well for everyone. ah, I see Bjorn and Tommy--i can understand the randomness of topics are hard to follow and alot to scroll..But I don't really know how well the thread theory would work considering it's not too often topics are discussed from way back--it's usually just alittle something that's on that person's mind on that day and then maybe a couple replies to that and then on to something else--well it doesn't always work that way--but I'm guessing my point is that the very fact that this page is free-flowing would make it difficult to be organized into threads--since there really aren't many-since it is random...Plus someone may want to address more than one topic in one comment as crazy crazy can't stop writing me has a tendancy to do..ah well. I am off. No need to apoligize, Bjorn--it is a free comment page and looky-you got us all talking. :) later. it is sunny and cold today--just pick one already!!!jeeeez.***************************************

Date: Sun Oct 21 07:19
peter s. (knitting the threads (my final techno comment)):

ok, tommy. now i got it. right. i could imagine threads as well. but this would take some work and probably a redesign of the forum (i.e. investing money). that may happen one day but meanwhile we should be glad to be able to share our collective sandness the way we can now. (and probably be aware that leaving a comment here or drifting off from topic to topic can be a little disrupting.) Alas - i just rediscovered that old recording from the GS-Tour in 1990 with Pappy Allen & Victoria Williams. I still wish that the old man had done "Heartland". Oh god, that would have been brilliant!

Date: Sun Oct 21 00:27
Tommy Gailer ((to Paul, Peter, Em, Frak, Bjorn, Matt and everybody else here)):

The giant sand discussing mailing list isn`t workin`with "threads", and seems not very handy for most of us...no rush on the list at all. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX So again, why not to take a discussion forum, that allows us to use different "threads"? We get more and more interested - and interesting people here, but i can`t really discuss with these people about a special thread, `cause it`s annoying to scroll up and down for every comment.^^^^^^^^^^^^Then i could discuss (for example) with 3 or 4 people about the new White-Stripe-Album (for example)in an own thread, without having the bad feeling to fill this board with comments no one is interested in (except these 3 or 4 people). Wouldn`t that kind of forum allow more people to participate in the board, or am i too naive?

Date: Sat Oct 20 20:23
Chris (G):

The soup is on. Talk of me will only encourage the hats

Date: Sat Oct 20 18:18
Mitch (hour eleven):

Hey, D, if the boss wants you to work and is being a bit inflexible...then call in sick, real sick--then get drunk at the show, real drunk--then show up the next day at work, real sick.

Date: Sat Oct 20 17:36
paulk (p.kerr@ntlworld.com):

RE: cancelled manchester gig. Howe, I've mailed Tom Hamilton who did your last Glasgow gig with the info. We're halfway so do it if you can. I can't scrape the grand but I'll buy you a Baillie Jarvis Nicol. Paul (in Glasgow)p.s. Tom is at deathandtaxes@tinyonline.co.uk if you want to barter.

Date: Sat Oct 20 17:26
paulk (e@erygrainofsand):

I'm sure this has been mentioned before but amazon still list Build your own as a giant sand disc. It's not, am I right?

Date: Sat Oct 20 17:25
Bjorn Hammershaug (bhammershaug@mac.com):

Sorry for sounding grumpy (which I was yesterday...). I like the free flow here as well. Too much scrolling sometimes. Smile all, apologies.

Date: Sat Oct 20 16:01
peter s. (here):

... dang - I'd love to take that chance & pull every string to get that gig for you. obviously vienna is not on the way from brussels to newcastle ... best, p.

Date: Sat Oct 20 15:52
howe (almost not home):

folks....WE MIGHT NEED YOUR HELP HERE. apparently, i was unaware that the mancheter show had been cancelled...until yesterday. big drag. we have since rented a way too big seeper bus to get there (or anywhere) from brussels the following evening. ......it was not because there was not enough interest in the show, it was because our beloved agent thought we could never do th edrive in a van to ge there n time without severe croinks to the system. bu now we have the big bus to accomidate, we have no show that night. MONDAY ....OCTOBER 29th....IS THE NIGHT IN QUESTION. does anyone here (or there) have any ideas wher we might still get a show for that night ??? payment would be 1000 pounds and just one hotel room for showers unless the club has them already. IT CAN BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN BRUSSELS AND NEWCASTLE .ha haha ....sounds like it could be fun, but there is only a week's timeto promote. any takers ????????

Date: Sat Oct 20 15:50
d (q r s t u v w x y z ):

well tom that is sad about your friend crashing after sparkelhorse, hope he/she gets the all clear. Now, a question, Ive being impressing the boss at work and next weekend I have a ticket to bonnie prince billy in whelans dublin, but the boss wants me to work ....what would you do fellow sandies, howe this ponderious of pondififacation is for you to encuonter a response to if your at all bothered, adios sandies..........jeeze

Date: Sat Oct 20 15:49
em (******):

who's trying to be like howe??? me? if so, i've not realized it--how on earth is anyone on this page trying to write like someone else?? It is the english language afterall--gee if my comment was the one that striked bjorn's, sorry for my vocabulary origins and sorry I like conversing with the people on this page--who are no less living breathing people than howe whom I'm sure by now each know who they are as individuals. there's also something to be said for inspiration --where would we be today if bits and pieces weren't borrowed somewhere??? ah, well..that is all. later nice sand fans. (((emme)))

Date: Sat Oct 20 14:55
peter s. (after whose entry this discussion started):

... right said, frak. the more this place is blooming, the more it's buzzing. nobody ever shows up here if she/he wouldn't be interested in giant sand in 1st place. so what's the fuzz about? my entry? asking people to help me out with ideas? people who i assume have more or less in common - ying - their interest in music, ideas, general thoughts on politics & life ... not abusing space. (would be more the case if i were on the yang - side.) ah - what the heck, yesterday i was just checking out if there was anybody here, ready to drop work and to start a nice chat. music could have been the topic. wasn't. nobody been here. ... and ... bjorn ... i stopped wanting to be like howe about a decade ago. amazing musician - yes! fantastic guitar player & songwriter - indeed! obviously open hearted and open minded as i'd like all people to be - sure! but you got this wrong. or right??? i really don't need another life, correct. mine is plenty enough. although a next one would be a fascinating opportunity. which doesn't mean i want anybody else's life. not yours, not howe's. but flinging back to the main topic (giant sand): is the forthcoming tour really ending on nov. 3rd or is ther any chance it may be prolonged and continued throughout europe? i'd love to see you play here. howe - szene wien, hotel furstenhof, room & tram number 6 ... does this not tempt you to re-scedule your plans? after all it's been a year since the last show ...

Date: Sat Oct 20 13:23
matt (hmmmm yep):

yes yes yes, em and frak, you hit the nail on the head. this page is so great because of its 'randomness' i must admit to just skulking about in the background eagerly evesdropping on this ever evolving, hellishly (sic) long rambling conversation and arnt those the best types of conversation. its like being in my local pub just talkin, or listening to the next tables conversation, and maybe butting in and throwing an opinion in with them or asking a question, or maybe not. maybe just sitting there silently with my pint of Guiness listening in unknown. and Howe (i hope not to embarass you with praise) but you seem to have the uncanny knack of always saying something that seems so true, so 'wise'. keep on, keep on, keep on

Date: Sat Oct 20 12:13
********em (viva frak):

I'm with you, Frak--I think this thing's great because all of us sand people can write freely--hell anything giant sand related is absolutley welcome--but I think the whole Giant Sand/ Howe thing apart from the wonderful no-boundries music is about hanging out and knowing good people and that is the beauty of it all-and this page--look at howe's comments--where else do you get that from the very legend you came to a page to praise??? and that is why we all love howe all the more(well speaking for myself atleast and probably many others)..anyway, that's my speech of the day...Ah, Saturday..I'm off now but, please more Giant Sand talk but no less people talk:) :) later all--sorry others:: (((emme)))

Date: Sat Oct 20 09:28
frak (()):

There have been days when no one posts anything at all on this comments page, so I tend to like reading something new, even if it doesn't always focus on Sand-related subject matter. Feels kinda like a lot of people sitting around a table and the conversation moves and evolves, but in the end it always comes back to the subject at hand--Howe, Sand, etc. Now I'm not sure what Bjorn meant, or if he was grumping about unrelated content here...but if so, I suggest rather than grumping he could contribute something to the conversation that he feels is more relevant. In other words, if you want to keep it moving in a certain direction you got to get your fingers typing.

Date: Sat Oct 20 07:41
P KERR (P):

Can we not use the communication spot on the website as a different type of board. I think you have to sign up for it.

Date: Sat Oct 20 05:47
tommy gailer (tgailer@yahoo.de):

Hey Mike Brewer! Again following suggestion: why not to turn that comment side into a discussion forum (ez-board for example.), where people can use different threads. Since that board got a lot more busy, wouldn`t that be a proper basis. Now it is pretty confusing, to scroll around and really find the thread one is interested in. I can understand Bjorn`s comment below.

Date: Fri Oct 19 18:21
Bjorn hammers (bhammershaug@mac.com):

Vow - I'd really like to (ab)use this page for everything I think right now, then I'm like... Howe!! So, I don't really need another life. Do I?

Date: Fri Oct 19 15:57
************ (em********************):

have fun in this cabin you speak of, James..HAve a great weekend all--Hey! someone's banging on my ceiling! guess I'd better go---bye bye:: (((emme)))~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Date: Fri Oct 19 15:41
peter s. (oakvalley):

dang it's a drag... i should finish some work and don't even know how to start. midnight already here in ol' Austria. anybody here with a splendid, sparkling idea to start an article about mobile phones??? ring my bell........................

Date: Fri Oct 19 08:40
james (worries concerning the taking of the last chip):

Have not heard Chester, but will very soon if I can find it! The copy of Tools I saw had a bonus disk, so probably true about Merge. Heading away this weekend to a little cabin in Alabama with sweetheart and Whompyjawed. Hope you folks have a great weekend.

Date: Fri Oct 19 08:21
Mitch (daughter, daughter, what troubles you?):

Thanks, Lamb. And thanks, James. I'll probably pick up Tool, even though I've got most of what's on there already. Have you heard Chester--the Josh Rouse/Kurt Wagner collaboration? Quite nice. I understand if you buy Tools from Merge directly, a bonus disc is included with it.

Date: Fri Oct 19 05:24
don (Lon):

........sorry, wrong noticeboard

Date: Fri Oct 19 05:24
don (Lon):

........sorry, wrong noticeboard

Date: Fri Oct 19 05:23
don ((Lon)):

pox-ridden blankets anyone?

Date: Fri Oct 19 03:24
Lamb (hop):

Hey Mitch, just so you know, that Lambchop thing is called treasure Chest Of The Enemy. Tour-only CD, but you can pick it up from Merge records online, as you can the Lambchop singles thingy, Tools in the Dryer. Huge Chop fan though I am, wouldn't overly recommend Tools – although it does have its moments...

Date: Thu Oct 18 18:11
******** (em):

alrighty. I think we've established no more haikus. Let's have some more music talk:)

Date: Thu Oct 18 17:43
BIG M@ (concerned@home):

"haiku, schmaiku.

Date: Thu Oct 18 15:11
em (***):

and HATS--don't forget the hats!

Date: Thu Oct 18 15:01
stringy stuff (rabid skunks):

It's dangerous around here, what with all the stringy stuff and rabid skunks.

Date: Thu Oct 18 09:47
*************e (m*************************):

thankyou very much, James==I am glad you liked my stinky haiku--and I agree--no more haiku writing--it'll be a silent protest until the page is more haiku-friendly--that'll show'em...so just wanted to say good morning to all of you and happy wednesday for yesterday(for some reason it's so hard to keep track of time these days))and tour??? when? where and when and when and yay! later all:) (((emme)))

Date: Thu Oct 18 08:29
Blaine (@work):

James -- totally understandable. I orig taped the Biograph stuff from the local public library. Archivist -- any tour dates being tossed out yet? Blaine

Date: Thu Oct 18 08:18
james s (stop chewing your food in my ear that's nasty):

Thanks Emmmm, I like it. Esp the last line. Yes, we should discontinue all haiku writing until we get a comment board program that is more haiku friendly. ha. Not much else to say except that I am depressed by all of the hypocrisy and the double standards that are coming from high places. ahhhhhh!

Date: Wed Oct 17 20:50
archivist (archive@giantsand.com):

Just an FYI - don't miss the upcoming Giant Sand tour.. Rehearsals are ongoing here in Tucson - and sounding great! Expect new faces + sounds with the ever-steady direction from Howe, John, and Joey!

Date: Wed Oct 17 18:19
*** (emm):

this comment page should be more equipped for haiku writing--I'm outraged

Date: Wed Oct 17 18:10
********************** (em**********):

alright, alright james--heregoes--don't like haikus but might as well.. {{{this and that and more tiny dripps that learn to pour form fine sound of sand}}} is that right? I dunno-can it rhyme? I liked the eyebrow one better::

Date: Wed Oct 17 16:33
jamesjames (@play):

I'll check it out Blaine. I'm a bit uneasy with dishing out such tender (legal) for liner notes. I have so much of that music already. I WOULD like very much to read that stuff though. I need to figure out how to read it without buying the set. ha. Just found out Low and Fridge will be here next week for a show. That pleases me. And, a new david lynch film!

Date: Wed Oct 17 14:42
Blaine (@work):

James (and everyone else) the Dylan Biograph set is worth checking into for his own commentary on his songs, how they are perceived and society in general. He also offers some cool insights from the so-called Gospel era. If anyone is so inclined, all the unreleased cuts fit neatly onto a 45m tape. Blaine

Date: Wed Oct 17 12:07
james (s):

Mitch, Haul Away Joe is on it I know. I'll email you the titles anyway, and the name of the disk, when I get home and can look at it.

Date: Wed Oct 17 11:23
Mitch (viva democracy now!):

James...is it the same disc with "Haul Away Joe" on it and "We Shall Not Be Overwhelmed"? Just curious. If not, can you email me and give me the other song titles? Gracias, Mitch

Date: Wed Oct 17 10:50
patti (k):

All I can say is thank goodness for democracy now in exile on pacifica radio!!!!

Date: Wed Oct 17 10:49
james (only it could be "With Bert on Our Side"):

I don't have the new singles collection yet. There is a little "bootleg" of songs on disk that they recorded in Kurt's basement that they have been selling at shows. When he got back from his last time out, he had some copies left over and he put them in a great local record shop. I picked it up there. It had Heart Attack on it and much else besides. Really good low mood stuff. Makes me hungry for the next "official" disk. I've only had time to listen to it a couple of times and don't yet know most of the song titles and such.

Date: Wed Oct 17 10:20
Mitch (hours five through ten):

"Miss Prissy," that is. My finger must've gone wild on the "y" button.

Date: Wed Oct 17 10:11
Mitch (shopping tickets music health greetings):

Whoa, there you are, Em. Good to read your scrawls again. And, James, "Kurt Wagner's Heart Attack" is a good one. Have you heard "Moody F@cker" or Lambchop's take on Vic C's "Missy Prissy"--two good rarities, think they can be found on the recent singles compilation. Lastly, saw Jim Blackwood at Albertson's the other night--didn't get a chance to say "howdy," as I was stuck in a never-moving line and the Archivist was heading intently toward the doors with bags in both hands.

Date: Wed Oct 17 09:56
james (life is sad, life is a bust, all you can do is do what you must...):

Ok, EM. I'll lay off until you can find time to devote your full and undivided attention to the task. Howe is going to have quite a set list for the Barb show. He may have to ask Kurt and the others to play some other time so that he can fit it all in. I'm sure he won't neglect a single one of the requests that have come up on this board. ha ha. Speaking of Kurt, someone who actually gets to be at the show should get him to play "Kurt Wagner's Heart Attack". It's a good 'un. I think, Howe, you should do a cover of "With God on Our Side". My thanks to whoever it was who put Bootleg Series 1-3 on their list of favorites earlier. I've ordered it and can't wait to get my paws on that one.

Date: Wed Oct 17 09:31
************************** (em):

morning tommmmmmmm--how's the weather over there?? i am off for more fun and frolicing:)********************************************************* ********************************************************************

Date: Wed Oct 17 06:13
stuart (at work just about):

Howe, are you still welcoming tune requests for the Barbican? I've always been intrigued to hear your take on "You Can't Put Your Arms Around a Memory" but have never succeeded in achieving a purchase of "Ballad of a Thin Line Man" , now I'm sure the 2001 take would be more than a shade different, but it would be a joy to hear you apply yourself to that beautiful number.

Date: Tue Oct 16 21:05
Tom (@ salvador de Bahia):

welcome back emmmmm

Date: Tue Oct 16 19:11
**oh and (emmm):

am a girl:)and a mighty wierd one at that!!!

Date: Tue Oct 16 19:08
em*** (((having eaten and am eating little red fish with little swirlly eyes))):

greetings all--hope everything is wonderous for each and every one of you..wowie--I am missed? ah it's good to know there's always james--ack I'll write the haiku later(later I promise later)-I want to but I want more to think as little as possible after all the brain draining from the brain drains I am forced to take in order to become a free adult human being(so I have more free time to complain and pay taxes and get divorced tee hee ha ha)Oh, yes, mitch-I'm very very excited to go to Arizona & it is suprisingly coming up:) ! thanks for the advice--I'll have to ask more stuff when the wheels start to go into motion..Guess i'll be off. Nothing relevant here--politics, people--what's to say? there's alot of crazy in this world that keeps us forever on our toes--sometimes it's forgotten just how much crazy there is and what crazy has the potential to do.. I dunno. sleep now..or try..more and more and mpre later--hi, Howe(just to say hi that's all) :) oh, and Mitch--if you still care to know, brain drain wham bam exam is sucking energy neurons out but I think that's a good sign(means i'm thinking alittle for this one))later all**interesting songwriting advice--what a great page this is (((emme)))

Date: Tue Oct 16 12:53
james again (email addresses being what's in between the ( and the ) and worried about EM's absence because I still haven't seen his/her giant sand haiku.):

Man! Just slipped my mind again.

Date: Tue Oct 16 12:14
james (mitch has some very interesting email addresses and em has been neglecting us.):

I forgot what I was going to say.

Date: Tue Oct 16 10:30
Mitch (Speedo revolutionizes male bathing wear on this day):

That's right, the insert is indeed a sticker. Didn't realize that until you mentioned it, Tommy G. Not sure where I'm supposed stick it, but I suspect Frak could tell me.

Date: Tue Oct 16 09:26
Jonathan Reeve (mdareeve@aol.com):

Thank you both for your helpful descriptions!

Date: Tue Oct 16 09:19
Tommy Gailer (sitting sick at home):

And to be perfect in the detail: the insert is actually a sticker...

Date: Tue Oct 16 08:32
Mitch (mabudachi):

The "Down Home 2000" packaging? You mean just a description? Well, hmmmmm...it's bare bones, a bit like the old vinyl bootleg covers of the way past (cardboard tan, title stamped into the cover--think The Who Live At Leeds, in a way). Not a regular jewel case, but more like a CD-sized folder which comes undone in the back. The CD sits nicely inside, not attached to anything--and there's an insert with song titles, and, I believe, a photo of a Gelb-looking person coming or going from a blue barrio door with what appears to be painting attire on. Isn't there a scan of the cover somewhere on this website? I think they're might be. Hope that helps.

Date: Tue Oct 16 08:07
dan the desperate (danthephotgrapher):

So another day another dollar. reading heavier than hevan the kurt cobain biography at present a nice peice of work realy all things considered. going to a stange music club on wedesday night in oxford england its called delisous music and is run by a stange american who always seems to have a freshly lit cammel in his mouth. going to try and play some songs. thankyou for your time

Date: Tue Oct 16 08:02
desperate dan (blah):

I'M A ROLLING STONE ALL ALONE AND LOST

Date: Tue Oct 16 07:00
Jonathan Reeve (mdareeve@aol.com):

Would someone do me the favor of adding a comment describing the packaging of the "Down Home 2000" CD by Howe? I would greatly appreciate it!

Date: Tue Oct 16 06:58
Emanuele ((some thoughts in song)):

.FORGE Put my hands inside your mouth my friend Best works you’ll ever do That book it speaks no notion friend That folks are any worse than you Please exit through the gate my friend Your shoes are near the door I believe you need to go now friend Your do’s and don’ts don’t work no more I’m wishing that I saw yes and I’m wishing that I knew And I’m lifting up my hands yes here’s to all that I can’t do It’s getting pretty dark yes I can barely find my way I’m wishing for my dad yes and his words throughout the day I see flowers blooming in a field my friend Where once two twins they stood I’m not killing some of theirs now friend Twice the loss is less the good. But I’m worried in my boots my friend I know they may not stop And what’s standing up for right now friend If God’s love ain’t at the top. I’m wishing that I saw yes and I’m wishing that I knew And I’m lifting up my hands yes here’s to all that I can’t do It’s getting pretty loud yes I can almost hear a cry I’m wishing for my dad yes I’m afraid that I might die There’s a cornfield near the lake my friend Where all the locals go An anonymity in rows now friend To hide from what we know And imagining there’s no nothing my friend Of all we see used for wrong It’s the same as us and them now friend And blaming and moralizing along. I’m wishing that I saw yes and I’m wishing that I knew And I’m lifting up my hands yes here’s to all that I can’t do It’s getting pretty loud yes I can almost hear a cry I’m wishing for my dad yes my prayers are combing through the sky

Date: Tue Oct 16 05:58
erwin (crash test dummy -- what's in a name):

always hard trying to validate things that seem to happen beyond any control of the self. whether it be the current worldly pictures or a few kids in a stolen vehicle at high velocity showing me a strange car dance. somehow i think it's in search for an identity that these things take place. the hunger for the unique. which makes us us. you you. or me me. -- now should i be angry at someone, or remain laughing? it installs questions. but as long as there's beauty to be found in (the other's) uniqueness, we are kept mobile. and loving. for within that diversity lies equality.. i think. one can not fill all the gaps by himself, ca -- -- and blaine, your friend al was sweet..

Date: Tue Oct 16 03:52
sammy (core):

Howe, do you often play on EKO guitars? Why? In "drunken bees" you play with the red one and it sounds great...I know , you talked about History but I don't "understand" your words very much.I just imagine, my heart don't need much words, it's what I often do when I listen to the songs.Just the atmosphear...Bonsoir,Sammy.

Date: Tue Oct 16 02:44
howe (home still):

we reflect what we can't handle in ways of exhaustive disassociation. drt's comments have exactly the same digression as those that spout out about the need to blame something other then what we all are: the same. he has the same lack of ability to understand as any finger pointer. his brain shuts down after trying to make sense of what would have seemed impossible prior to such a catastrophic event. he probably would rather have said that we may be finding out what happens when a nation (any nation) gets so ridiculously influential on the planet that it becomes incongruent. like why did all the other great civilizations that have predated our imaginations here eventually disappear ? at what point did they step over the line of historic relevance, and eventually, just become a gigantic target. the hardest thing here is to understand each other when we seldom really understand ourselves. the most magnificent thing is to allow love to thrive. during this chain reaction of unparalelled negativity here on the planet, which chain are you going to add your link to ? .......now come on drt, give blaine a hug. now.

Date: Mon Oct 15 23:07
Mitch Cullin (Liechtenstein?):

I can't think of anything more self-centered or arrogant than generalizing a nation of some 300 million people (different races, religions, geographic terra, values, belief systems). For that matter, self-righteousness isn't righteousness, drt, so I'd be a little more mindful when it comes to casting stones.

Date: Mon Oct 15 22:21
ha ha (hee hee):

did you catch it DRT, did you? let's see if you do...

Date: Mon Oct 15 22:17
Webster (my book comes in handy.com):

Dearest DRT, I feel compelled to let you know you spelled tragedy wrong, so before any further slams on our nation, let alone on this website (?), please consult a dictonary...

Date: Mon Oct 15 20:26
Blaine Schultz (still@work):

Small world Tom, my friend Al is playing gtr/keyb/etc with Sparklehorse. Blaine

Date: Mon Oct 15 18:33
Tom (@thoughts.be):

And that's a wise comment, Blaine. It's 3 am over here, and i haven't any wise comments left. As far as i'm concerned, what is happening at the moment isn't even a religious, nationalist or political thing. I'm sorry to say that it's a human thing. We will always be some apes, that fell out of trees at a certain point in evolution. I'm afraid Darwin was right.

Date: Mon Oct 15 18:25
Tom (@thoughts.be):

Hi alphabet, one of my friends had a total loss car crash last night, returning from a Sparklehorse concert. And this fellow sandie is ok and in good health. Which is very good. Isn't it ?

Date: Mon Oct 15 18:25
Blaine (@work):

Anyone can be arrogant and self-centered, I'd imagine our forefathers brought them traits over a long time ago, just as they also left them back in their departed homelands. America is responsible for a lot of things, both good and bad (such as these things tend to be defined). For you to suggest innocent people somehow had it coming to be murdered on 9/11 is beyond naive. Conversely, do you think innocent people in Afghanistan today have somehow asked to be bombarded? ...unless this humble Giant Sand website has been graced by the presence of the Supreme Authority -- if that is the case, won't you please offer the whole world a solution. Blaine

Date: Mon Oct 15 18:00
J (huh@wot.dot.com):

Huh? J Uk xxx

Date: Mon Oct 15 15:31
drt (don't pretend):

Isn't it about time for you americans to realize you are responisble for a lot that has recently happened to you? You can be arrogant and self centered. I am sorry for your tragidies but please don't think you didn't have it coming. I love a lot about your country but you are a victim of your own self.

Date: Mon Oct 15 15:26
d (a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p):

hello sandies whats being happening with everyone. No one need reply to this message if they dont feel like it!

Date: Mon Oct 15 15:25
d (a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p):

hello sandies whats being happening with everyone.

Date: Mon Oct 15 02:47
dan milk maid (desperate&acow):

hello went to see the great american thrash band SLAYER at the weekend supported buy britains verry own Carddel of filth verry good fun Cradel of filth were a bit disney with flashing lights and stuff dancing girls and very bad music. Salyer on the other hand were a good hard kick in the spleen verry good. fun an American band called bio hazzard also played they sucked but ok. sat at the top of a large row of empty side seats i was strangly moved / appaled by the nuremburg ralley antics of the crowd with one hand in the air chantting U.S.A over and over very scarry.

Date: Sun Oct 14 14:05
Phill R. (ghog220@cs.com):

finally i own a computer and there you are . ijust resently went to a tattoo shop and added to my art a black and red YO MOMMA bear.no one but me understands it's signif . so BOLD SO GIANT SAND. when i get a scanner i will send you a shot and none of that M. O. R.

Date: Sun Oct 14 11:23
Sebastian (escribame@gmx.net):

So, Pansonic live in Schnitzelland and I wasn't there? Friday was a pretty shitty day for me anyway. Scheiß-Wochenende halt. Read ya, Sebastian

Date: Sun Oct 14 10:03
3453 (gkdsl):

Uh... que?

Date: Sun Oct 14 05:59
chrisztine (at the airport):

hmmm, well ja,...just like in schnitzellands main bubble Pansonic enrichened the athmosphere with the clearest and loudest vibrations. almost beyond audible. what a delightful way to loosen your joints. couldn't stop smiling since. and the beat patterns still pilot my movements. northwards. crossing borders is near, hopefully, where the usual suspects will provoke one extended sonic ride and laughter. most likely. life is fine, somehow, and above the federalframe

Date: Sun Oct 14 03:18
Insider-Sand ((up here, no over there, down a bit)):

Good on you Howe. The more we stop the more we lose. Bringing joy through song satisfies an essential human need. See you (well, from a few rows away) at the Barbican, take care.

Date: Sun Oct 14 01:21
howe (home):

i have absolutely nothing to say...just happy to see a light on here....i guess we are coming over to do the shows overseas regardless of worldly dilemma and fatigue of dread....i have heard from my friend tom who is half of the ohnatan richman band, and he said their shows have been packed...which means that folks eed some diverson more then ever...and oddly, that sound like a good idea to get on with it....even when logic disobeys.......so....here' hoping you and yours are well......and we see you sooner then later.....-howe

Date: Sat Oct 13 10:49
poot ((turn it on, turn it off, turn it up, and flip 'er over...)):

Glum should have been huge. It's a shame. I'm listening to Backyard BBQ Broadcast aw I type. So dang good; from the playin' to the assembly. "Lester Lampshade" is the greatest song ever! Giant Sand Rules! Ok, no more coffee. -Caffinated Poot

Date: Sat Oct 13 10:17
frak (()):

Glum be out of print, James. But wait for Unsunglum coming soon. In general, I'm personally simple, clean, and oddly...progressive.

Date: Sat Oct 13 08:21
james (s):

so, is Glum an out of print jewel at this time? Glum, the original. Frak, "people are just born". So simple, clean, and, oddly.... progressive.

Date: Sat Oct 13 04:02
frak (()):

Well, darkroom dan, you're right...So-crates did think people were born good. I'm a bit of the opinion people are just born, but it's a nice thought that the good-ness might be at the core. A-course, Socrates played the question game quite well--too bad he couldn't have had a guitar and some nice recording equipment. Which leads me to fave LPs via Poot's suggestion--Hank Williams box set, Pet Sounds box set, The Flatlanders, almost anything touched by the hand of God--I mean, Bob--Dylan, that is. I could go into Giant Sand, but that goes without saying, no? Is Hop-A-Long Howe still taking requests for the London show most of us won't be attending? If so, can I throw "Available Space" and "3 Sisters" into the pot?

Date: Fri Oct 12 20:58
Mitch (ethnic culinary herbs):

Hi, Sarah. You weren't prying in the slightest. I do think Tucson is ideal is many ways. Felt more so that way when I moved here five or so years ago after a long stint in Houston. Besides having a good proximity to the desert and hiking, almost regardless of where you are in the city, there's also the stars--which are fairly visible on most nights. Often I find myself dying to get out of here--and when I'm gone a while I can't wait to get back. The rent is pretty good too, but, as I understand, is up 14% since last year.

Date: Fri Oct 12 13:03
Sarah (Sarah@y):

Sorry to pry Mitch. Tucson is one of three cities I've been contemplating relocating to (don't hate me!). I was just hoping to get some thoughts about life in your fair city. Let's just say that I live in one of the most beautiful cities in the world and because of that I pay a randsom in rent every month. I'm searching for a beautiful city without the cost...

Date: Fri Oct 12 12:48
John W Thomas (ever read lady chatterley's lover?):

Call it original sin. Call it the obscurations of ignorance. Call it what ever you like, this parodox. You get a good idea, a good Ideal, and the next thing you know... you want to fight for it. Therein lies the problem.

Date: Fri Oct 12 12:05
Jason (sherrett@nothingbutnet.net):

Howe Gelb accompanies The Eels and Ben Kweller at the Great American Music Hall in San Francisco, Monday December 3rd, 2001. Quite the ambitious triple bill. Is this just a one-off gig or will there be more. Howe???

Date: Fri Oct 12 11:18
wild bill (johnnys):

Nekid Launch. Any connection between darkroom chemicals and insecticides?

Date: Fri Oct 12 11:17
di (' john w thomas ' ???):

well, james, could i have some more information about how to reach this " john w thomas" ?????? there are few things i would like to discuss with him.......... ....hm...but this monstrous contradiction is the problem -humans being able for the most beautiful + for the most horrifying -so where does the truth lie ? socrates believed that all people are being born good - that's their nature -so how come there is so much pain and injustice in the world............run through some wonderful words recently " don't ask for whom the bell is ringing - it's ringing for you " humanism is a splendid ideal -but i wanna believe it's more than a great ideal- that's a cause worth fighting for.....hm..hope i won't wake up 50 years old one morning, to find out i've been terribly wrong.......good lord ! hope our planet will still exist by then...

Date: Fri Oct 12 11:05
Blaine (@work):

Howe, if OwOm decides to venture into the book publishing biz, there's this guy named Dan of Milk who'd do a great novel... based on his postings here at least. Either that or I'm gonna take up photography and learn his language. Anyone read the recent AP-wire article on Spiritualized that gives them credit for Mr. Prine's lyrics to "Sam Stone"? Any release date for the Rainer alb? Blaine

Date: Fri Oct 12 10:50
S semaJ (!?!?):

is it on the same record as the song that goes, "there's a hole in Daddy's arm where all the money goes..."? Must get that record. Prine lives here in my town, see him around occasionally, driving his truck, buying groceries. Never plays here. Well, that's not exactly true. Played here last week, at the new Country Music Hall of Fame. Tickets were 75 bucks. It was a benifit show for something, I forget what. I can't afford that. Last time he played here, it was nearly two years ago and it was on my wedding night. I had other plans. Sigh.

Date: Fri Oct 12 10:23
Mitch (how long exactly does this space allow you to type things in, I mean, could I just keep going on and on and writing this kind of babble, like, for example, I'm really tired and need to go to bed but I've spent the last two hours writing e-mails and listening to CDs...is it still going, should I stop, okay...I'll stop...I'm stopping...stopping now...):

Hi, James...yeah, same song as Patti mentioned. Good ol' John Prine.

Date: Fri Oct 12 10:00
James S (?!?!):

Is that more from John Prine, Mitch? I must hear this song.

Date: Fri Oct 12 04:25
dan (of milk) (danthephotographer):

on second reading my last message was prehaps a little strange sorry. darkroom chemicals do strange things to a mans brain. but still moving and a squirming. you should play the whole of bod dylans live at bodaka in the same lounge room style, i could add some lovley painon to blowin in the wind and you could get some good millage out of a croon. of course this being the world its that probably wouldnt be a good idea. trying hard as i fumble in the dark to make it back up the stairs, land lady catches me i whisper too slowly and the whole thing i thought ive forgotten how to say. I will stop my rubbish now and get back to my f stops.the offers still there old gelbo need some fun, i could be sunshine

Date: Fri Oct 12 04:15
feed me (nicehat):

love you all

Date: Fri Oct 12 01:22
fugazi (bbdocheers@slum.net):

one more on bonnie "prince" billy: "when we're inhuman, we're one with the birds". it's great a line but ears a bit disturbing these days (f14, f15, etc.) i tend to agree with di(screaming out for peace) - especially when it comes to them politicians (don't generalize, my dear - an inner voice mutters)

Date: Thu Oct 11 21:31
Mitch (tamper resistant tab):

"Well I went to the bank this morning and the cashier said to me/If you join the Christmas Club we'll give you ten of them flags for free/Well, I didn't mess around a bit, I took him up on what he said/And I stuck them stickers all over my car and one on my wife's forehead"

Date: Thu Oct 11 15:28
mike (sa-wa-ro):

Hey Patti - John Prine ....1971 - "Now Jesus don't like killin' no matter what the reason's for..." Now does that make me an old bugger or what!!

Date: Thu Oct 11 13:51
patti (k):

Decade has not left my c.d player since 9/11 I really should go out a buy a nice Radiohead record for a change of pace. I like hearing all of your favorites, its a good diversion from that little war they have going on. "your flag decal wont get you into heaven anymore, there already over crowded from their dirty little war" If you can name the song writer, I can tell you how old you are. Hope your all doing alright out there during these strange and kooky times. Howe played me some pieces of the Rainer sessions (the Farm) that he added some piano to and its really good. My knees buckled the first time and had my first good cry in ages.Ah to be unnumbed. Patti

Date: Thu Oct 11 13:25
james (ahgggg!):

damned refresh button! I must stop that.

Date: Thu Oct 11 13:24
James (*S_):

Greg Garing. I used to see him play at Tootsies Orchid Lounge in Nashville years ago. Spooky remarkable voice and a real feel for the old country (hank williams) thing, with a little Peter Murphy thrown in. I haven't seen him play in a while, not since he's rocked it up. Good stuff, gothic rock old time folk music. Guy's got a strange personality. Seems a bit off, which is always an advantage.

Date: Thu Oct 11 13:13
James (*S_):

Greg Garing. I used to see him play at Tootsies Orchid Lounge in Nashville years ago. Spooky remarkable voice and a real feel for the old country (hank williams) thing, with a little Peter Murphy thrown in. I haven't seen him play in a while, not since he's rocked it up. Good stuff, gothic rock old time folk music. Guy's got a strange personality. Seems a bit off, which is always an advantage.

Date: Thu Oct 11 12:42
Blaine (@work):

Amy Ray -- Stag. I've never cared for the Indigo Girls music enough to buy, but a friend suggested this and it is a nice surprise. Starts with a cool mutant bluegrass tune and has a bunch of great gtr playing all over. She def has some Neil in the shelf. Joan Jett even chimes in. ...and of course Marquee Moon from the Blow Up. ...also Jim Hall "Concierto" -- this seems to be based on the same Mexican symphony that Miles/Gil Evans borrowed Sketches of Spain off of. Jazz gtr pickers are not a fave, but this thing really breathes. ...also anyone hear of Greg Garing?? Blaine

Date: Thu Oct 11 12:33
jem (tengo algunos musculos...):

a question for howe and/or any tuc sons or daughters in the know - besides the occasional trackside solar cultural, do you ever perform around town (regularly scheduled or otherwise)? I tend to suspect I might be missing something good for lack of better connectivvvity

Date: Thu Oct 11 12:30
jem (tengo algunos musculos...):

a question for howe and/or any tuc sons or daughters in the know - besides the occasional trackside solar cultural, do you ever perform around town (regularly scheduled or otherwise)? I tend to suspect I might be missing something good for lack of better connectivvvity

Date: Thu Oct 11 12:02
caveman ((close-to-the-edge)):

Kuyss/Sky Valley...Charles Mingus/Mingus in Europe...Zappa/Make a Jazz Noise Here/Uncle Meat...Giant Sand/Glum/Chore...Meat Puppets/Mirage...Richard Buckner/Bloomed...Yes/Close to the Edge...Minutemen/Buzz or Howl Under the Influence of Heat...Bob Dylan/Bootleg Series Vol. 1-2-3...Neil Young/Tonight's the Night...etc...

Date: Thu Oct 11 11:40
james (!s):

despite rumors to the contrary, we were designed by John W Thomas of New Haven, Ohio. He is presently hiding in the bedroom closet at his ranch style home, trying to restrain a maniacal giggle. I don't mean to make light. People are frightening and mean. They are also beautiful and kind. They make love and war.

Date: Thu Oct 11 11:36
matt ($$$$$):

on the subject of Mr Will Oldham, surely it is bad planning on someones part for him to be doing a gig in London on the SAME night as the gig at the barbican? im going to see Howe, but i'd have loved to have seen both......

Date: Thu Oct 11 11:30
james (!s):

despite rumors to the contrary, we were designed by John W Thomas of New Haven, Ohio. He is presently hiding in the bedroom closet at his ranch style home, trying to restrain a maniacal giggle. I don't mean to make light. People are frightening and mean. They are also beautiful and kind. They make love and war.

Date: Thu Oct 11 10:46
di (screaming out for peace):

p l e a s e - MAKE LOVE NOT WAR............................................... p l ea s e - stop all this madness........................................... hm...bloody politicians- who needs THEM ANYWAY ???????????????????????????? damn..don't understand anything no more- what ar e we humans, afterall??what the hell is our problem- can't we just BE ???????????????????????????????????? sometimes i get the feeling we're all CARTOONS, part of some crazy SHOW- something like The Residents "freak show" maybe- only much, much worse.......... BUT if that's so, WHO THE HELL designed us, can anybody tell me ???????

Date: Thu Oct 11 10:22
Tony Mitterer (Subcommandante@gmx.at):

Chrisztine - I can just agree - wholeheartedly

Date: Thu Oct 11 09:58
chrisztine (&&&&&&&):

ohhhldham of course. there's no listening to music with words without listening to Mister Will Oldham ! again and again and again and just like all that wonderful old stuff sticking

Date: Thu Oct 11 09:49
james (%s):

we surely do have good taste. Speaking of Marquee Moon, go listen to Romance of Falling on Ramp and listen to that guitar playing. Reminds me of the excellent inspired playing on Marquee Moon. I sere would enjopy knowing Howe's top five at the moment. As for female artists, I have LONG been a Patti Smith freak. I love to hear Elizebeth Frazier (cocteau twins) sing. So much on our lists is older stuff. I got stuck on older stuff for a long time. Still love it, but I'm glad to be listening to new music again, AND LIKING IT. I have Tengo and Sand to thank for providing the spark and showing me that good records are still being put out, even if they are even more obscure and ignored than good records were in the past.

Date: Thu Oct 11 09:26
Mitch (the hatred of a few):

Plastic Ono Band, yes. And double yes.

Date: Thu Oct 11 09:00
john (You have left some of the entries blank which must be filled in.):

uhh, Captian Beefheart - Abba Zabba, Grateful Dead - Live Dead, Television - Marquee Moon, Kyuss - Blues for the Red Sun ( a different, louder, yet soothering kind of desert vibe ), Meat Puppets - Up on the Sun, Meat Puppets II, and Huevos, Widespread Panic - Space Wrangler, these spring to mind right now

Date: Thu Oct 11 08:42
poot ((procrastinating...still...always)):

Hey folks, it's good to see all your favorites. The mixture is good. It's comforting to realize music is out there people truly love which I haven't fallen into yet. I'm pretty sure I've heard some Pansonic and loved it. Dylan, Smith, Young, Eno, Ono, The Who. Incredible artists. For so much of this stuff I'm guessing if I had heard their music at certain times in my life they would be favorites. It gets tricky sometimes. All the stuff I really love fit perfectly into my life at sometime in the past, so listening to 'em really brings back the feelings I relate them to. I could see how Pavement, Jeff Buckley, or Dylan could be on top for me if they had come to me at specific times. Another thing I was thinking about was the lack of women artists on my favorites list. I'd like to think it's for the same reason as any of the others, that I just wasn't exposed to it. I love B. Raitt's "Give It Up," C. King's "Tapestry," and P. Smith's "Radio Ethopia." Sleater Kinney, PJ, the Shaggs. All fantastic, but I'm just not as attached to them for some reason. Maybe it's just personal taste and has nothing to do with gender. Maybe I can only relate with the guys on a personal level, which is sad to think about, and probably not true. Who knows...I'll think about it. Keep those favorites coming! ! ~ Poot (sorry for the length)

Date: Thu Oct 11 08:17
howe (reply):

dear milkman dan, if that is your real name..."some enjopyment " sounds like you could be on to something.

Date: Thu Oct 11 08:15
12 (12@s.com):

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Date: Thu Oct 11 05:50
trey (so long in the wasteland) (tharrison@eldoradoschools.org):

Hey pooter- The ones that comprise a third helix in my strands: "Earth Moon Sun"/Love and Rockets; "Doolittle"/Pixies; "Slanted and Enchanted"/Pavement; "Marquis Moon"/Television; "Double Nickels on the Dime"/Minutemen; "Plastic Ono Band"; "Dry"/PJ; "Songs for Woody"/Mark Alan; Center of the Universe, Glum, Chore, Sage Advice; Scroat Belly; and after 5-6 years and 3 worn out discs, "Grace" by Jeff Buckley. All of these elicit goose bumps on a regular basis.

Date: Thu Oct 11 04:51
dan (danthephotographer@hotmail.com):

Dear Mr Gelb, In light of recent events on this notice board i would like to put my self forward as a opening act for your forthcoming tour, i can play resonBLY with some akin most of your older material and being only 21 yrs old I feel that i conect with the younger audience. also i am bored and could do with some enjopyment you see every time i put up a notice in various guises nobody ever replys do i not know the secret hand shake is this once rambling jummble of fummble that was fun turnning in to a power ellite? some may argue that and i dont realy care much for those so you sere got into chesnutt and his old hotle going well found the song giant sand listened enjoyed and decided to inquire then found trickle down system not that anyone is reading and became an addict. so when galavanting around all over this town country please give me a bell and i will see saw a bird in a bush. lots of love fwdecklerk

Date: Thu Oct 11 04:42
terry (terry@peter.com):

love the record

Date: Wed Oct 10 21:53
Walter (oelianagi@hotmail.com):

Steve Wynn, that's Thursday the 11th @ The Horseshoe.

Date: Wed Oct 10 21:50
Walter (oelianagi@hotmail.com):

I'm going to see the Steve Wynn show tonight at the Horseshoe in Toronto.

Date: Wed Oct 10 21:31
Mitch (,):

Thanks, Howe.

Date: Wed Oct 10 21:28
Mitch (ME-VT-CT-MA-NY-DE-OR-IA 5$-MI 10$):

Hey, Poot, The Kink's "Arthur" stands up there too for me--that and The Who "Sell Out" are serious favorites. Robyn Hitchcock's "Eye" is one, and Roxy Music's "Country Life" and "Siren". Oh man, really, way too many when I start thinking about it. And that's just one strain--if I start digging into the country, punk, where-does-that-fit, ambient areas the list would be endless.

Date: Wed Oct 10 21:19
howe (you decide):

Subject: Fwd: FW: Malls on 10/31 hey... better safe than sorry. This was received by a cousin of Marty's in NY. Thought I should pass it on. " Hi All - I think you all know that I don't send out hoaxes and don't do the reactionary thing and send out anything that crosses my path. This one, however, is a friend of a friend and I've given it enough credibility in my mind that I'm writing it up and sending it out to all of you. My friend's friend was dating a guy from Afghanistan up until a month ago. She had a date with him around 9/6 and was stood up. She was understandably upset and went to his home to find it completely emptied. On 9/10, she received a letter from her boyfriend explaining that he wished he could tell her why he had left and that he was sorry it had to be like that. The part worth mentioning is that he BEGGED her not to get on any commercial airlines on 9/11 and to not to go any malls on Halloween. As soon as everything happened on the 11th, she called the FBI and has since turned over the letter. This is not an email that I've received and decided to pass on. This came from a phone conversation with a long-time friend of mine last night. I may be wrong, and I hope I am. However, with one of his warnings being correct and devastating, I'm not willing to take the chance on the second and wanted to make sure that people I cared about had the same information that I did." Lynn and Marty Roth lmroth@bellsouth.net

Date: Wed Oct 10 18:10
Mitch (u is & u is):

Hi Sarah...well, er, I do like living in Tucson, and on any given day I actually love it. With all that's going on elsewhere, it seems quite a nice place to be at the moment. Must admit I've had an itch to move somewhere else, just restlessness and, I guess, wanderlust. But I'm afraid the South and Southwest are deep in my marrow, so I probably won't stray far. So where you at, Sarah? What's it like there?

Date: Wed Oct 10 17:54
Harvieux (Harvieux@hotmail):

let me rephrase that as in hindsight it sounded(although not intended rude).Ive great Admiration of the raw talents you explore and deploy.Thanks for the advice although I cant play covers for beans.Just tryin to find the missing lock cause I believe I got a key that just may fit.As well The red record button is scary/yet holds immediate fruits to this labor of sound magnetization.Thanks howe....................................................

Date: Wed Oct 10 17:24
Harvieux (Harvieux@hotmail.com):

Start A cover band???Im not sure but that sounds insulting?The only dang reason I attempt to write is for the release and the hope of the capture.Not all art is great art but its still all you got to give.The best ones seem to happen in 10 minutes or less lyrics and all but there few and far between and not from lack of fostering.Ive tried youre theory of waitin till the buttons pushed in fact thats one thing about yerself that inspires how do you do it.A cover band haa..................

Date: Wed Oct 10 13:58
sammy (galveston o galveston):

Howe,when you don't do music what do you do? & If you couldn't do music(what I wish not) what would you do? (P.s:I like my english .)Thanks for Glum,I found it today,thanks for all the nexts too...Sa m my

Date: Wed Oct 10 13:51
chrisztine (on my way):

......Radian's s/t. pansonic's "Kulma" too......

Date: Wed Oct 10 13:45
chrisztine (near westbahnhof):

"Hisser". and N.P.Molvaer's "Khmer"....to name two of the few.

Date: Wed Oct 10 11:03
sarah (sarah@y):

Hey Mitch, I've a question for you...How do you like living in Tucson??

Date: Wed Oct 10 10:23
james (^,,s):

Dylan's Blonde on Blonde & Blood on the Tracks, Patti Smith's Horses, Yo La Tengo's I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One, Talking Heads Fear of Music, Eno's Here Come the Warm Jets, Iggy's Lust for Life, Dream Syndicate's Days of Wine & Roses, Neil Young's Tonight's the Night, to name a handful of the one's I keep coming back to without disappointment. Haven't heard the Frank Black, though I loved the Pixies. I haven't heard Glum. Makes me sad.

Date: Wed Oct 10 10:04
poot ((Do the standing still)):

Continuing with James and Fraks comment(s), Chore and Glum truly are both beautiful albums. It's always amazing to me when I find an album that gleans new meaning and appreciation with each listen. There are so many mediocre albums that get peddled on the strength of 2 or 3 songs, but so few that stand the test of multiple listenings. Personally, I've gone through 2 copies of Frank Black's "Teenager Of The Year," and his "Frank Black & The Catholics" album. They Might Be Giants "John Henry" is incredible, as is the Kink's "Arthur." Neutral Milk Hotel's masterpiece "Aeroplane Over The Sea" has been ingrained into my DNA. Even now every time I listen to one of these it's an exploration of something beautiful. Both Chore Of Enchantment, and Glum are some of my favorite expeditions. What other albums does this happen to for any of you? -Poot

Date: Wed Oct 10 08:00
dan (danthephotographer@hotmail.com):

so this is where we all are then, i spent the whole of last night in oxford u.k being introduced to a band called morphine also listened to some german live thing with giant sand and others allmost was almost the politicans wife quite a change go for days and days, brushing up on strays. hold your breath untill your head goes blue and you you, you will never escape the glove. p.s am not 50

Date: Wed Oct 10 07:53
dan (danthephotographer@hotmail.com):

hoping to see you soon dan.xx

Date: Wed Oct 10 03:48
oldsoul (champion@thewonderhorse.com):

originality is not the point... that's the ego at work, see... make connections laterally and find a place for yourself within the framework... you'll know when you've lit on a truth.. any truth. it sort of sings itself to you.. hope that's not too arty bleedin farty... hard to describe THAT moment.. something like what Howe was saying, a song that springs fully formed from the head of Zeus. Sometimes you stand in front of the canvas and your hands are frozen... you have to keep working through that, then jettison the spoils... it's worth the struggle. Trust it...

Date: Wed Oct 10 03:44
oldsoul (champion@thewonderhorse.com):

originality is not the point... that's the ego at work, see... make connections laterally and find a place for yourself within the framework... you'll know when you've lit on a truth.. any truth. it sort of sings itself to you.. hope that's not too arty bleedin farty... hard to describe THAT moment.. something like what Howe was saying, a song that springs fully formed from the head of Zeus. Sometimes you stand in front of the canvas and your hands are frozen... you have to keep working through that, then jettison the spoils... it's worth the struggle. Trust it...

Date: Tue Oct 9 23:40
howe (still up):

well sir, you need to redefine whatever you think a song is. let it be something else for a change. reinvention is a mother. i used to like it when i would smash 3 so called songs i thought i wrote, into one. and then there are times, especially when in severe reproach such as near sleep, when a pure form comes sailing in like you were the runway it was looking for. or how about daring yourself not to write anything right up until the moment you are faced with the red record button. that's always a fine jolt. next you got to the work on your delivery.......the more detailed the structure, the more offhanded the toss. am i being clear here. i am just up is all. you are already surrounded my enough songs that you refuse to hear as songs. take my advice, start a cover band. recycle. i am.-howe

Date: Tue Oct 9 22:08
Harvieux (Harvieux@hotmail):

Hey Howe any suggestions on writing more than two songs a month?and how do you know when to say when?I am truly struggling here.

Date: Tue Oct 9 21:59
# (*):

Hey, em...how'd the examine of your lifetime go? Did ya ace all that British lit plauge stuff? Hope it went well. Mitch

Date: Tue Oct 9 19:53
frak (()):

Chore is indeed a beautiful piece of work. Must admit it took a while to sink in, but once it did it sunk deep. Before that Glum was the standard by which I held all Giant Sand releases, now it's Chore. But this doesn't mean much, actually, because I imagine all the Sand LPs/CDs like a series of chapters in an ever-evolving book--so one being somewhat different in tone, mood, sound sculpting is always great. But what I want to know is why all you Tucson fellas are up at 2am? Avoiding the heat is all I can figure.

Date: Tue Oct 9 18:20
howe ()-=harumph=-():

hi james. thanks for such kind blabble. but i love that which is the record "chore...". it is just so reflective of how long it took to make it and the events that took place in that duration. . .which in itself had become a chore compared to all the records prior. the only other recording that had that kind of budget to even allow such an elongated period of work, was "glum"....and that record had the happenstance of the record company going out of business during the moment of its release. but "chore" still used up more calender time. a lot more. this next record wants to be freed of such dervish of endeaverish. and was done very quickly, mostly live in the studio, with an emphesis on seeing what magic john, joe and i still had going with each other. the playing is just that. play, not chore. anyway, i blather. it should be out in febuary now. been done since early summer. and some form of glum, now called "unsungglum", will be out here at the site and at live shows by halloween. thanks again for the kind words.-howe

Date: Tue Oct 9 14:46
james s (hummmm):

so when you (howe) say the the new GS album is "choreless" and, earlier, when you say it is "nothing like Chore", does that mean that you don't like Chore, want to distance yourself from it somehow, or are you just wanting something different for a different record? Chore is my favorite record and has been for several months. I'm near fanatical in my love of this record. My wife thinks I've lost it, tells me I should send you a love letter or something. I guess I am acting like a fan boy. Hell, I've never joined a fan list or added to any comment board... I'm a middle-aged music burn out, played in bands for 15 years, the punk rock thing mostly. I haven't been excited about a record on this level in a long time. I've grown ashamed of even calling myself a musician (living in Nashville can do that to you). You know how some of the best records don't hit you right away? Some of my favorite records have had to grow on me. A recent such record was Natural Bridge by Silver Jews. On first listening, I liked the idea of the thing, but it just seemed flat and uninteresting overall. Those songs had to wear groves in my brain before they started to give real pleasure. Other records, like Emmy Lou's Wrecking Ball for instance, knock me over on the first listen but then get dull to me after repeated listens. Chore knocked me over on the first listen and after MANY listens simply expanded, grows. Unlike a real op8 (drug) it doesn't lose its buzz with repeated usage, but the euphoria swells and swells with repeated use! I've collected 6 other GS records and enjoy them all but this record stands out even among that collection, and it's not just because our collective ears have changed over the years. It's just a great record from start to finish. I'm sure I will love the next record. I look forward with glee to hearing it. The Velvets took a big turn for each new record and each new record was great in it's own way. Not everyone can pull that off. Giant Sand has already proven they can. Sorry this is so long. Just wanted to say these things. I'll leave you folks alone now for a bit. I'm glad the new record is going to be after something different, really. I sure hope you don't dislike Chore, Howe.

Date: Tue Oct 9 13:49
sammy (pommelos):

This year ,I am going to do menos University for more Music. Putain Howe, c'est Cool!!

Date: Tue Oct 9 13:47
sammy (pommelos):

HWE(where's O?) are you? Everyday I am waiting for a Gelbshow in Paris.Thx for all, Sammy. =O£=

Date: Tue Oct 9 13:47
sammy (pommelos):

HWE are you? Everyday I am waiting for a Gelbshow in Paris.Thx for all, Sammy. =O£=

Date: Tue Oct 9 10:10
Mitch (wanderlust last thought):

Em...mornin'. Hey, weren't you planning on heading down this way? Graduation? After school? Just remembered something you wrote about visiting big T. If so, check The Grill, The Shelter, and maybe make your way south to Tumacori and wander the mission.

Date: Tue Oct 9 09:46
Mitch (bedtime):

Was up at 2am here in Tucson, but sitting far from my daily fix of Sand-comment. But that pervasive cool scooting across the desert was felt in my office, pushing through the crack in the window above my desk. First time in memory where the swamp cooler or a fan wasn't wanted. As for the the fall/Halloween light, seems like it snuck up over the weekend and presented itself in full melancholy on Monday. That kind of light, so strange--has a lonely, comforting feeling all wrapped up in one. Anyway, there's ghosts in the barrio, it's true. Howe probably knows a lot more about that than I'd ever pretend to do. My only experience was last year, took a walk near Jerry Lee Ho's market late one night and heard a shrill scream, something between a woman and an exotic bird. Literally gave me chills, hairs standing up, all that. Found out much later on about the wailing women haunting the streets. She existed in Santa Fe too, part of my childhood--they called her La Llorona, and she supposedly roamed the streets near the barrio carrying her dead infant(s). So happy All Souls to everyone. Think Howe's got a B-day creeping up like that shifting light and shadows. October is a good month.

Date: Tue Oct 9 07:52
++++++ (em++++++):

morning, all--I am off to finish the most boring, depressing exam of my lifetime..why is eighteenth century british literature all about death?? -all plagues and hell and that--you'd think if this was what they were surrounded by, literature could be some sort of escape from it..even when the writer is prosperous he seems obsessed with his demise...maybe I've just got a really morbid book editor--who knows?? just glad to get through with it and school all together---Yeah, Jennifer--Damn Sam was great-and sweet carolina.. Having fun with shiver still:)---hey-no more coke commercial with sexy grocerie store dad********************************************************************** (((emme)))take care sand people**************************************************

Date: Tue Oct 9 06:19
mr p (noidea@frog.moon):

threw these days of merryment and cheer i am a lonley sander in england. i just moved down here to Banbury by myself alone to study some photography not much in the way of music. maybee its hidden anybody who lives near oxford / banbury anywhere that is around say hello looking forward to the show, but now howe its time to go

Date: Tue Oct 9 05:26
dh ((secret)):

Someone mentioned Polly Harvey back there - saw here at Glasgow's Barrowlands two weeks ago - she was so great. Don't know if she'll be at the Barbican but who knows?

Date: Tue Oct 9 04:32
carol (vicoroad@hotmail.com):

At that hour, Howe, you're only likely to find us folks in Europe - or on the edge of the continent, being in Irlande as it were. You know, it's that damned Hallowe'en atmosphere - the dominion of All Souls. No matter how much of our innate superstition is lost - no matter how much we dam our intuition, it still filters through. Makes you think of the one's you've lost. Lingers through to Christmas - or maybe Thanksgiving over there. The dark edge that binds the light...

Date: Tue Oct 9 03:08
howe (up):

its 2 am. anybody up ? is this thing still on ? when does this thing have to sleep ? its uearthly cool here. halloween colors dip out of the low hangin sky top. bend the hot light off and instead provide the needed shadow land with dim lit rain. stunning and sad that the moodiness is stitched with a cnn soundtrack flickering in the darkening windows of the dotted neighborhoods. meantime, playing still with some of the rainer sessions, realizing its as hard to stop and break away from it now as it was to plunge ino it and sustain the missingess. we are a funny flop of form here on the planet. look what we do. get all riled up and wonder. get all goose fleshed and stirred. all fed up and under quenched. anybut got a light ? no, not a match. just something to shed on.

Date: Tue Oct 9 03:08
howe (up):

its 2 am. anybody up ? is this thing still on ? when does this thing have to sleep ? its uearthly cool here. halloween colors dip out of the low hangin sky top. bend the hot light off and instead provide the needed shadow land with dim lit rain. stunning and sad that the moodiness is stitched with a cnn soundtrack flickering in the darkening windows of the dotted neighborhoods. meantime, playing still with some of the rainer sessions, realizing its as hard to stop and break away from it now as it was to plunge ino it and sustain the missingess. we are a funny flop of form here on the planet. look what we do. get all riled up and wonder. get all goose fleshed and stirred. all fed up and under quenched. anybut got a light ? no, not a match. just something to shed on.

Date: Mon Oct 8 20:03
restless (but no longer aimless):

Jennifer and Caveman-magnetic contributions, my compass thanks you so much!

Date: Mon Oct 8 18:28
Tom (??):

I really hope to meet you in person in Brussels. I know some nice talking and drinking places around there.

Date: Mon Oct 8 18:22
Tom (....):

We will be as well as we can be Howe

Date: Mon Oct 8 17:19
howe (:):

kevin salm managed to re record shiver without me getting to warn him about the guitar tuning. a brave man. a relentless task. ....any other questions ? ok then, be well.

Date: Mon Oct 8 17:12
Jennifer (NYC):

Forgive me, it's TraCKS In Wax. That record store has been around for at least 20 years in Phoenix. There are many ways to play off those words.... Em... yes, I saw Elton John at the Ryan Adams show. They played Rocket Man. I mostly enjoyed his acoustic set of songs from the first album (sorry everyone, we're way off topic).

Date: Mon Oct 8 16:09
::::::::::::::::::::J:::::::::::::::::::::::: (@@@@@would'pile@@@@@@):

em, em, em, be still. Stainers hang in there, the adventure is about to begin. 19 step babyfather. J. P.S. hang in ther w/chordage em, it'll come natural later.(~)

Date: Mon Oct 8 15:48
em (...and em):

(((Trax in Wax??? Not Wax Trax??? hmm-if it is Trax in Wax it is a rip-off of Wax-Trax and I am outraged..Hi Jennifer--you were @ The concert in which Elton John oddly slipped in and then out too??? ak-I couldn't get back into the friggin hall when it happened--did you see it all?? Was not Touch, Feel and Lose even far greater than the album version--and 'To Be Young?? well I'm off***(((emme)))shivering away on my wee guitar tonight(hey! and my fingers aren't getting all twisty and dis-jointed!! It's a victory!!!:)))) *************************************************************************** ***************************************************************************

Date: Mon Oct 8 15:37
Jennifer (NYC):

Restless.....Phoenix/Tempe record stores... Eastside Records (Ash & University, Tempe), Stinkweeds (Dorsey & Apache, Tempe), Trax In Wax (Central & Highland, Phoenix). As far as a good bar, behind Eastside Records (1 block south) is Casey Moore's, haunted old house/pub. Nice people. Enjoy! Hey, Em... I went to the Ryan Adams show on Wednesday in NYC too.

Date: Mon Oct 8 13:35
caveman ((notinthecavetoday)):

Hey Restless.....................For good local live music in Tempe, try Long Wong's. Wong's has a great history....................Meat Puppets, Gin Blossoms, etc.............some of PHX's best bands got their start there. Zia records is a good place to start for you music shopping (5 or so in the area), but there are some good mom & pop record stores also. Good Luck!

Date: Mon Oct 8 11:36
chrisztine (deplaced):

jaah, murky red dew, much appreciated, always, and music arcade, too, and wolfy of course, and catapult, and can´t find love maybe

Date: Mon Oct 8 11:05
richie (:)):

thanks em/howe. Much appreciated

Date: Mon Oct 8 10:48
Tommy Gailer (tgailer@yahoo.de):

Yeah, i nearly broke my fingers, tryin`to play "Shiver" on F instead of a tuned down G. Howe,at your next solo break here in Germany i will take my digi-camera with me and will film any move of your fingers...so i can play that on my big screen in slow mo.

Date: Mon Oct 8 10:18
sarah (sarah@y):

Any word on the New Year's barrio fiesta that was mentioned awhile back? Trying to plan ahead...

Date: Mon Oct 8 07:51
***em (mmm***):

my oh my, hop-a-long howe, what would I ever do without you??thanks-I shal and will completley;)

Date: Sun Oct 7 20:33
hop-a-long (howe):

em...by crikey....tune your guitar a whole step (2 frets worth) down....then just relax and play the song with the first chord in the 'g' position....before you hurtyourself

Date: Sun Oct 7 20:03
Mitch (waterspout):

Howe, I like the Beckett-ish idea for London. Perhaps you could incorporate his "Endgame" while playing cards on stage, seems somehow appropriate. Or hows about incorporating yourself fully into the sets of the others who are performing--doing so with interpretative dance: Kurt Wagner does "All Smiles & Mariachi", while Howe Gelb silently yet fluidly gesticulates "All Smiles & Mariachi". Just a thought. On the other hand, I'd beam from one end to the other knowing "Murky Red Dew" was dug from the attic.

Date: Sun Oct 7 17:03
m (***):

some sort of hidden clue to the forever sought out meaning of life on earth, perhaps?? right there on the comments page???

Date: Sun Oct 7 16:59
*** *** (m):

oh and I'm liking howe's pictures:::is there a hidden message behind them?

Date: Sun Oct 7 16:55
****************************************** (em********* ********):

hi richie~~~I'm not 100% sure since it's by way of my not so perfect ears and not so perfect chord knowledge but I figure(anyone correct me ifi'mwrong): (capo fifth or sixth) C, G, A minor, A minor C, G, A minor, A minor F, C, D minor, D minor F, C, D minor, D minor and then chorus:: C, C, F, G C, C, F, G to C to E 7th(not sure about the E 7th but it seems to work though not perfectly) to A minor ...etc, etc... of course one guitar picks the top string twice to each chord before strumming it::: again yes please to any corrections--and lemme know which fret fo rthe capo and--there SHOULD be a Giant Sand tab page--dunno why there's not(((emme))) long enough for ya?:)

Date: Sun Oct 7 15:52
restless (ummmm):

So I'm leaving my beautiful city by the bay to come down Phoenix way and was wondering if I may (ooo oo look I rhymed!) enlist some local expertise. Where would one fresh import go in outer Phoenix/Tempe area for A)well-stocked record stores B)a good pint C)a good place to watch a good band while drinking the good pint. It seems there are some AZ fellers in here, and while Tuscon is a good bit away from the clottage of her capital I was hoping you might be able to help a little. I'm grateful for any nudges you could offer...hell, I might even show up on yer doorstep Howe...all dehydrated and the like...thanks a million sandies!

Date: Sun Oct 7 15:50
richie (:-():

real sorry to here kristen can't make it, polly would be more than welcome though. hey em what are the chords for shiver and is there any tab around, i can't find any !! take care

Date: Sun Oct 7 15:31
******** ********* ********** (em):

stupid question stupid question stupid question here: Is 'shiver' played with the capo on the fifth or sixth fret??? can't figure it:) have a wonderous evening all:: (((emme)))

Date: Sun Oct 7 14:47
desert splatt (:o)):

Howe were is the space still available referenced in the song. Tell me so I can escape the cancer of civilization.

Date: Sun Oct 7 14:25
Nuno (...):

sounds good, howe, even without kristen... any advances on those "unannounced" friends" who will be joining you on the 3rd?... polly, maybe?

Date: Sun Oct 7 13:47
d (.........//.......):

well howe, if it's requests your after, there aint nothing better than a quiet soft rendition of 'explore you', its a song I always ask for when your playing Ireland, whelans...dolans warehouse, a song that gets me everytime. But hey no pressure though ok...ok....ok howe is that ok with you....eh? good!! l.o.l.

Date: Sun Oct 7 13:39
archivist (archive@giantsand.com):

Thing like that! Thing like that!! and Rainer's "Life is Fine"!

Date: Sun Oct 7 13:35
h (..):

...we loves her

Date: Sun Oct 7 13:33
h (.):

well sir.............kristen can't make the show due to the deletion of too many overseas flights that would have allowed her to maintain her schedual back here with family and work.......sadly.......but i have heard from a few friends who plan to gather unannounced that evening, and it appears to be a full cluster no matter how you bust er.....we will greatly miss kristen and wish her the best until next time.....

Date: Sun Oct 7 13:20
Nuno (with the flu):

a chat would be great... sprinkled with songs... which reminds, howe, why isn't ms hirsh coming anymore? she'll be truly missed!

Date: Sun Oct 7 12:43
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Date: Sun Oct 7 12:42
howe (:(:():):

just trying to decorate the site a bit....

Date: Sun Oct 7 12:40
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Date: Sun Oct 7 12:38
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Date: Sun Oct 7 12:37
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Date: Sun Oct 7 12:34
howe (] 0Oo{}oO0 [):

couldn't we all just have a chat instead ? dispense with the given slip of song ? begat the sonically challenged olympics then and there ? poker perhaps, with one eyed jacks wild ? maybe sub-contract our parts ? ...just have a nice little chat. becket style.

Date: Sun Oct 7 12:19
Rob Stanier (Robtstanier@aol.com):

Howe ill be at the Leicester gig on the 31st. Would love to hear Warm Storm and Always Horses Coming and Loretta but ill make do with whatever you decide. Looking forward to witnessing the Sand for the first time. Thanks to the Magic Teapot for his help.Sleep well all. Rob, Wife and unborn, only five weeks to go.

Date: Sun Oct 7 11:08
chrisztine (in vienna):

a waltz to end the day...

Date: Sun Oct 7 04:31
Insider-Sand (out there):

Okay what about Valley of Rain and All Done In for nostalgic purpose? And 'The Beat Goes On' from the forthcoming covers record? Actual Desert Rose? The list is endless isn't it? How about a setlist in reverse chrolongical order starting with something off Lull and moving back through Chore, gliding into Glum delving back to Swerve and chrashing into Valley of Rain etc. etc.

Date: Sun Oct 7 04:00
matt (-:maybe :-):

any chance of playin 'Slide away' ?!?! i can just never get enough of that song.

Date: Sun Oct 7 03:49
Adrian ((London)):

Song requests? How about Yer Ropes, Cracklin' Water, Bottom Line Man and Wonder? I'm sure I'll think of less obvious requests as the day unfurls...

Date: Sat Oct 6 20:15
Tom ((( again ))):

Maybe that's practically too complicated. Cracklin' Water, would be nice. You could ask a local girl to do second voice.?!("?")

Date: Sat Oct 6 20:10
Tom ((only asking)):

Howe, when you're in Brussels, and in the neigbourhood of Jim White, David Eugene Edwards and Kinky Friedman : JAM ! Please....

Date: Sat Oct 6 17:35
Mitch (return-ed from hazy L.A.-zy):

Really wish I could attended the London show, but alas...still, if I could offer requests it'd be two dealing with liquidness: "Was Is A Big Word" and "Cracklin' Water." But I'll echo what's come before, whatever is done will no doubt be just right. Mitch

Date: Sat Oct 6 16:43
Nuno ((in lisbon)):

mmmmm, st conformity and neon filler on the piano... and searchlight with john on drums would be greatly appreciated... howe(ver), play what you feel like, something tells me it'll be special...

Date: Sat Oct 6 10:53
Richie ((())):

hi howe I'd love to hear your version of iron man, but whatever, watching and listening to you play is treat, just have fun

Date: Sat Oct 6 10:38
howe ([]o[]):

hello folks. the new rainer record is just about assembled. a stunner. the new giant sand record is now mastered. sounds choreless. the new bootleg record ( a version of glum ) is at the factory being pressed. an now its time to focus on the upcoming run that'l end with the london barbican. so ...is there any thing special you all might want to hear that night ?

Date: Sat Oct 6 10:38
howe ([]o[]):

hello folks. the new rainer record is just about assembled. a stunner. the new giant sand record is now mastered. sounds choreless. the new bootleg record ( a version of glum ) is at the factory being pressed. an now its time to focus on the upcoming run that'l end with the london barbican. so ...is there any thing special you all might want to hear that night ?

Date: Sat Oct 6 05:25
d (,):

tok this is getting outa hand sandies, dont ya think?

Date: Fri Oct 5 16:52
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ((em)):

oh my! now I feel so...dirty::

Date: Fri Oct 5 15:29
james (zzzz):

there was/is a blowfly. Described on Amazon as "the GODFATHER of porno-funk." I've never heard or heard of it, just did a little investigatin' to kill time. Those song titles are sure nassy.

Date: Fri Oct 5 15:05
********** (em):

how'd you get blowfly from soulfly?? How does the mind go from "soul" to "blow" pretty funny. I like that--blowfly--is there an actual blowfly?? Oh right-question--I recently heard the song "there is no Arizona" by Jamie O'Neal--who is this person?? her album's called "shiver"??? anyone know anything aboutthis/her?

Date: Fri Oct 5 14:15
john ((duh!)):

right you are Caveman. the old noggin's not what it used to be, apparently. Ryan/Bryan, Max/Felix, Soul/Blow, I used to find it amusing when my mother used to do things like this . . .

Date: Fri Oct 5 12:58
james (irony):

I didn't see the tribute, or even know about it. Hate TV. Don't have one. Though I would wish I could have seen Lou Reed doing Jealous Guy. Speaking of irony, I think it's ironic that while we are giving tribute to Lennon, Mr. Ashcroft is fighting to get congressional and public approval for the kind of "law enforcement" that victimized Lennon and so many others during the Hoover days. I am as afraid of terrorism as anyone, and would like to see it stopped before it starts, but these attempted bills are scaring me too. Hell, I'm even afraid to send this comment. Well, here goes...

Date: Fri Oct 5 12:24
~~~emm (~~~):

hmm julian seems to always pop up in interesting places..duets and soundtracks and such and the annoying song about the pebble the always play at rite aid. alot of things seem to have been taken out of context during the various tribute things..i thought the use of working class hero was odd too and have you all seen wag the dog??? wouldn't you say the ending to the celebrity tribute thing was alittle ironic then? oh my well I've got an actual question to ask but shal bother with it later on--you're not thru with emme***

Date: Fri Oct 5 11:12
caveman(not@home) ( ):

Wow I haven't heard about that duet............Interesting. But, that would be Max and his new band is Soulfly. Peace

Date: Fri Oct 5 10:17
Blaine (@work):

One comment on the Come Together show: Did anyone else find it ironic that they played a bite of Working Class Hero while showing images of the firefighters and emergency workers? The rescue workers certainly are heros, but it would seem the producers took the song's message and lyrics out of context. Blaine

Date: Fri Oct 5 09:37
john (---):

yeah, just kidding about (B)Ryan Adams, made a mistake when I read em's message then I passed it on. About Julian, the last thing I heard about him was that he had done a dut or cowrote a song with Felix Cavalera (sp?) of South American metal bands Sepultura and Blowfly. Apperently they met, were talking and realized that both of their father's were murdered, and made some music together on that theme. I think it's on the new Blowfly album. + + + Bill Monroe _IS_ the father of speed metal !!! + + +

Date: Fri Oct 5 06:02
Gary Dickson (gary"evonewc.freeserve.co.uk):

To Howe and the boys, don't know if you read this. If you do, just to say I think you're great (your music, that is - obviously I don't know you as people and you could be the most odious people on the face of the planet!) Looking forward to seeing you when you play in Newcastle, England. If you don't read this, well, then a hello and how are you to the people who do! Bye now Gary

Date: Fri Oct 5 00:08
Anita P. (Re: Inner Flame 2001):

Hello Patti, thanks for letting me know.

Date: Thu Oct 4 19:50
emmmmmmm ((alright, alright--I'm home sick today so am entitled))):

thanks tommmm glad to know I ammm serving my divine purpose on this planet today***On the Lennon thing--yeah-no Julian, eh? a couple years ago his album "photograph smile" suprised me--it was an album very aware of the world around-less dreamy about our state and more like if we don't wake up soon, it shal slap us in the face..he should have been @ the tribute especially now. Also lou reed did jelous guy?? was that not cool? wish i saw it--and steve buscemi& dustin hoffman, eh? well that's not the last of me... ******************************************** *********************************************

Date: Thu Oct 4 18:34
Tom ((not knowing anything)):

I listen to Rainer almost every day , I think Patti's wise, and I'm glad that there's some Emmmm's around

Date: Thu Oct 4 17:20
patti (k):

Anita, I think Howe will be out of town in mid November (Howe?) so more than likey there wont be any shows but rumor has it that the INNER FLAME concert from last year with Giantsand and friends might be available on c'd for a few lucky people. (Jim?) Also, we will have some copies of the final mix of the FARM.(Howe?)We'll have our annual bon fire with lots of wine on his day and I will focus my attention on Lily's 6th birthday which is the day befor the anniversary. She's my little 11-11 girl. Emme, I drove accross town to watch the Lennon show on cable, only to learn that the damn thing was on network t.v as well. I wasnt crazy about it.... where was Julian? If their so about love and peace where was the first born son? Only one moment stands out in my head and that was Keven Spacey doing Mind games. Who woulda thunk it? Patti

Date: Thu Oct 4 17:13
EM ((***)))))))))):

yes, well when I partake in something I commit fully... my oh my I miss reading howe's writing on the page. I suppose I shal shut up now..unless that is I feel my comment is needed.:( ((( emme:( )))

Date: Thu Oct 4 16:44
Hammershaug again (bhammershaug@mac.com):

Just scrolled down the page - it seems different these days.... em em...

Date: Thu Oct 4 16:41
Bjorn Hammershaug (bhammershaug@mac.com):

Hi all, a little ad for our site here, but check out my reviews of M. Ward and Friends of Dean.. on groove.no right now if you please. Even better if you speak norwegian. bye.

Date: Thu Oct 4 09:52
em (m***):

guess you are luckier than I, James--but it was really great(too many people and all)-Elton JOhn showed up which was odd--I kept hoping Emmylou or Gillian Welch would(somehow) but nope..well that is all. very genius and very great. plenty of spoiled whiny rock star superstar stuff along with gram parsons type stuff. now when is that damn howe coming here, damnit? ! ******************************************************and did anyone see Come Together on tv??(to go off-subject even further)

Date: Thu Oct 4 09:31
james (*!?):

that would be Ryan. Used to be in Whiskeytown.

Date: Thu Oct 4 09:14
john (:":":":":":":":":):

is that ryan or Bryan Adams?

Date: Wed Oct 3 17:31
KF (pdx):

check out The Standard if they come to your town. on u.s. tour now. like an archers/grandaddy explosion......from pdx.

Date: Wed Oct 3 11:38
james s (whiskeygonefromtown):

About a year ago, Ryan Adams was living here in Nashville and would sometimes play little uncrowded shows. Very nice. In fact, I saw him nearly clear the room at a couple of shows because he was doing the rock thing, loud, snotty-nosed sloppy rock. I loved that stuff myself. I wish he'd put that on one of his new records. He was also around for little surprise guest spots with other artists. Saw him show up and play with Alejandro Escovedo once. He doesn't live here anymore. The last couple of times he's played here, I haven't even been able to get in. Ahh, fame.

Date: Wed Oct 3 10:47
emme (******):

happy wednesday all. lucky lucky me-I'm going to the ryan Adams concert toninght where I will contemplate my giant sand Haiku...hum...

Date: Wed Oct 3 10:06
From Somewhere Less.... (wibble):

Well one zine said of Hawksley Workman "Pedalling his own peculiar brand of dishevelled glamour, theatre and tap dancing, Hawksley Workman is a born star waiting to explode inside the podgy potbelly of pop. The Canadian born singer-songwriter-dancer swindles all the fun bits of pop past and swirls them all up in his own wickedly weird way. Swapping Bowie’s make-up for cheap suits, outsmarting the razor blade wit of The Divine Comedy and making Ben Folds weep into his piano." There's two albums out there, see www.loosemusic.com or www.hawksleyworkman.com

Date: Wed Oct 3 09:55
Anita Park (couldbetravelling@abroad.com):

Anybody know if there will be a Rainer memorial show this year in Tucson? Patti?

Date: Wed Oct 3 09:04
Tom (tom.alban@eudoramail.com):

I should point out that my last post was an attempt to describe Hawksley Workman.

Date: Wed Oct 3 09:02
Tom (tom.alban@eudoramail.com):

Difficult to describe. One man with virtuoso, energetic, staccato guitar...singing style over-the-top, taut, angsty; trouser flies safetypinned together...very urban/NY (pre the towers) sort of humour...Well worth seeing if you get the chance.

Date: Tue Oct 2 21:59
james s (esquires):

just saw a fun show. Gillian Welch and David Rawling's side project, the Esquires. Gillian plays the bass and sings backup and david plays the telecaster and sings. A couple of good messy Neil covers and a bunch of hardcore rockabilly numbers that were about as spooky as the Cramps. Fun stuff. Few people around here know WHO the Esquires are and so it's fun to be able to see these guys play a small room (Radio Cafe tonight). Billed as "Gillian Welch", they sell out most any place in town. It's also good to see Gillian in her rock & roll cloths, tonight in old jeans and white t shirt, hair hanging plain and untouched; she looked like Patti Smith (about 75) and not like a mountain girl coming out of a primitive baptist church. Their new record ( as Gillian Welch and David Rawlings) has some really good stuff on it, more stripped down than even the previous two. Check it out if you haven't already.

Date: Tue Oct 2 13:16
Blaine (@work):

Chris Mills has played here a few times in duo settings (once on Tele w/ a drummer and another time w/Deanna Varagonna from Lambchop -- quieter) and he is very good. Good raw-nerve songs, maybe a cousin of R.Buckner. Workman had a short, but intriguing writeup in Mojo mag. The writer gushed that he was nearly perfect. Any elaboration on him, Tom? Blaine

Date: Tue Oct 2 12:51
Tom (tom.alban@eudoramail.com):

Glad to see James namechecking Hawksley Workman. Saw him supporting (and playing with) Chris Mills a few months ago and Chris Mills admitted that Hawksley outplayed him. A real original.

Date: Tue Oct 2 12:40
Tom (tom.alban@eudoramail.com):

Come in a bit late but here are my suggestions for good music that other people haven't mentioned - Cassandra Wilson (New Moon Daughter, Blue Light 'Til Dawn), Emmylou's 'Wrecking Ball' (definitely one for the desert island), and getting further out, Shostakovitch's 10th (covers a huge range of emotions,Kronos Quartet's 'Released'. On the international front I've just heard a storming track from Colombian salsera Yolanda Rayo (going to have to get her album) and the samples I've heard so far from Lila Downs' 'La Linea' sound wonderful.

Date: Tue Oct 2 10:46
Adrian (oops):

That's "latest" issue not "lastest" - wretched typos trying to make me give up making a zine...

Date: Tue Oct 2 10:44
Adrian (underthesurface@hotmail.com):

M Ward plays London 100 Club on Tue 13 Nov - see www.loosemusic.com And if anyone still wants to purchase the lastest issue of my zine (UnderTheSurface) to read a great six-page interview with Mr. Ward drop me an e-mail.

Date: Tue Oct 2 10:43
mike (tucked up snug at home):

Matt is in the UK between the 9th and 15th of November - no confirmed details of shows yet.....I'll post it up as soon as I hear.

Date: Tue Oct 2 06:28
fred ocazaki (Leading):

Does anyone know if Matt Ward is playing in the UK? I'd go anywhere to see him but perhaps not France.

Date: Mon Oct 1 18:05
em (***):

yeah-I'd like to see that.

Date: Mon Oct 1 15:55
james s (haiku):

Ha! Thanks for the comment, Em. The haiku thing was on my mind because the wife and I were laughing about the news that Steve Earle has a book of Haiku about to be published. Steve Earle, renaissance man. He's here in Nashville penning novels, plays, and, yes, a book of haiku. Where's Howe's book of Haiku? Anyway.

Date: Mon Oct 1 15:21
em (~~~):

ooh I like the eyebrow haiku, james:)

Date: Mon Oct 1 15:18
caveman(nothome) (justgoforit99@hotmail.com):

Listened to Lull at a friends house this weekend, great stuff. Is a gig The Red Room happening anytime soon?

Date: Mon Oct 1 15:17
d (oops...):

thank you.

Date: Mon Oct 1 15:17
d (no thanks....):

sorry sandies yes I did christen you all sandies if you scroll back a while.... anyway sorry about that, I got induced by all the mad ness of the previous hats, mushrooms, stetson fulled bravado comment. Now there you have it!

Date: Mon Oct 1 15:15
d (what?):

the following comment is of an adult nature please refrain from looking at it.

Date: Mon Oct 1 12:09
james s (hee hee):

shucks, it didn't keep my line breaks. Oh well. 17 syllables, right?

Date: Mon Oct 1 11:53
james s (again):

B string out of tune Sinister eyebrows are raised as the train blows past

Date: Mon Oct 1 11:29
Rob Stanier (Robtstanier@aol.com):

Adrian cheers for the tip.

Date: Mon Oct 1 11:16
em (me):

you first.

Date: Mon Oct 1 11:09
James S (Gnashville):

I think that we should each compose and post a Giant Sand or Howe related Haiku to pull this thing back into focus.

Date: Mon Oct 1 10:43
em (~~~~~~~~~~~~~~):

so whatever happened to giant Sand/HOwe/ coherentness??

Date: Sun Sep 30 20:22
Chris (G):

for the record I still stand by my earlier statement. Always have and always will.

Date: Sun Sep 30 16:42
Harley Cox (nosrale@hotmail.com):

Check out my friends' website- http://www.rexella.com/ -their music kicks ass.

Date: Sun Sep 30 14:44
Adrian (somewhere):

Rob, e-mail the gig promoter in Leicester at magic_teapot@yahoo.com or try ticketweb.com

Date: Sun Sep 30 12:16
Rob Stanier (Robtstanier@aol.com):

Forget all this talk of hats and get your cyber selves over to WWW.THEUNSPEAKABLETURKS.COM its nothing sinister just our bands website. Influences, the Sand of course amongst many others and you can also do things to our heads on the words and pictures page. Basic but you can download some of our tracks and contact us for free cds. Keep your heads together with this hat malarkey. Does anybody know where I can get tickets for the Giant Sand gig at Leicester Arts Centre UK in October? Hats O

Date: Sat Sep 29 22:57
JohnC (not Convertino) (sunstroke342@hotmail.com):

That's pretty funny, Frak.

Date: Sat Sep 29 22:30
frak (()):

Stupid hippie fun? Think you got me mixed up with someone else, Chris. Tell ya what though, I'll take two hats--one for me to wear, and one to shove up your ass! Just playin'.

Date: Sat Sep 29 22:14
em ((((huh?)))):

I don't know what's going on here but I LIKE IT!!!:)

Date: Sat Sep 29 21:54
Chris (G):

Well, Frak, you'll have to order eight hats first!! Yesirree, that's the deal. Then you may have your very stupid hippie fun!

Date: Sat Sep 29 20:52
james s (gnashville):

hats & publicists.

Date: Sat Sep 29 14:57
frak (()):

What's all this about then? Hats and boa trips, or boat rips? You people have gone looney. Can I have a boa and a mushroom too?

Date: Sat Sep 29 14:01
Chris (G):

thankyou, my good man--I can't wait

Date: Sat Sep 29 13:37
! (-):

boatripsnmushroomsforall

Date: Fri Sep 28 19:55
Chris (G):

!

Date: Fri Sep 28 19:24
Mitch (f5 f8):

Geez, thanks.

Date: Fri Sep 28 18:43
Chris (G):

HATS!!!!!!

Date: Fri Sep 28 18:42
Chris (ChrisG@yahoo.com):

you may have BOTH, my friend!!! Hats for one and all!---

Date: Fri Sep 28 18:00
Mitch (alone for the week, a bit aimless but doing just fine):

Thanks, Chris. Don't mean to take advantage of your generous offering...but can mine be a Stetson resistol from Christian Dry Goods in Matador, Texas? Otherwise, just a baseball cap, neutral colored. Whatever you think, really.

Date: Fri Sep 28 17:20
Chris (chrisG@yahoo.com):

Hats for everyone!

Date: Fri Sep 28 16:08
James S (jscarbrough@mindspring.com):

just joined the tree as a leaf, at least until I can get a burner. Can't wait to see how this thing works. Are the older SM titles still available or is each release like a breeze that blows through the tree never to return again? I wish the out of print (or so it seems) OP8 record could go through this channel. Still haven't heard Lull, still haven't heard the new Dylan. Some of you have given me some thoughts on Lull on the email list - thanks. Someone wrote back aways on this here comments board that GS should do some more US shows, and bring it EAST and I second that motion. My wife got to see Calexico a few years back here in Nashville at a little place called the Sutler, back before they were big stars. Sorry I missed that. Bring it on over this way, guys, once in a while. Don't be annoyed by these requests Howe. Hell, we just want to see ya play.

Date: Fri Sep 28 13:54
d (.....):

what in th hell?

Date: Fri Sep 28 11:30
Poot (Yup/Nope):

After 6ish years of off/on Sandom, . I couI still haven't had the chance to witness the livenessld use my northeast isolation as an excuse (Montpelier, VT), so I'm going to. My sister had a copy of Sweet Relief that she got from her friend. I made a copy of her copy, and was blown away by 3rd generation quality Giant Sand. Found a used copy of Glum, wore it out in a year, and couldn't find another copy (at 16, I had limited resources.) Never really looked into past albums for whatever reason, so the Sand leaked from my head. A couple years later, I opened up a package at record store I worked at. In it was a promo copy of Hisser "From Giant Sand singer HOWE GELB", the press sheet explained. Me-"Giant... Oh yeah, H#!! yeah!" Since then it has been full throttle Sand. Random store playings of past/present Sand/Gelb in the music store (where I still work) have customers wondering if there was a Tom Waits/Neil Young/Violent Femmes album that they could have missed. Couple persons knew, and were fans. Was I going anywhere with this? ... I guess not. I am really, really, really looking forward to Unsunglum. Really, really.

Date: Thu Sep 27 12:19
archivist (archive@giantsand.com):

Well, I agree... Lets hope that we can get some of these great recordings out to you folks.. Perhaps the April show with PJ Harvey and all can be put out via the Sandman Series.. We did broadcast the show and copies of the broadcast should be around. Same goes for the Inner Flame concert which was broadcast as well. I have been working on a limited edition official release from that show (just a portion of it) - hopefully as promised many months ago it will all come together in the coming weeks. I did spend a bunch of time helping Howe with the re-release of Glum and describe some of that task in the Archive section on this site. It is gonna be a good one! Keep your spirits up~!

Date: Thu Sep 27 09:51
mike (@work):

Jim Blackwood from KXCI did indeed do a fine recording of said Solar show. It was a great gig - I really wish I'd been there.....and hopefully (at a later date) we can all share in the experience.

Date: Thu Sep 27 09:08
Blaine (@work on the Greek alphabet):

BD--that's right, I forgot Man or Astroman were headliners in CHI. Odd mix of crowds --I saw 'em once and they were funny and entertaining, but I guess they trot out the same pony. GS gigs seem to need a place to settle and get comfortable, something like the BBQ alb at times (anyone ever see Souled American? they know the vibe). But a band's personality can def change from one night to the next -- that's the beauty of it sometimes. FYI -- Neil was on that telethon last Friday. No doubt someone taped it. Speaking of recording, does one exist of the Solar Culure gig Mitch describes? Sounds varied and cool --maybe a future bud for the tree? Blaine